Zeitgeist the Movie

[Scouzer]

Interesting. I will reserve most of my thoughts on this for everyone's counterpoints on here...but it's certainly interesting.

The whole discussion at the start about religion leads into modern events quickly, so bear with it. I think it's interesting how all the religions of the world are so closely intertwined, even if they're a scam or not.

I'm really not pleased about the North American Union stuff at the end. I don't support anything of that nature whatsoever.

This is more or less another Loose Change type movie with a much broader scope. It's less of a stretch, I think, than Loose Change about a lot of the conspiracy connections.

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Two hours. Enjoy. It's the middle of the night.

If it's a repost, sorry, link to it and lock this.

CLIFFS/OVERVIEW:

History of Christianity and why he believes it's a ripoff
History of the US Revolution leading to Bankers and rich families controlling the USA
History of The Federal Reserve - Why it's a sham
History of Crashes/Booms in US History - Caused by big banks and the reserve itself
History of Wars and who wants them - Big Business and Big Banks
Modern Day - The usual 9/11 stuff
Tomorrow - Globalization

 

[Scouzer]

Wow, no thoughts AT ALL?

The intro sucks, yes, but the movie is quite interesting.

They start talking at five minutes. Skip to that, you won't miss anything...

 

[Oil]

Originally posted by: Scouzer
Wow, no thoughts AT ALL?

Because its a repost

 

[Scouzer]

Originally posted by: OSx86

Originally posted by: Scouzer
Wow, no thoughts AT ALL?

Because its a repost

Link to original thread? I searched. I'd like to read everyones thoughts...

 

[Oil]

Originally posted by: Scouzer

Originally posted by: OSx86

Originally posted by: Scouzer
Wow, no thoughts AT ALL?

Because its a repost

Link to original thread? I searched. I'd like to read everyones thoughts...

Here but its from OT so its actually not a repost

 

[Narmer]

I saw this and was going to post a question regarding the plane that hit the Pentagon. How come there are no pictures or videos of it happening? In the documentary, it says the FBI confiscated all of them. WHy would they do that? Is it because there was no such incident?

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Narmer
I saw this and was going to post a question regarding the plane that hit the Pentagon. How come there are no pictures or videos of it happening? In the documentary, it says the FBI confiscated all of them. WHy would they do that? Is it because there was no such incident?

Still shots of a security video of the plane hitting the pentagon was released months ago. Why they were confiscated who knows. Must be because our inept government staged a massive conspiracy involving thousands of people in multiple branches of government and no one has yet come forward about it. They can do that. They're the goverment.

Back to planet earth.

 

[Scouzer]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Narmer
I saw this and was going to post a question regarding the plane that hit the Pentagon. How come there are no pictures or videos of it happening? In the documentary, it says the FBI confiscated all of them. WHy would they do that? Is it because there was no such incident?

Still shots of a security video of the plane hitting the pentagon was released months ago. Why they were confiscated who knows. Must be because our inept government staged a massive conspiracy involving thousands of people in multiple branches of government and no one has yet come forward about it. They can do that. They're the goverment.

Back to planet earth.

CIA can...there are a lot of incidents in history, big incidents, that have some proof they were involved but not enough to make the public believe it

 

[yobarman]

I watched the whole thing a couple weeks ago. The religion stuff is great, the 9/11 stuff was good too, but the important stuff was in Part III.

If you want to sit through the whole thing, Part 3 is really the only part you need to WAKE UP: http://video.google.com/videop...cid=497251819335380093

 

[JEDIYoda]

You gotta love conspiracy theories..

 

[yobarman]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
You gotta love conspiracy theories..

You gotta like throwing away 20% of your income to banks. You know the Federal Reserve is a private organization right?

 

[HombrePequeno]

Originally posted by: Scouzer

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Narmer
I saw this and was going to post a question regarding the plane that hit the Pentagon. How come there are no pictures or videos of it happening? In the documentary, it says the FBI confiscated all of them. WHy would they do that? Is it because there was no such incident?

Still shots of a security video of the plane hitting the pentagon was released months ago. Why they were confiscated who knows. Must be because our inept government staged a massive conspiracy involving thousands of people in multiple branches of government and no one has yet come forward about it. They can do that. They're the goverment.

Back to planet earth.

CIA can...there are a lot of incidents in history, big incidents, that have some proof they were involved but not enough to make the public believe it

The CIA can't even pull off a coup in another country without it coming to light that they were behind it. There is no way in hell they could pull off 9/11 without someone coming forward.

Originally posted by: yobarman

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
You gotta love conspiracy theories..

You gotta like throwing away 20% of your income to banks. You know the Federal Reserve is a private organization right?

It's an organization made up mostly of publicly traded banks that has oversight by the US government. Do you really want complete control of the money supply by the US government? Countries that allow a high degree of control of the money supply by the government tend to be plagued with inflation.

But go ahead, keep your money under your pillow to avoid the evil banks. That really is a great place for it.

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno

Originally posted by: Scouzer

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Narmer
I saw this and was going to post a question regarding the plane that hit the Pentagon. How come there are no pictures or videos of it happening? In the documentary, it says the FBI confiscated all of them. WHy would they do that? Is it because there was no such incident?

Still shots of a security video of the plane hitting the pentagon was released months ago. Why they were confiscated who knows. Must be because our inept government staged a massive conspiracy involving thousands of people in multiple branches of government and no one has yet come forward about it. They can do that. They're the goverment.

Back to planet earth.

CIA can...there are a lot of incidents in history, big incidents, that have some proof they were involved but not enough to make the public believe it

The CIA can't even pull off a coup in another country without it coming to light that they were behind it. There is no way in hell they could pull off 9/11 without someone coming forward.

Originally posted by: yobarman

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
You gotta love conspiracy theories..

You gotta like throwing away 20% of your income to banks. You know the Federal Reserve is a private organization right?

It's an organization made up mostly of publicly traded banks that has oversight by the US government. Do you really want complete control of the money supply by the US government? Countries that allow a high degree of control of the money supply by the government tend to be plagued with inflation.

But go ahead, keep your money under your pillow to avoid the evil banks. That really is a great place for it.

You make a good point. But I just wished it was in the hands of some independent, not for profit organization.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Narmer
I saw this and was going to post a question regarding the plane that hit the Pentagon. How come there are no pictures or videos of it happening? In the documentary, it says the FBI confiscated all of them. WHy would they do that? Is it because there was no such incident?

Video of plane hitting Pentagon
Video of Plane hitting a concret wall at 500 MPH, there is NOTHING left of the plane.
Video of Pentagon crash from Hotel cam

 

[KAZANI]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Video of plane hitting Pentagon
Video of Plane hitting a concret wall at 500 MPH, there is NOTHING left of the plane.
Video of Pentagon crash from Hotel cam

I really try to see a plane in those videos and I can't. The only object moving is in the first video and if it is a large commercial airplane how can it fly so close to the ground at that speed? It makes even less sense when you consider the fact that the pilot, Hani Hanjour, was barely able to steer a puny Cesna at flight school.

By the way that crash test video had an F4 fighter which is much smaller than the alleged pentagon airliner.

 

[KAZANI]

Oh and one more thing: Why doesn't the government release footage from the rest of the surveillance cameras? That building had plenty of cameras...loads of cameras actually. Do you honestly believe no other camera has footage?

 

[KAZANI]

On topic:

Watched this documentary last night. What I found most interesting was the analysis on war profiteering. Does anyone have a link to a reliable source on the Lyndon Johnson's lift of trade restrictions with the USSR during the Vietnam carnage, in 1966? I can't find any myself.

 

[jbass]

This documentary is quite an eye-opener. Although there are a few spots where truths are stretched a bit and that really stinks because it makes people want to discredit the rest of the film. I was gripped through the entire show. I enjoyed the first section about religion. I knew previously that Christianity stole much of its rituals and beliefs from Pagan religions, but I didn't realize exactly how much was stolen. I did have a very hard time chasing down more information on the connection between Horus and Jesus. There is just no supporting documentation for many of the comparisons they make (at least I have not found any yet).

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Narmer
I saw this and was going to post a question regarding the plane that hit the Pentagon. How come there are no pictures or videos of it happening? In the documentary, it says the FBI confiscated all of them. WHy would they do that? Is it because there was no such incident?

Video of plane hitting Pentagon
Video of Plane hitting a concret wall at 500 MPH, there is NOTHING left of the plane.
Video of Pentagon crash from Hotel cam

That's the best they got? Granted I watched the second plane hit the WTC, but this is garbage video. I smell something fishy. That does not look like no plane to me. Looks like a setup.

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: jbass
This documentary is quite an eye-opener. Although there are a few spots where truths are stretched a bit and that really stinks because it makes people want to discredit the rest of the film. I was gripped through the entire show. I enjoyed the first section about religion. I knew previously that Christianity stole much of its rituals and beliefs from Pagan religions, but I didn't realize exactly how much was stolen. I did have a very hard time chasing down more information on the connection between Horus and Jesus. There is just no supporting documentation for many of the comparisons they make (at least I have not found any yet).

Why do people call it "pagain". You're disrespecting the people that believe in those religions.

 

[glenn beck]

my VP of my company lost his parents in the flight into the Pentagon, kind of hard to fake your parents death like that, pretty sure he has no oil ties, he
doesn't make that much

 

[KAZANI]

Originally posted by: glenn beck
my VP of my company lost his parents in the flight into the Pentagon, kind of hard to fake your parents death like that, pretty sure he has no oil ties, he
doesn't make that much

Who said that the passengers are alive? Keep your punches above the waist line please.

 

[yobarman]

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno

Originally posted by: yobarman

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
You gotta love conspiracy theories..

You gotta like throwing away 20% of your income to banks. You know the Federal Reserve is a private organization right?

It's an organization made up mostly of publicly traded banks that has oversight by the US government. Do you really want complete control of the money supply by the US government? Countries that allow a high degree of control of the money supply by the government tend to be plagued with inflation.

But go ahead, keep your money under your pillow to avoid the evil banks. That really is a great place for it.

I have no problem with banks really, but I do have a problem with a private organization printing our nation's money and making citizen's pay interest on it. Inflation is bad enough already, and the Fed is printing money just as fast as our gov't could. Why can't we just skip the middle man, that coincidently is accountable to no one?

?I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of our currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and the corporations that will grow up around (the banks) will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.? - Thomas Jefferson

Money, Banking, and the Federal Reserve

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: KAZANI

Originally posted by: glenn beck
my VP of my company lost his parents in the flight into the Pentagon, kind of hard to fake your parents death like that, pretty sure he has no oil ties, he
doesn't make that much

Who said that the passengers are alive? Keep your punches above the waist line please.

So what exactly happened? They took the air plane and killed everyone on board?
And then launched a missle or something into the Pentagon?

What about the Plane in Penn. No one saw it crash and there is no video of it at all.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Narmer
I saw this and was going to post a question regarding the plane that hit the Pentagon. How come there are no pictures or videos of it happening? In the documentary, it says the FBI confiscated all of them. WHy would they do that? Is it because there was no such incident?

Video of plane hitting Pentagon
Video of Plane hitting a concret wall at 500 MPH, there is NOTHING left of the plane.
Video of Pentagon crash from Hotel cam

That's the best they got? Granted I watched the second plane hit the WTC, but this is garbage video. I smell something fishy. That does not look like no plane to me. Looks like a setup.

:laugh: They (the middle eastern gentlemen - not CIA spooks) used planes for everything else but the Pentagon HAD to be a missile huh? Kooky...