Zionism, the path to peace.

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sarsipias1234

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I wanted to comment on this quote from ProJhn:

The only international law that applies to everyone is 'might makes right' if you have the power to enforce the laws via force then you can do so, but if you don't have that power then all you can do is ask nicely.

This is very appropriate to the violence we see in today's youth.

Do the police truly have the power to quite the rioting by the youth?

Cut backs have led to understaffed police forces.

Even if the police have all the resources necessary what do we do with these offenders?

In England they arrested nearly 1000 people. Wouldn't that overload just about any police system in the country today?

Who will wind up having the mightier might to make things right?

I'm betting the youth will win this fight.
 

EagleKeeper

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Depends on the standards of winning applied. If the police do not confront them and forfeit control, the the you wins.
 

Abwx

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Maybe that is why I do such a lousy job of typing, I hit the Z key and get a S. I hunt and peck the W key and get and get a Z, proof positive its all about Buuush.

You are simply too nervous..
Have you tested prozioac ?...
It s really great , if you see the life in dark ,
it will suddenly turn white in a heartbeat ,
all current reality will be reversed, it s magic !!....:)
 

iGas

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I will admit, that the piece of land was not sold this time; it was captured in conflict; Jordan/Palestinians are the losing side; what gives them right to dictate the rules.

Did you see Japan or Germany dictate how the victors should act?

Previous sales of land by Arabs to the Jews have been used to define the boundaries of Israel that the Arabs and Palestinians want to take back.

I'm sorry but it might be worth it if you do some reading and find out the truth for yourself instead of being a mouth piece for Zionist due to being ignorant.

Harry S. Truman 1947 Diary. 6:00 P. M. Monday July 21, 1947 -- trumanlibrary.org

Had ten minutes conversation with Henry Morgenthau about Jewish ship in Palistine [sic]. Told him I would talk to Gen[eral] Marshall about it.

He'd no business, whatever to call me. The Jews have no sense of proportion nor do they have any judgement on world affairs.

Henry brought a thousand Jews to New York on a supposedly temporary basis and they stayed. When the country went backward-and Republican in the election of 1946, this incident loomed large on the D[isplaced] P[ersons] program.

The Jews, I find are very, very selfish. They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as D[isplaced] P[ersons] as long as the Jews get special treatment. Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the under dog. Put an underdog on top and it makes no difference whether his name is Russian, Jewish, Negro, Management, Labor, Mormon, Baptist he goes haywire. I've found very, very few who remember their past condition when prosperity comes.

Look at the Congress[ional] attitude on D[isplaced] P[ersons]-and they all come from D[isplaced] P[erson]s.

Arab citizens of Israel -- Wikipedia

The Israeli Declaration of Independence stated that the State of Israel would ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex, and guaranteed freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture. While formally equal according to Israeli law, a number of official sources acknowledge that Arab citizens of Israel experience discrimination in many aspects of life. Israeli High Court Justice (Ret.) Theodor Or wrote in The Report by the State Commission of Inquiry into the Events of October 2000:
 

Nebor

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You would had failed and took the W instead...

titanium_azerty_keyboard.jpg

I didn't realize terrorists had their own keyboard patterns.

In response to the OP, good going Israel. Don't take no guff from no one.
 

iGas

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I didn't realize terrorists had their own keyboard patterns.

In response to the OP, good going Israel. Don't take no guff from no one.
Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

That no one is the main entity that created Israel, and is the same entity that is financing the welfare state of Israel since 1948 to now.

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Nebor

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Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

That no one is the main entity that created Israel, and is the same entity that is financing the welfare state of Israel since 1948 to now.

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The US is never going to take a hard line against Israel. Ever. When they do something really bad, we just turn a blind eye.

They're too valuable an asset against the various terrorist nations of the Middle East to jeopardize our relationship over how they treat some worthless, stateless insurgents (the "Palestinians.")
 

Abwx

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The US is never going to take a hard line against Israel. Ever. When they do something really bad, we just turn a blind eye.

They're too valuable an assset as terrorist nation of the Middle East to jeopardize our relationship over how they perform continual crimes

Fixed to be adequate with reality....
 

tommo123

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it's political. no different to when rich irish americans demanded the US support it during it's terrorist years (not saying israel is btw, just a comparison). the US turned a blind eye to all the americans sending money to the IRA and aiding them.
 

Nebor

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it's political. no different to when rich irish americans demanded the US support it during it's terrorist years (not saying israel is btw, just a comparison). the US turned a blind eye to all the americans sending money to the IRA and aiding them.

Good point. The palestinian lovers in here don't seem to realize that as the wealthiest nation on earth, we are naturally the largest sponsor of "terrorism" in the world.
 

Woofmeister

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I'm glad that everyone here is so concerned with Palestinian property rights. What about Israeli property rights?

Israelis own approximately 75 percent (1,300 dunams) of the land of har-homa, one-third of which was purchased before 1948. The remainder was purchased after 1967.

Source

By what right do Palestinians get to prevent Jews from building on land they lawfully purchased and own?
 

Abwx

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Wait, so when Jews buy land from Arabs that sale is nul and void? Let me guess, is that because Islamic land remains Islamic forever?

Because they owe actually only a little part of Palestine.
The rest has been extorted by force..

John Wolffe says that while Zionists tend to attribute Palestinian rejection of the plan to a mere intransigence, Arabs have always reiterated that it was rejected because it was unfair: it gave the majority of the land (56 percent) to the Jews, who at that stage legally owned only 7 percent of it,[92] and remained a minority of the population.[93http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_UN_Partition_Plan#cite_note-JohnWolffe-92

By 1943, Jews had paid $560,000,000 for nearly 400,000 acres, amounting to around 6&#37; of the land.[10
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_land_purchase_in_Palestine

Palestine's land surface was approximately 26,320,505 dunums (26,320 km2), of which about one third was cultivable. By comparison, the size of modern day Israel (as of 2006) is 20,770,000 dunums (20,770 km2) (Geography of Israel). The land in Jewish possession had risen from 456,000 dunums (456 km2) in 1920 to 1,393,000 dunums (1,393 km2) in 1945[66] and 1,850,000 dunums (1,850 km2) by 1947 (Avneri p. 224).[67]
 
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Abwx

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Really? I thought we were talking about Har-Homa? Try staying on topic. Do you deny that Jews lawfully purchased 75&#37; of the land on which Har-Homa currently sits?

They bought it to their government after it did illegally seize it
as an israeli property..

Didnt know this place before, mind you....
You should Google a little rather than always absorbing the zio made brainwashing mediatic medications..

Har Homa (Hebrew: &#1492;&#1512; &#1495;&#1493;&#1502;&#1492;&#8206;, lit Defense-Wall Mountain, officially renamed Homat Shmuel) is a neighborhood in southern East Jerusalem, near Beit Sahour.[1][2] Built on land annexed to the Jerusalem municipality by Israel after the 1967 Six-Day War, it is considered by much of the world[3] an illegal Israeli settlement,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Har_Homa
 
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kylebisme

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By what right do Palestinians get to prevent Jews from building on land they lawfully purchased and own?
The problem isn't Israelis building on the small percentage of Palestine which they legally purchased, but rather the vast majority of the land, which they stole.
 
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Oric

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How about giving a map of Europe and Russia, where most of the current citizens of Israel were persona non-grata ?
 

Woofmeister

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They bought it to their government after it did illegally seize it
as an israeli property..

Didnt know this place before, mind you....
You should Google a little rather than always absorbing the zio made brainwashing mediatic medications..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Har_Homa

No. The Jews did not buy it from the Government after it was annexed by Israel. There was no Israeli government prior to 1948. In fact, if you read further into your own Wikipedia entry (for whatever that's worth) you'll find that the Israeli government expropriated most of the land for Har Homa from Israelis:

Israeli officials acknowledge that some Palestinian land was expropriated for the Har Homa neighborhood, but say that nearly 80 percent of the land taken for the project belonged to Jews.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Har_Homa#cite_note-9 According to another source, 75% of the land was expropriated from Israelis.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Har_Homa#cite_note-10
 

Woofmeister

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The problem isn't Israelis building on the small percentage of Palestine which they legally purchased, but rather the vast majority of the land, which they stole.

So I gather you have no problem with Israel building in Har Homa since 80% of it was owned by Israelis?
 

Abwx

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No. The Jews did not buy it from the Government after it was annexed by Israel. There was no Israeli government prior to 1948. In fact, if you read further into your own Wikipedia entry (for whatever that's worth) you'll find that the Israeli government expropriated most of the land for Har Homa from Israelis:

You are dense..
Prior to 1967 , this part of Jerusalem was Jordan s soil.
The israeli gov. did seize it , sold it to israelis citizens
and is now expropriating these israelis from this
illegally annexed land...

Need further explanations ??...Really, these zio medics are efficients...:D
 

Oric

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woofmeister : Israel has a right to exist at some borders. But those borders shall not be ever expanding as the current Israeli government hopes to do so. All these purchased/conquered land theories have got to stop at a historic boundary which most of the nations of the World suggest to be the 1967 borders.

Of course after negotiations there can be small changes but what Israel wants to accomplish is to get all ... Nope
 

Woofmeister

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You should give the zionists a little part of the US , your country is also big.
Why giving them a land that is not yours..??...

For one thing, the Jews don't have any historic claim to any part of the U.S. and there was no continuous 3,000 year Jewish presence in the U.S.