Discussion Zen 7 speculation thread

[marees]

1.4nm
33 cores ccd
264 core processor

AMD's next-gen Zen 7 chips with X3D teased, new 3D cores, and more in fresh rumors
AMD's future-gen Zen 7 CPU architecture rumored with '3D cores' that would usher in 'absurdly high' performance increases for gaming.

Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/1052...-3d-cores-and-more-in-fresh-rumors/index.html

AMD Zen 7 will pull further ahead of Intel with dedicated 3D core, says leak

Though its release is still far in the future, veteran hardware leaker MLID says Zen 7 CPUs could vastly improve performance with 3D cores.

www.pcguide.com

Edit-1:

New AMD Zen 7 leak sheds light on impressive performance uplift and massively increased 3D V-cache

Moore's Law is Dead has revealed a ton of information about AMD's upcoming Zen 7 architecture. Its CCDs will be manufactured on TSMC's A16 node and can fit up to 16 full-fat Zen 7 cores.

www.notebookcheck.net

 

[marees]

Zen 7 tape‑out is planned for late 2026 or early 2027, and we probably won't see products on shelves until 2028 or later.

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www.techpowerup.com

 

[CakeMonster]

Really, this guy again? 'Veteran leaker'? He lied even more shamelessly in the 'old days'. The main Z6 rumors like N2 and 12c circulated on right here on AT forums before he posted it.

 

[soresu]

AMD's next-gen Zen 7 chips with X3D teased, new 3D cores, and more in fresh rumors
AMD's future-gen Zen 7 CPU architecture rumored with '3D cores' that would usher in 'absurdly high' performance increases for gaming.

Not sure I buy into the concept that they somehow need a multi layer core to get more IPC, unless it's just about reducing IO wire lengths between certain parts of the core.

 

[Thunder 57]

What a joke. Far too early for this. MLID got exposed a couple years ago by saying crap that was made up by people and he took the bait.

 

[inquiss]

Not sure I buy into the concept that they somehow need a multi layer core to get more IPC, unless it's just about reducing IO wire lengths between certain parts of the core.

Isn't it just a way of increasing cache sizes at same cost...

 

[del42sa]

What a joke. Far too early for this. MLID got exposed a couple years ago by saying crap that was made up by people and he took the bait.

 

[NTMBK]

SMT4 baybeeee

 

[LightningZ71]

This stuff... LOL

I could buy them doubling L2 to 2MB and moving all L3 off the CCD and onto a cache die for high end desktop/premium luggable/TR/Epyc and further separating their mainstream and mobile monolithic parts to a more traditional setup.

 

[Thunder 57]

SMT4 baybeeee

LoL that guy, I forget his name. Oh wait, I think I just recalled it. He was on Extremetech before that site went to crap. He just shortened it. Now, nobody bothers with Extremetech. It's the Xbitlabs of the modern era. The guy who runs the site is a turd. Then Joel left and it went to 💩 .

 

[soresu]

Really, this guy again? 'Veteran leaker'? He lied even more shamelessly in the 'old days'. The main Z6 rumors like N2 and 12c circulated on right here on AT forums before he posted it.

Half the stuff in the YT rumor mill these days is basically just recirculating from forums like this one, it seems par for the course at this point.

 

[soresu]

Isn't it just a way of increasing cache sizes at same cost...

Seemed to be implying something explicitly separate from mere X3D V cache SKUs.

 

[fastandfurious6]

what is a dedicated 3D core?

something like voodoo3Dfx ?

 

[poke01]

Ugh, too early the US of A might not even have 50 states by the time Zen7 comes out,

 

[Thunder 57]

Ugh, too early the US of A might not even have 50 states by the time Zen7 comes out,

I doubt it. If my old memory serves me well both the state and the rest of the states have to both approve of succession. Barring of course a civil war which hopefully nobody wants. I hope to see the launch of Zen 7.

 

[marees]

I hope we get RDNA 5 in the iod

 

[inquiss]

Seemed to be implying something explicitly separate from mere X3D V cache SKUs.

Yeah, all of the L3 cache on the doe freeing up space for more L2 on the CCD. So overall more cache rather than adding L3 on top of L3. So, more cache overall and more cost effective. Was my read...

 

[del42sa]

I hope we get RDNA 5 in the iod

RDNA 3.75

 

[Doug S]

In for 40%+ IPC gain over Zen 6 to set the bar absurdly high right from the start!

 

[ryanjagtap]

what is a dedicated 3D core?

something like voodoo3Dfx ?

I assumed the 3D core being a core made by 3D stacking the different blocks of the CPU vertically.

 

[maddie]

I doubt it. If my old memory serves me well both the state and the rest of the states have to both approve of succession. Barring of course a civil war which hopefully nobody wants. I hope to see the launch of Zen 7.

There might be more?

 

[Win2012R2]

That's a load of MLID

 

[poke01]

I doubt DDR6/LPDDR6 by both AMD/Intel before 2028

AM6 and Zen7?

 

[soresu]

ngl with the less than mind blowing perf uplift of Zen5 after years of hype I'm starting to feel that someone is trying to generate that kind of pre release hype train here.

 

[511]

Zen 7 tape‑out is planned for late 2026 or early 2027, and we probably won't see products on shelves until 2028 or later.

AMD "Zen 7" Rumors: Three Core Classes, 2 MB L2, 7 MB V‑Cache, and TSMC A14 Node

AMD is already looking ahead to its Zen 7 generation and is planning the final details for its next generation of Zen IP. The first hints come from YouTuber "Moore's Law Is Dead," which points to a few interesting decisions. AMD plans to extend its multi‑class core strategy that began with Zen...

www.techpowerup.com

It's MLID and if you ask me Zen 7 is EOY 2028 at best

AM6 and Zen7?

Likely