Zzr600 - good sport-tourer? Update: Purchased '06 Multistrada

[jaha2000]

mmmmm Ohlins

I would say the stuff for duc is middle of the road in the fork department. The rear is a TTX, thats the real deal no faking it.

 

[soccerballtux]

definitely a hayabusa.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I think the Ohlins "upgrade" on the Ducati setup is silly. In this example, the $2000 difference in msrp between the standard and S, Ducati literally passes all the cost onto the buyer. You could sell the stock Showa forks and Sachs shock on eBay that came with the standard model and then buy "real" aftermarket Ohlins while staying within the cost difference of OEM. The set you buy would be sprung and valved for your weight and riding type as well. I guess you could also apply the same idea to the stock components. Take the $2000 you saved, pocket $1000 and revalve/spring the stock stuff for $1000.

Depends on the bike. I'm sure the stuff on the 1198 S is pretty damned good. The S models actually hold their value better so if you buy a non-S model and drop a few grand into suspension upgrades you're still stuck with the value of that model. I still see Monster S4RS's selling for almost $10k and they've been out of production for almost 5 years now.

 

[kamikazekyle]

Regarding the Ohlins, I know they were purchased aftermarket new and installed by the dealer, having the same controls and such that are on the S model as far as I'm aware. As to whether they differ internally from the OEM Ohlins, I dunno 😛 To me it doesn't really matter all that much on this purchase as I highly doubt I would be pushing the suspension to its limits outside of a track or some offroad. And I'm sure that it'll be a good while before my skills are sufficent enough to reach those limits anyway. So whether or not they'll be useful to me is probably not very relevant aside from potential resale value, which again is kinda lower priority as I'm probably going to ride this bike into the ground (hopefully figuratively and not literally).

For those that wanted a picture, this is all I have. I managed to get a quick snap with the phone before I removed the luggage gear, put on a cover and went to bed. I wished I remembered to get another one with the luggage removed as it looks much more sporty. I do need to do some detailing/engine cleaning. I'm planning on swapping the tires and chain (maybe front sprocket) all at once, probably tossing on a red chain. If I have some spare money and feel like wasting it with something totally useless, I'll see about annodizing or coloring the rims while the tires are off.

And as an aside, after seeing one in the dealership, I became an instant fan of the smaller 600 and 700 Monsters. I'm quickly turning from the fully faired bikes to the smaller, midweight, naked or 1/4 faring bikes.

 

[satyajitmenon]

Very Nice. Congrats OP. :thumbsup:

 

[JulesMaximus]

Regarding the Ohlins, I know they were purchased aftermarket new and installed by the dealer, having the same controls and such that are on the S model as far as I'm aware. As to whether they differ internally from the OEM Ohlins, I dunno 😛 To me it doesn't really matter all that much on this purchase as I highly doubt I would be pushing the suspension to its limits outside of a track or some offroad. And I'm sure that it'll be a good while before my skills are sufficent enough to reach those limits anyway. So whether or not they'll be useful to me is probably not very relevant aside from potential resale value, which again is kinda lower priority as I'm probably going to ride this bike into the ground (hopefully figuratively and not literally).

For those that wanted a picture, this is all I have. I managed to get a quick snap with the phone before I removed the luggage gear, put on a cover and went to bed. I wished I remembered to get another one with the luggage removed as it looks much more sporty. I do need to do some detailing/engine cleaning. I'm planning on swapping the tires and chain (maybe front sprocket) all at once, probably tossing on a red chain. If I have some spare money and feel like wasting it with something totally useless, I'll see about annodizing or coloring the rims while the tires are off.

And as an aside, after seeing one in the dealership, I became an instant fan of the smaller 600 and 700 Monsters. I'm quickly turning from the fully faired bikes to the smaller, midweight, naked or 1/4 faring bikes.

I like it! Here's a pic of my Monster for you. I am a big fan of them as well. :biggrin:

 

[SpatiallyAware]

mmmmm Ohlins

I would say the stuff for duc is middle of the road in the fork department. The rear is a TTX, thats the real deal no faking it.

Nope. Even the 1198 TTX does not have quite the same adjustability as the 'identical' off the shelf TTX.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Regarding the Ohlins, I know they were purchased aftermarket new and installed by the dealer, having the same controls and such that are on the S model as far as I'm aware. As to whether they differ internally from the OEM Ohlins, I dunno 😛 To me it doesn't really matter all that much on this purchase as I highly doubt I would be pushing the suspension to its limits outside of a track or some offroad. And I'm sure that it'll be a good while before my skills are sufficent enough to reach those limits anyway. So whether or not they'll be useful to me is probably not very relevant aside from potential resale value, which again is kinda lower priority as I'm probably going to ride this bike into the ground (hopefully figuratively and not literally).

For those that wanted a picture, this is all I have. I managed to get a quick snap with the phone before I removed the luggage gear, put on a cover and went to bed. I wished I remembered to get another one with the luggage removed as it looks much more sporty. I do need to do some detailing/engine cleaning. I'm planning on swapping the tires and chain (maybe front sprocket) all at once, probably tossing on a red chain. If I have some spare money and feel like wasting it with something totally useless, I'll see about annodizing or coloring the rims while the tires are off.

And as an aside, after seeing one in the dealership, I became an instant fan of the smaller 600 and 700 Monsters. I'm quickly turning from the fully faired bikes to the smaller, midweight, naked or 1/4 faring bikes.

Wow... Great looking bike!! Love the Duc swingarms :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[jaha2000]

Nope. Even the 1198 TTX does not have quite the same adjustability as the 'identical' off the shelf TTX.

Generally speaking, the only people that would notice any difference would not be paying for the suspension they are riding on anyways.

The fork legs in my picture are the real deal. I have the 2k bill to prove it 🙁

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Generally speaking, the only people that would notice any difference would not be paying for the suspension they are riding on anyways.

The fork legs in my picture are the real deal. I have the 2k bill to prove it 🙁

Hey my argument is definitely not that people need the 'real' ohlins stuff... Trust me.. I'm the guy railing on everyone while scraping body parts on a GS500... I'm of the "it's 90% rider, 10% bike" group and all that jazz. Not even getting into that 99.99% of the people paying extra for Duc ohlins aren't using it to potential.


But... People imply and think that the ohlins and brembo parts you get OEM are the same as off-the-shelf stuff which is not true.

In almost all cases (particularly with the 1198 series) you're better off getting the non-ohlins versions that comes with TC, then having your stock suspension worked over by dan kyle or traxxion or etc.

 

[WackyDan]

Enjoy the luggage. If you've never owned a touring machine before... you find that even for day to day commutes and runs to the store, they are awesome.

 

[kamikazekyle]

Hopped on for a 1.5 hour ride today, well late night anyway. I had planned on a nice jaunt during a cool but otherwise nice day. However, I had 6 hours and thusly the entire remaining daylight gobbled up just trying to put on new clipons and grips on my CBR. That was an exercise in frustration that involved every main tool I owned up to and including a crowbar. And I *still* have some work to do on the throttle control module >_<

Anyway, it was just some interstate and main urban road riding as I want to save rural areas until daylight. Or, at least until I get a new headlight and adjust the light angle as the current one is too dim for my tastes and easy to overrun if I'm the only illumination. The ride was awesomely comfortable even at 75 MPH on the interstate and the amount of wind blocking will serve to really extend the cold weather days without heated gear. I also happened to get in touch with the prior owner over at the Multistrada.net forums, and he keyed me with a few other things that he did to the bike like an LED tail light.

Enjoy the luggage. If you've never owned a touring machine before... you find that even for day to day commutes and runs to the store, they are awesome.

Coming from a CBR with a tank bag that could barely fit a pair of small shoes and a pop-up pannier that was lucky to pack my lunch, *anything* is an upgrade 😛 I really enjoy the ability to pop the luggage cases on and off at-will unlike my friend's hard-mounted saddlebags. I plan on taking advantage of that to do some final stocking stuffer shopping tomorrow before the rain comes in for the rest of the week. First day off in over a month.