Incidentally - here is what Zogby's polling data has to say about the electoral map: http://www.zogby.com/50state/
Incidentally - here is what Zogby's polling data has to say about the electoral map: http://www.zogby.com/50state/
Also - just for $hits and giggles, click on Arkansas (Obama up by 2% - but put in McCain's column anyway), Arizona (Obama up by 3% - but put in McCain's column again) and North Carolina (Obama up by 8% - but marked as too close to call). It perfectly demonstrates why polls are bogus.
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The wife of the guy who she supposedly had the affair with is denying it ever took place.
The fact that we are talking about this subject to such depth is amazing.
Gennifer Flowers came out and said "I had an affair with Bill Clinton" and even had recordings on her answering machine of Bill and yet the press left the story alone.
Now we have unnamed sources suggesting an affair and the media is in a feeding frenzy.
And you wonder why the right complains about media bias.
You must have had a sip of whatever Mitt Romney is drinking.
I love how you people view conservatism. Conservatism never fails, it is only failed. Every time a conservative politician, in Bush's case an EXTREMELY conservative politician screws something up, it's always because he just wasn't quite conservative enough to make it work.
Sure it is.
I don't wonder why the right complains about media bias, it's a great tool for them to deflect criticism and it plays into the persecution complex that is central to the right wing American identity.
Don't make it any more factual, as you have been shown time and time again.
Which of Bush's policies are considered "conservative"? I were born yesterday I would have guessed a big government liberal was running the show the last 8 years.
ProfJohn
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Just imagine the finger pointing that will go on post lost.
Obama will blame Clinton.
Clinton will blame Obama.
The media will blame racist Americans who won't vote for a black guy.
They will point to everything except the actual cause. Obama is to inexperienced and too liberal.
His policy on abortion.
His policy on police powers.
His policy on taxes.
His policy on business regulation.
His policy on the environment.
His policy on the military.
His policy on social security.
His policy on education.
... need I go on? "BUT BUT MEDICARE" does not make up for him being ultra right wing on nearly every other issue. Face it, Bush is a conservative, and with him conservatism failed... horribly.
OK - so help me understand why you would put a State in McCain's column when the only available data supports Obama?
Guys, type this post into Google. It's almost a verbatim repetition of several right wing blogs.
ProfJohn
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Rasmussen
Rasmussen has them tied.
Which is the same place they were on 8-27.
So we have had two VP picks and two conventions and zero movement in the polls.
It will come down to the debates.
Although, these numbers were not all taken after McCain's speech so we have one more day of polling to get a clear post convention bounce.
At most I would expect a 1 or 2 point lead for McCain though.
The last three days have been even, +1 and +1 for Obama.
Rasmussen has them tied.
Which is the same place they were on 8-27.
So we have had two VP picks and two conventions and zero movement in the polls.
It will come down to the debates.
Although, these numbers were not all taken after McCain's speech so we have one more day of polling to get a clear post convention bounce.
At most I would expect a 1 or 2 point lead for McCain though.
The last three days have been even, +1 and +1 for Obama.
Abortion - what has he done to affect the status quo on abortion? He has no power.
Police powers - you are kidding yourself if you think Gore would have done anything less after 9/11
Taxes - JFK cut taxes, Clinton cut taxes
Business regulation - examples?
Environment - you mean like how he kept Clinton policy of rejecting Kyoto?
Military - Clinton used the same rhetoric against saddam etc he only switched after Bush became president.
SS - he tried to fix SS but dems killed it, so he kept the dem status quo
Education - NCLB was written by Ted Kennedy
Now, if he were successful in having Roe v Wade overturned, he'd be a conservative.
If he cut corporate taxes to at least european levels, he'd be a conservative.
If he imperialized the middle east and made the oil US property, then he'd be a conservative.
If he made SS into private accounts, he'd be a conservative.
If he cut federal funding of education and handed it completely to local governments, he'd be a conservative.
ProfJohn
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Gallup
Gallup has McCain up by 3.
And this could go up even more tomorrow when all three nights of polling as post convention.
BTW the RCP average is down to .8%
Even worse for Obama is that 3 of the last 4 polls released show either tie or McCain ahead.
The last time McCain had the lead was back in March.
I think we could power some windmills with all the spin we are going to see from the Obama posters on these numbers.
Gallup has McCain up by 3.
And this could go up even more tomorrow when all three nights of polling as post convention.
BTW the RCP average is down to .8%
Even worse for Obama is that 3 of the last 4 polls released show either tie or McCain ahead.
The last time McCain had the lead was back in March.
I think we could power some windmills with all the spin we are going to see from the Obama posters on these numbers.
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JS80 is spot on. The moment government grew, the moment the Patriot Act became law, and the moment he placed government before the people Bush failed to be conservative. For us, conservatism is to conserve the tenants of the constitution to keep the people empowered over their government.
I understand you don?t believe in those tenants, but when Bush joined you in betraying them calling him an extremist only serves one purpose. To distract us from how very similar you are with him and the abuse of government power. He has grown it just as your hero Barrack will. Being two sides to a coin still makes you the same rotten penny.
So McCain gets a convention bounce just like Obama and suddenly it's over?
I must be either really old or some people don't understand presidential campaigns.
I must be either really old or some people don't understand presidential campaigns.
Yup, he's so unpopular because the left will hate him anyway because he's an R and the right will hate him because he acts nothing like an R.
McLame has to defend Ohio and pick off either Michigan or Pennsylvania to even be in the game electorally.
But Palin apparently isn't resonating very well in Clinton country: http://www.latimes.com/news/po...0,7702239.story?page=1
If Obama had to win Ohio, then this would be an extremely competitive, if not even uphill, race to the finish. Palin has made the race competitive, but it is ultimately still going to be an uphill fight for Palin McLame '08.
But Palin apparently isn't resonating very well in Clinton country: http://www.latimes.com/news/po...0,7702239.story?page=1
If Obama had to win Ohio, then this would be an extremely competitive, if not even uphill, race to the finish. Palin has made the race competitive, but it is ultimately still going to be an uphill fight for Palin McLame '08.
I think FLorida may have turned into a bigger opportunity for Obama than Ohio. Also, Obama needs to shore up NH. Beyond NH, he has options in VA, NC, NV, OH, FL, CO maybe IN. He wins one of those he wins the election.
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