Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

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Gideon

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OOOF. Havent seen such reviews in a while



And 0 improvement in the memory controller for higher clocks (according to HW Unboxed)
 

Philste

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So basically it looks ok compared to previous gen X-SKUs, because ist more efficient. But if you compare it to real predecessors, it's complete garbage. Like 10% more efficient, 15% faster in Applications and barely faster in Gaming.
 

Timorous

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Unless AMD double the v-cache on the 9800X3D I don't see that being better than the 7800X3D with these results, maybe a few% if it can hold higher clocks relative to the 9700X than the 7800X3D manages relative to the 7700X.

For gaming this is just really poor.
 
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CouncilorIrissa

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So basically it looks ok compared to previous gen X-SKUs, because ist more efficient. But if you compare it to real predecessors, it's complete garbage. Like 10% more efficient, 15% faster in Applications and barely faster in Gaming.
Oh, it gets so much worse than that when you take the increase in core area into account.
 

CouncilorIrissa

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Turns out it really is a "bulldozer moment" somewhat.
Years of expectation, huge changes to the architecture, negative IPC slower than previous gen, only performs well under specific right circumstances (at least power is good), gives time to the competition to breath and strike back with calm.

Make me fear that Zen 6 and Zen 7 will be Piledrivers and Steamrollers.

Zen 6 likely will, Zen 7 is a bit of an unknown given that it's developed by a different team.
 

MarkPost

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TDP (PPT) was reduced. So you're getting the same performance at a lower power level. If you increase the power level to the same settings as 7000 series you will see gains. Is it enough to justify the price difference? Only each user can answer that.

yeah, thats the key

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With these SKUs at stock (9600X, 9700X and 9900X), you'll have only a little better perfomance, but with a lot less power consumption. If you want to see good gains, crank up PPT.