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First, Do you want to proof that Genoa is the world record breaker ?
Here for one. Do I need to google for more ????id like to see some world records which Genoa has broken.
Because all i can find are these:
None of which are PCMark / Cinabench / PassMark / Timespy / GHZ world record.
They lost Cinabench recently and yes these are broken on super exotic cooling, but its not like you can't put a Genoa on LN2 either. ThreadRipper on Exotic cooling had the WR, but lost it reciently.
Id like to honestly see what world records Genoa has and actually been credited for.
Then might I refresh your memory:In the first place, I have not been caught lying, except in your opinion.
The 12700F sucks the power of 2 5950x's and get creamed in total performance 4x by 2 5950x's, or 2x one on one.
Oh, or the time you were ranting because someone pointed out your source said the opposite of your claim.You've been consistently claiming your 12700f consumes 300W, and even directly comparing it to AMD's PPT or even TDP values. Now "whoops" maybe it was actually 180W...
You honestly think anyone believes that? Lol.And I don't hate Intel
Hah, my employment is neither with Intel, or contingent on whatever they're doing. And I've been one of the loudest in calling out their boneheadedness. But to you, anyone not foaming at the mouth must be an Intel shill.Oh, not to mention Intel laying people off due to losing income, especially in servers. I know you are trying to justify your employment, but please get real, and admit what is going on.
So what would you call insisting that Zen 4 is >25% IPC over Zen 3? Or are you going to finally post these elusive benchmarks you always claim to have, but can never produce...denial is a symptom of mental illness.
My last reply. I have kill-a-watt views of the useage. And I had log files proving why (using avx-512 which we know sucks power) but you denied all my proof.Then might I refresh your memory:
And I called you out on that for trying to manipulate your own claims even a few comments later:Page 19 - Question - Raptor Lake - Official Thread
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So, you were saying something about denial?
You honestly think anyone believes that? Lol.
Hah, my employment is neither with Intel, or contingent on whatever they're doing. And I've been one of the loudest in calling out their boneheadedness. But to you, anyone not foaming at the mouth must be an Intel shill.
So what would you call insisting that Zen 4 is >25% IPC over Zen 3? Or are you going to finally post these elusive benchmarks you always claim to have, but can never produce...
Anyway, that's enough feeding the trolls from me. This was a waste of time.
Yeah, ok, this is clearly just trolling now. No more doubt in my mind.Once again, you don't have to be so obtuse.
Well, people working at DCAI are all like you but I digress.
An Intel employee calling everybody in this thread a troll. Like we will listen to that.Yeah, ok, this is clearly just trolling now. No more doubt in my mind.
Yet you posted no such proof, nor was anyone ever able to reproduce it. This all being clearly documented in the thread I linked. The very chip you claimed to have used is power limited to half the number you gave.And I had log files proving why (using avx-512 which we know sucks power) but you denied all my proof.
So you're seriously insisting that Zen 4 is 25%, 30%, etc. IPC over Zen 3? You're so far beyond reason that you reject established facts. Hahahaha. You know what, I change my mind. It was worth the effort to see this spectacle. The stage is all yours.And an Intel employee debating AMD stats ? We are supposed to believe you ?
id like to see some world records which Genoa has broken.
Because all i can find are these:
None of which are PCMark / Cinabench / PassMark / Timespy / GHZ world record.
They lost Cinabench recently and yes these are broken on super exotic cooling, but its not like you can't put a Genoa on LN2 either. ThreadRipper on Exotic cooling had the WR, but lost it reciently.
Id like to honestly see what world records Genoa has and actually been credited for.
So you're seriously insisting that Zen 4 is 25%, 30%, etc. IPC over Zen 3? You're so far beyond reason that you reject established facts. Hahahaha. You know what, I change my mind. It was worth the effort to see this spectacle. The stage is all yours.
The only reason that you believe that the chip in question is power limited is that Intel says so. No actual proof. That would be typical of an Intel employee. And I had proof, but it is only maintained on the web for a short time, and you refused to look at it.Yet you posted no such proof, nor was anyone ever able to reproduce it. This all being clearly documented in the thread I linked. The very chip you claimed to have used is power limited to half the number you gave.
So you're seriously insisting that Zen 4 is 25%, 30%, etc. IPC over Zen 3? You're so far beyond reason that you reject established facts. Hahahaha. You know what, I change my mind. It was worth the effort to see this spectacle. The stage is all yours.
Yes, me and all the reviewers living in denial about what you could take 10 seconds to google and confirm. But I think that's enough feeding the trolls for one day. Just becomes sad at some point.You re just living in denial, at the end i ll believe Mark when he said that you re not a regular forumer but rather some stealthy viral marketer...
Yes, me and all the reviewers living in denial about what you could take 10 seconds to google and confirm. But I think that's enough feeding the trolls for one day. Just becomes sad at some point.
They've been at it since Zen3 FYI.Look to me that Zen 4 perform much better than what you hoped for, that s the only way to explain your endless babbling.
Genoa is the best performer in CB and all these benchmarks, only a fool can say otherwise, now found me a single user, pro or amateurish, that use LN2 with his set up, you wont find a single one in the whole earth, guess that you re just showing how rabidly you re some kind of Intel unconditional supporter.
Genoa is the best performer in CB and all these benchmarks
In what universe does using LN2 constitute a REAL world record ? Especially when nobody has used LN2 on Genoa ? The only reason the Intel crowd is using LN2, was because that CPU is such a piece of crap.Sigh... can you please tell me what a World Record is and means?
To my understanding, it meant top record in the world regardless of what means you went to achieve it does it not?
And i am a intel supporter, im also a AMD supporter, and a Nvidia supporter, and heck i even support Apple at times too.
I don't take sides, and always keep that line of neutrality at all times.
So again id like to see some World Records being achieved under any methods used.
Because its not fair when ThreadRipper had it, and flaunted it, and now they lost it, people calling it foul.
Really? until thee who shall not be named broke it on a LN2 bench to get World Record.
Again WORLD RECORD
Or are you denying it?
Please show me where it says on HWBOT : Cinabench R23 Genoa as first place...
Please...
Just wait a bit until Storm Peak (or w/ever SP5/6 Threadrippers are called) and then you'll be able to LN2 pot the thing as well (or someone else will; well most definitely).Especially when nobody has used LN2 on Genoa ?
Or bad information due to echo chamber effect caused by continuous exposure to a highly biased social structure.denial is a symptom of mental illness
REAL world record
In what universe does using LN2 constitute a REAL world record ?
True, but you don't get dual socket Threadrippers so it might be difficult to match the MT performance of a 2S Genoa system.Just wait a bit until Storm Peak (or w/ever SP5/6 Threadrippers are called) and then you'll be able to LN2 pot the thing as well
Decode is the most irrelevant part ever for fat opcache cores and you know it.
Stop being so obnoxiously silly.
Once again, you don't have to be so obtuse.
Well, people working at DCAI are all like you but I digress.
True, but you don't get dual socket Threadrippers so it might be difficult to match the MT performance of a 2S Genoa system.
Sigh... can you please tell me what a World Record is and means?
To my understanding, it meant top record in the world regardless of what means you went to achieve it does it not?
And i am a intel supporter, im also a AMD supporter, and a Nvidia supporter.
I don't take sides, and always keep that line of neutrality at all times.
Eh various XOC leaderboards usually have 1p divisions so it's all gucci still.True, but you don't get dual socket Threadrippers so it might be difficult to match the MT performance of a 2S Genoa system.
Well tell us something dude
96 cores against 60 cores and with comparable IPC, i think that the conclusion doesnt even need more than a fraction of a second to come to the 100% sure conclusion.
hwbot.org
Soo. I posted benchmarks and links to benchmarks that show that at STOCK it wins the world record and using LN2 there is no statististics. Thats not a fair comparison and you know it. And in the real world, it will never use LN2, its just a show that means nothing to 99% of everybody, but you defend it since you think Intel is king. THEY ARE NOT in the server world, get over it !But is that a world record?
Does it claim world record?
Has it been recorded as the world record?
Cinebench - R23 Multi Core with BenchMate overclocking records @ HWBOT
Overclocking recordshwbot.org
Does it satisfy the definition of World Record?
Your claiming "oh data shows..."
Data shows i'll never win the lottery either... but will i stop trying?
Can we just say OK... they don't have the world record, and move on.
This is honestly all i am asking for.
Your insulting the many hours these guys spend trying to get that crown.
I really do not appreciate that, especially when i used to be on that bench table.
This is why i am holding my ground firm on this.
But is that a world record?
Does it claim world record?
Has it been recorded as the world record?
Cinebench - R23 Multi Core with BenchMate overclocking records @ HWBOT
Overclocking recordshwbot.org
Does it satisfy the definition of World Record?
Your claiming "oh data shows..."
Data shows i'll never win the lottery either... but will i stop trying?
Can we just say OK... they don't have the world record, and move on.
This is honestly all i am asking for.
Your insulting the many hours these guys spend trying to get that crown.
I really do not appreciate that, especially when i used to be on that bench table.
This is why i am holding my ground firm on this.
