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Looking at the lower temps of Zen 5 compared to Zen 4, I bet that "interesting part" is just lower frequency gap between vanilla and x3d parts.At this point my biggest worry is that AMD already hyped up Zen5 vcache a bit saying it had some “interesting” features
Based on what we’ve seen so far of the core I’d expect it to have even more uplift than Zen4X3D vs Zen4, but if we apply the “reverse marketing lingo” filter, “interesting” doesn’t sound too good….
STX looks like a decent purchase for webdevs honestly. Improved battery life, good browser and node.js performance.In any case, this is it then. A 70mm², decent density, power efficiency oriented, productivity monster Zen 5 with fairly crappy gaming performance. That's the end result of our forever waiting.
Well, it's both good and completely meh. Server lads will absolutely buy it in infinity quantity, and I'm really eager to see if the microcode updates can somehow get better results out of their relatively poor performance.
The best thing about Zen 5 will be Turin. A true cloud chip.
I've been restraining from buying one of those tiny cheapo Zen 3 mini PCs for months despite the click finger itching so bad.STX looks like a decent purchase for webdevs honestly. Improved battery life, good browser and node.js performance.
Any info on how they ended up with that atrocious latency though? Someone pointed out that it's somehow worse than Zen freaking 2.I think and still do that STX Halo is the best thing to come out Zen5 family. Zen5 core is no longer stuck to dual channel but quad channel for client and yeah RAM is soldered but its fast RAM.
no Zen5C cores on STX halo? Its all P cores.Any info on how they ended up with that atrocious latency though? Someone pointed out that it's somehow worse than Zen freaking 2.
It is. The only thing in the entire lineup with a non-cope memory subsystem lolI think and still do that STX Halo is the best thing to come out Zen5 family. Zen5 core is no longer stuck to dual channel but quad channel for client and yeah RAM is soldered but its fast RAM.
Oh I read it as "STX Point", weird phrasing to say " is the best thing" when it hasn't come out yet. Nevermind then.no Zen5C cores on STX halo? Its all P cores.
sorry, I time travelled a bit there.Oh I read it as "STX Point", weird phrasing to say " is the best thing" when it hasn't come out yet. Nevermind then.
40% ahead of the present time.Truly the Zen 5 Hype Train and its legendary time travel abilities.
MinisForum has a brand new MiniPC using HawkPoint CPU, and adds some nice IO features.I've been restraining from buying one of those tiny cheapo Zen 3 mini PCs for months despite the click finger itching so bad.
6 Zen 3 cores, 32Go RAM, crappy quality but a lot better than a raspberry Pi, perfect for a home server.
My ultimate copium is that when Kraken will come out, 8 Z5 cores at low as heck power will be much better for web.
AMD, you better vindicate my copium to the max. Even on that Samsung lithography.
Any info on how they ended up with that atrocious latency though? Someone pointed out that it's somehow worse than Zen freaking 2.
Sure but it's the inter-CCX latency that is truly abysmal.Isn't it using LPRDDR? That isn't great latency wise.
It's almost like AMD has decided the non-3D is for productivity and the 3D is for gaming.....
The interesting thing is that there are multiple reviews now that calls the 9600X the best budget gaming cpu. Its weird how some reviewers are calling the release a flop. According to some, AMD will have the best value gaming cpu and once the X3D parts arrive, the best gaming cpu bar none.Maybe AMD is simply acknowledging that the 3D vcache models are the gaming CPUs and non are primarily work focused.
I think and still do that STX Halo is the best thing to come out Zen5 family. Zen5 core is no longer stuck to dual channel but quad channel for client and yeah RAM is soldered but its fast RAM.
thats what HUB also tweeted.
Now reading through so might be repeating.
Will be interesting to see how Strix Halo with it's 256b memory bus work on CPU tasks?
Yes, and some of the ones they throw at desktop CPUs are hella obscure with peculiar performance profiles. You really have to know your stuff to read a full Phoronix review of a desktop CPU and understand what information is on display. Their server CPU tests are much more concise.
Every time I open the thread this sentence comes up in one shape or another.Zen 5 is a crazy good server core and thats where AMD's focus is
There were rumours that V-cache in Ryzen 9000X3D is different.
At this point my biggest worry is that AMD already hyped up Zen5 vcache a bit saying it had some “interesting” features
Based on what we’ve seen so far of the core I’d expect it to have even more uplift than Zen4X3D vs Zen4, but if we apply the “reverse marketing lingo” filter, “interesting” doesn’t sound too good….
Best one is the beelink, looking nice and very quiet. But yeah, if they manage to cram a Strix Halo in a 15cmx15cm device, I'd instabuy if it's under 1500€ barebone... Sort of, as I understand there's gonna be soldered memory, no CAMMMinisForum has a brand new MiniPC using HawkPoint CPU, and adds some nice IO features.
The advantage of HawkPoint vs. either StrixPoint or Kraken is that it has 8 full cores and there is no need for Windows 11 for improved scheduling of dense cores.
