Zero: An Investigation Into 9/11

[Mr. Lennon]

Before you immediately label this movie as just another whack job truther video, please hear me out.

This film was created by a couple directors from Italy who sought to find out as much as possible about 9/11. Many of the people interviewed in this film are very credible in their area of expertise, as well as some high profile people as well. This film isn't just a low budget POS like Loose Change.

I personally don't believe Bush could have orchestrated such an attack...but there is a good chance it could of just been done right under his nose.

http://video.google.com/videop...d=2296490368603788739#


As long as there is not a THIRD thread any time soon, I am inclined to let this thread be. Freedom of speech is a vitally important end in itself.

If stupidity were the censoring point here on P&N, we'd ALL be in trouble.

Perknose
Senior AT Mod

 

[BeauJangles]

Are you fucking serious? We have a 1600 post thread dedicated to this stupid-ass topic. Can we please get this merged into that thread before it becomes yet another suckfest of stupidity?

 

[OCGuy]

Oh man......

 

[bfdd]

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Before you immediately label this movie as just another whack job truther video, please hear me out.

This film was created by a couple directors from Italy who sought to find out as much as possible about 9/11. Many of the people interviewed in this film are very credible in their area of expertise, as well as some high profile people as well. This film isn't just a low budget POS like Loose Change.

I personally don't believe Bush couldn't have orchestrated such an attack...but there is a good chance it could of just been done right under his nose.

http://video.google.com/videop...d=2296490368603788739#

aren't double negatives positive?

 

[al981]

obviously, vice traitor cheney had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11.

see, proof cheney is COMPLETELY innocent and doesn't deserve to be imprisoned for treason.

what are you "truthers" smoking.

 

[First]

This is the same old rehashed stuff. For there to have been a conspiracy within the gov't (however large or small), every single piece of evidence leading to such a conspiracy would have had to have been concealed, destroyed, and the paper/electronic trail disappeared. All within the federal gov't no less, a place of infinite, hairy paperwork and relentless chain of command. You'd have to conspire with people capable of not slipping up for years and years and years (8 years now); be it the nonsense about demolition charges inside the WTCs, the notion that every single one of the NIST engineers and privately contracted engineers during the 9/11 investigation were either 1) in on some part of the conspiracy or 2) simply forget basic high school physics as some twerps here have claimed, or the idea that somehow every single witness to the plane that hit the Pentagon were either lying, in on the conspiracy, or severely mentally challenged (not to mention, where the hell did the people on that flight go if they didn't crash into the Pentagon, and how did every single person in charge of electronic records at the TSA not connect the dots here?).

All of it is total rubbish, and the likelihood this was down under Bush and the rest of the admin's nose is so remote as to be demonstrably dumb and painfully laughable to even hear uttered.

 

[LunarRay]

Proof positive that God exists by inference to the evilness of Two 9/11 threads....
Please OP ask for a merge to the only one needed...

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Before you immediately label this movie as just another whack job truther video, please hear me out.

This film was created by a couple directors from Italy who sought to find out as much as possible about 9/11. Many of the people interviewed in this film are very credible in their area of expertise, as well as some high profile people as well. This film isn't just a low budget POS like Loose Change.

I personally don't believe Bush couldn't have orchestrated such an attack...but there is a good chance it could of just been done right under his nose.

http://video.google.com/videop...d=2296490368603788739#

People far more credible in their expertise have determined that there really was no grand government conspiracy required; the buildings collapsed because of damage and fires. This film is little more than a Italian made version of Loose Change. It makes the same basic claims and foregoes the same due diligence that Loose Change did.

The problem with "truther" videos is not what they tell you, it's what they omit. They disregard the large body of evidence that contradicts their theory and by doing so can be discounted as more misdirection than any sort of "truth." When a truther film can actually present both sides of the story in its entirety and provide any sort of balance that doesn't involve removing statements from context, and stays away from the melodramatic music and MTV video edits, they might begin to make a case. However, I don't believe that truthers can do that and produce a true documentary that doesn't step all over their own wildly disparate theories. That is why they have never produced an balanced documentary on the subject in the first place that was worth a watch and that wasn't filled with an immediately recognized, inherent bias.

Regardless, that kind of trash will continue to appeal to those who eat up garbage like the New World Order, Bilderbergers, Skull & Bones, JFK assassination, fake moon landing, Marilyn Monroe's "murder," Iranian oil bourses, and whatever other silly flavor of the day conspiracy happens to pop up. There are certain people that seem to love that flavor of Kool-Aid.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Before you immediately label this movie as just another whack job truther video, please hear me out.

This film was created by a couple directors from Italy who sought to find out as much as possible about 9/11. Many of the people interviewed in this film are very credible in their area of expertise, as well as some high profile people as well. This film isn't just a low budget POS like Loose Change.

I personally don't believe Bush couldn't have orchestrated such an attack...but there is a good chance it could of just been done right under his nose.

http://video.google.com/videop...d=2296490368603788739#

People far more credible in their expertise have determined that there really was no grand government conspiracy required; the buildings collapsed because of damage and fires. This film is little more than a Italian made version of Loose Change. It makes the same basic claims and foregoes the same due diligence that Loose Change did.

The problem with "truther" videos is not what they tell you, it's what they omit. They disregard the large body of evidence that contradicts their theory and by doing so can be discounted as more misdirection than any sort of "truth." When a truther film can actually present both sides of the story in its entirety and provide any sort of balance that doesn't involve removing statements from context, and stays away from the melodramatic music and MTV video edits, they might begin to make a case. However, I don't believe that truthers can do that and produce a true documentary that doesn't step all over their own wildly disparate theories. That is why they have never produced an balanced documentary on the subject in the first place that was worth a watch and that wasn't filled with an immediately recognized, inherent bias.

Regardless, that kind of trash will continue to appeal to those who eat up garbage like the New World Order, Bilderbergers, Skull & Bones, JFK assassination, fake moon landing, Marilyn Monroe's "murder," Iranian oil bourses, and whatever other silly flavor of the day conspiracy happens to pop up. There are certain people that seem to love that flavor of Kool-Aid.

It was squirrels that did the base damage, it was basically a wooden structure! Besides it fell to both sides at the same rate which was near or close to (it's not the same thing, is it?) the speed of a falling lightning!

I know this because kylebeisme has copied math to prove it!

[Edit] The squirrels were actually questioned in an underground facilty where they admitted that they were hired by the government of Bermuda and US (which is secretly the same government) [/Edit]

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
This film isn't just a low budget POS like Loose Change.

The newest version of Loose Change is actually rather well done. It was up for streaming on various sites but I can't locate a full version now other than torrent links. However, you can watch the trailer at their website, and just from that I'm sure you'd agree they have come a long way. Having seen the whole thing, I consider it a notably better quality production than Zero, though Zero is a decent effort too.

Originally posted by: BeauJangles
We have a 1600 post thread dedicated to this stupid-ass topic.

No, that thread is specifically about the fall of WTC7, and I'm glad Zeppelin didn't try to drag it off topic like all you falsers do.

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I know this because kylebeisme has copied math to prove it!

The math was my own, while you falsers can't even copy math to refute me, because no such math exists, and hence you are left to resort to lies.

 

[Double Trouble]

hahaha, you truthers are funny. Mods, can we merge this into the other truther thread?

 

[kylebisme]

I'd prefer all the off topic posts in my thread were merged into this thread, as this one is more of a general discussion of 9/11 while mine is specifically focused on the fall of WTC7. Granted, culling all the off topic replies to my thread is more tedious work than I'd wish on anyone.

 

[Kirby]

I don't think I can handle 2 threads of lulz. :Q

 

[StageLeft]

Would you fvck off. Go find a truther forum or something, we don't give a sh*t about this rubbish. LET IT GO.

Bush jr can barely fvcking read, he didn't orchestrate jack sh*t.

You make yourself look stupider and by extension us for being in the same forums.

Here you go:
http://americanstew.net/index.php?board=45.0
http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=14

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Bush jr can barely fvcking read, he didn't orchestrate jack sh*t.

If you could contain your emotions enough to properly read the thread, you'd realize no one here accused Bush of orchestrating anything. Unfortunately, spout off like some kid being told Santa doesn't exist instead.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Mickael Moore has spoken on this topic; no more need be said.

/facepalm

 

[Toastedlightly]

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
Before you immediately label this movie as just another whack job truther video, please hear me out.

This film was created by a couple directors from Italy who sought to find out as much as possible about 9/11. Many of the people interviewed in this film are very credible in their area of expertise, as well as some high profile people as well. This film isn't just a low budget POS like Loose Change.

I personally don't believe Bush could have orchestrated such an attack...but there is a good chance it could of just been done right under his nose.

http://video.google.com/videop...d=2296490368603788739#

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: BeauJangles
Are you fucking serious? We have a 1600 post thread dedicated to this stupid-ass topic. Can we please get this merged into that thread before it becomes yet another suckfest of stupidity?

:thumbsup:

 

[Delita]

Originally posted by: kylebisme
I'd prefer all the off topic posts in my thread were merged into this thread, as this one is more of a general discussion of 9/11 while mine is specifically focused on the fall of WTC7. Granted, culling all the off topic replies to my thread is more tedious work than I'd wish on anyone.

No one gives a shit what you prefer.

 

[KMFJD]

Get over it already

 

[Delita]

P&N is set to become the next 9/11 truther forum.

 

[whylaff]

I think it was the second gunman on the grassy knoll.

 

[rudder]

The Navy shot down TWA flight 800!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[JD50]

Seriously?

 

[Number1]

I suggest we create a conspiracy theories section in the new forum structure just like ATOT or maybe a subcategory under P&N.

Then we will have our own little paradise where we can bash the twuthers at will, 24/7, 365 days of the year.



Please.