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I think the thought is that it does not have NSA backdoors. This doesn't mean the NSA can't find vulnerabilities.
If it does not have NSA backdoors, one wonders what backdoors is DOES have.
I think the thought is that it does not have NSA backdoors. This doesn't mean the NSA can't find vulnerabilities.
Zhaoxin to Design Discrete GPUs
source: https://www.techpowerup.com/269657/zhaoxin-to-design-discrete-gpus
AMD and Nvidia, beware, a Chinese CPU maker is readying a graphics chip
source: https://global.techradar.com/en-za/...hinese-cpu-developer-is-readying-discrete-gpu
S3 Graphics design continues ...
Because technology from dGPU will be in next gen iGPU part of CPU SoC.Shouldn't this be posted in the GPU forum?
Because technology from dGPU will be in next gen iGPU part of CPU SoC.
I think a lot of people are underestimating the Chinese's ability to produce a competitive chip in the future.
Sure, they're well behind right now. But it wouldn't surprise me if they're competitive within 10 years.
How long is that going to take? VIA/Zhaoxin has been at work for years and haven't gained much ground. In fact they appear to be losing ground. Now they're going to try dGPUs too? At this point, if I were a "pro-China" shop I would be looking at the 8c/8t Kunpeng boards and trying to do things in Linux.
China's goal is to move up the value chain. If they want to focus on semiconductors, it won't surprise me if they're competitive within 10 years.But it wouldn't surprise me if they're competitive within 10 years.
For example, they decided 5G was important so they blew the competition out.
Yeah and spawned 1000+ articles written by jingoistic political hacks in the US about how we're "losing at 5G" even if they have no idea of what it is or to whom it matters.
China threw as many resources as they were prepared to throw at semicon years ago starting with Longsoon/Godson, and really got nowhere with it. They've poured money into VIA, Huawei, and other ventures as well. So call me unconvinced. I'm not saying it's impossible, but in 10 years, we may be at the point of physical limits of semiconductors anyway, which will cause any lead non-Chinese design firms have to slowly evaporate just from being unable to rely on node improvements.
Conspiracy theory much?Yeah and spawned 1000+ articles written by jingoistic political hacks in the US about how we're "losing at 5G" even if they have no idea of what it is or to whom it matters.
Conspiracy theory much?
Point being, "winning at 5G" didn't cost the Chicoms nearly anywhere near as much as catching up to Intel, AMD, Apple, ARM Holdings, etc. would cost them, and I see no specific evidence that it's going to work out for them either. You can't just throw money at the problem.
Zhaoxin by comparison didn't even exist until well after 2 decades Huawei first opened!
China's goal is to move up the value chain. If they want to focus on semiconductors, it won't surprise me if they're competitive within 10 years.
For example, they decided 5G was important so they blew the competition out.
As someone who has lived in China, Americans don't understand just how competitive the Chinese people are. There is no communism left. It's pure capitalism. Dog eat dog. The competition inside China is brutal and this inside competition is what is driving much of their competitiveness globally.
In addition, they have something the U.S. has: a huge domestic market. Their companies can grow into multi-billion dollar entities serving only the domestic population and then wreck the competition with their sheer size globally, ala Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Microsoft, etc.
It took 1349s to render the BMW Blender scene on the KX-U6780a. Classroom took 4274s. Oh my goodness. It beat an old AMD 7870k in CBR20 MT though! Lost badly in ST, but still . . . that's something, right?
Another german review:
An exotic from China with eight cores: The Zhaoxin KX-U6780A in the test
source:Ein Exot aus China mit acht Kernen: Der Zhaoxin KX-U6780A im Test - Hardwareluxx
Ein Exot aus China – Der Zhaoxin KX-U6780A im Test.www.hardwareluxx.de
P.S. anandtech review is still on the way...
Comparison in CPU-Z and Cinebench R20 with AMD 7870 to 3.9 GHz at 4.1 GHz QuadCore. Did I miss something?