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666 percent in fact. Threadripper renamed to Soulripper, your soul being the currency you have to pay to obtain one.66% IPC gain!
Best one is the beelink, looking nice and very quiet. But yeah, if they manage to cram a Strix Halo in a 15cmx15cm device, I'd instabuy if it's under 1500€ barebone... Sort of, as I understand there's gonna be soldered memory, no CAMM
The full capability of these 2 extra ALUs was not revealed in the GCC patch which says that multiply is still 1/cycle. When asked about this, AMD told me this error in the GCC patch was intentional to avoid leaking the true capability of Zen5 before they were ready to reveal it.
That would be incredible!The biggest game changer would be if V-Cache covered the whole CPU, and AMD switched to Wafer over Wafer packaging. This would turn V-Cache models into mainstream, high volume parts. Also, covering the whole CPU die could double the V-Cache size
AMD still uses the good 'ol substrate from their K10 MCM days. Their SerDes has been more or less the same since Zen 1. The IF topology is the same since Zen 2. The IF link bandwidth stagnates since Zen 3... :/It would be disappointing if after 4 years, 3rd generation, if AMD still remained stalled at the same place with V-Cache, which is in one of AMD's most promising and differentiating technologies.
It would be nice if TPU added the 9700X configured as 105W TDP (105W cTDP or 142W PPT) to the comparison instead of "PBO maximum" to see the CPU V/F behavior over a wider range. May be some reviewers did that (haven't gone through all the reviews yet).thats what HUB also tweeted
The difference isn’t just the factory-fused voltage-frequency curve, but also the Fmax: CCD0 has a programmed Fmax of 5750 MHz whereas CCD1 has a programmed Fmax of 5450 MHz.
I don’t think anyone can be saltier than Zen3 owners like me, who abstained from upgrading their 5950x because of all the rumors Zen5 would be such a monster and the most exciting dream Mike Clark ever had. I remember thinking “wow a ~40% performance upgrade with Zen4 would be great, but combined with another 32% from Zen5 would be awesome, almost doubling my current performance so I should just wait”
Part of my brain knew it couldn’t be such a big jump 2 generations in a row since Zen4 really knocked it out of the park, and Zen5 would be a similar node. But the stupid neanderthal part of my brain gave in to the rumor hype. I wish I could take a time machine back and buy a 7950x on launch
From a pure techie perspective though the new architecture is exciting, and I’m interested to see what it can do with the memory bw uncorked (Turin, STX Halo, Zen5 Threadripper if there is one) and we’ll see regarding the X3D chips but my expectations are pretty low
The biggest change would be if V-cache covered the whole motherboard 😁The biggest game changer would be if V-Cache covered the whole CPU, and AMD switched to Wafer over Wafer packaging. This would turn V-Cache models into mainstream, high volume parts. Also, covering the whole CPU die could double the V-Cache size.
I'm not expecting anything fancy, already 2nd gen Vcache was a lot better than 1st gen. It's probably a few extra percent, 2-3% tops. Already the amount of cycles lost by using V cache was tiny, I think someone mentioned just 3-4 cycles. There's just not a massive headroom there IMO.
Was always going to be the case with games tbh. X3D has made the vanilla chips obsolete for the public that uses PCs for browsing and gaming (i.e. most of the population)Looks like techpowerup had the same results in gaming. Applications benefit from the lower TDP much more than games with Zen5. Pack your bags gamers and hop on next train to Zen5 X3D.
Please don't, this thread is aneurysm-inducing enough.Soo... hype train back on tracks?
for some , sureSoo... hype train back on tracks?
Think i already responded on discord about this, but with +200mhz offset your at 5950/5650mhzFrom Scatterbencher OC guide, another very weird decision of AMD that complicates non-static OC:
Soo... hype train back on tracks?
PC World delayed their review because of unexpected multi-core performance when compared to single core gainsThe interesting thing is that there are multiple reviews now that calls the 9600X the best budget gaming cpu. Its weird how some reviewers are calling the release a flop. According to some, AMD will have the best value gaming cpu and once the X3D parts arrive, the best gaming cpu bar none.
In single threaded situations? how so? In any case, you know that this affects whole curve altogether so it just needlessly complicates tuning - why even implement such a limit if in 'normal' circumstances it is never reached by CCD1 (unless you bclk oc and the cpu crashes in idle). As I tried to explain in Discord, if your ccd1 is bad, this differential in fmax creates issues (for me), but we'll see I guess. Not that'd use boost system if fixed OC was available with x3d, something like 5.5 ghz at 1.2v ish would suite me just fine.You will pretty much never hit these PBO clockspeeds without LN2, so this is not a clockspeed limitation for 99.9% of the user
