Zen-based Opteron?

[nathanddrews]

What's the status/timeline of Zen-based server products? It would seem that the power efficiency and pricing of Ryzen is foreshadowing of what we can expect from Zen-based Opterons. That is, exceptional perf/W and perf/$ compared to Intel.

Intel's C612 chipset boards offer a ton of I/O and tested reliability, but the equivalent v3 or v4 Xeon in cores and speed is astronomical in cost and is not as power efficient. Current Zen motherboards don't seem as well featured and certainly not as thoroughly tested - they also aren't targeting the server environment.

I'm really looking forward to consolidating several of my current servers into one and would need 8C/16T to be comfortable. I can wait another 8-12 months before upgrading - assuming nothing breaks before then, so that's why I'm curious about the future of Opteron.

 

[imported_jjj]

The launch is Q2 for Naples but remains to be seen if that means retail availability and at what prices.

 

[nathanddrews]

The launch is Q2 for Naples but remains to be seen if that means retail availability and at what prices.

Naples is code for Opteron (Ryzeron?)? That's much sooner than I expected, thanks!

 

[imported_jjj]

They should be using the same die and up to 32 cores SKUs and up to 2 sockets.
Consumer CPUs do have ECC enabled but the mobo maker needs to enable it.
They might also have some Pro SKUs in consumer at some point.
Just in case consumer parts might be enough for you as they tend to be cheaper.

 

[nathanddrews]

They should be using the same die and up to 32 cores SKUs and up to 2 sockets.

Mostly I think my preference between Ryzen and Naples will come down to Naples binning and motherboard features, then. I have to assume that Naples parts might be more power efficient and boards will offer more I/O options.

What I really want may not be realistic, but if I can get a 16C/32T CPU, a mobo with dual GbE, minimum 2 PCIe x16 slots and at least 10 SATA ports, all for under $1,000, I think I'll be happy for a long, long time.

 

[R0H1T]

Mostly I think my preference between Ryzen and Naples will come down to Naples binning and motherboard features, then. I have to assume that Naples parts might be more power efficient and boards will offer more I/O options.

What I really want may not be realistic, but if I can get a 16C/32T CPU, a mobo with dual GbE, minimum 2 PCIe x16 slots and at least 10 SATA ports, all for under $1,000, I think I'll be happy for a long, long time.

You're kidding, right?

 

[CatMerc]

You're kidding, right?

*Looks at Ryzen prices*
*Remembers his own, and everyone elses, predictions*

At this rate I wouldn't be surprised anymore.

 

[nathanddrews]

You're kidding, right?

Why would I be? I can buy a Intel C612 chipset, dual-socket 2011-v3 motherboard for under $300 and two Xeon E5-2620v4 CPUs for about $400 each.

 

[R0H1T]

*Looks at Ryzen prices*
*Remembers his own, and everyone elses, predictions*

At this rate I wouldn't be surprised anymore.

Oh I won't be surprised either but at this rate they won't make (too) much through servers anytime soon.

 

[R0H1T]

Why would I be? I can buy a Intel C612 chipset, dual-socket 2011-v3 motherboard for under $300 and two Xeon E5-2620v4 CPUs for about $400 each.

All brand new(?) if so then it makes sense.

 

[imported_jjj]

All brand new(?) if so then it makes sense.

The E5-2620v4 is about 415$ and cheapest dual socket mobos are about 300$.

 

[Atari2600]

That is, exceptional perf/W and perf/$ compared to Intel.

In a high density blade, perf/W is outright perf!

The Ryzen wattage at ~3.0 GHz will allow for Naples to pack 32C64T on one SKU with a base freq at that speed at ~150W TDP! [The Stilt managed ~3.3GHz at around 40W per 8C die.]

The Xeon E5 line in contrast, currently tops out at "just" 22C44T - and has a base frequency of 2.4 GHz - it also costs a cool $5K.


[Comparing only base frequencies as the intel ark turbo is for single core operation - not relevant to server and I don't have all core turbo data.]

 

[AMDisTheBEST]

isnt it coming q2? unlike the consumer market catering mostly to gamers, ryzen should be able to take on intel kaby and coffee in server no problem. If they can win anywhere 5-10% in market share, their revenues will double.

 

[sayanc]

have you guys noticed that we are close to end of Q1 and the AMD server processors page is offline?
http://www.amd.com/en/products/servers-processors

What you all think?

 

[Atari2600]

What you all think?

I think they shouldn't have decided to host it on a Zen server till they did a bit more work on the bios

 

[Justinbaileyman]

Mostly I think my preference between Ryzen and Naples will come down to Naples binning and motherboard features, then. I have to assume that Naples parts might be more power efficient and boards will offer more I/O options.

What I really want may not be realistic, but if I can get a 16C/32T CPU, a mobo with dual GbE, minimum 2 PCIe x16 slots and at least 10 SATA ports, all for under $1,000, I think I'll be happy for a long, long time.

We can wish right?? I know I'd drop a grand on a 16c/32t Ryzen/Opteron server rig Asap.