zalman throws hat into gpu aib ring

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WelshBloke

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Zalman used to have some decent after market cooling systems. Be interesting to see what they come up with.
 
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So they screw BFG a known good quality AIB saying they dont need anymore AIB's and that they are all good with who they have now.

And now with the VERY NEXT series of GPU's they all of a sudden sign a completly unknown in the AIB world company. Yeah thats some shady business practices right there.

EDIT, this is even worse, i thought this was for the 7xxx series, now they signed Zalman to sell the exact same products they denied to BFG, a quality company with years of experience.
Wow thats pretty bad.

On the bright side I'll bet the coolers on these cards will kick ass.
 
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Rifter said:
So they screw BFG a known good quality AIB saying they dont need anymore AIB's and that they are all good with who they have now.

And now with the VERY NEXT series of GPU's they all of a sudden sign a completly unknown in the AIB world company. Yeah thats some shady business practices right there.

EDIT, this is even worse, i thought this was for the 7xxx series, now they signed Zalman to sell the exact same products they denied to BFG, a quality company with years of experience.
Wow thats pretty bad.

On the bright side I'll bet the coolers on these cards will kick ass.
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For all we know AMD approached BFG before and were turned down, and when BFG were about to go under they tried signing a deal with AMD and AMD just said "too late pal, you had your chance."
 
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Skurge said:
For all we know AMD approached BFG before and were turned down, and when BFG were about to go under they tried signing a deal with AMD and AMD just said "too late pal, you had your chance."
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That is possible. Just looks like a total dick move on AMD's part, not that that surprises me with the BS they have pulled over the last 2 years.

Either way im actually hoping zalman does get access to 7xxx right away with some wicked coolers.
 
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Rifter said:
So they screw BFG a known good quality AIB saying they dont need anymore AIB's and that they are all good with who they have now.

And now with the VERY NEXT series of GPU's they all of a sudden sign a completly unknown in the AIB world company. Yeah thats some shady business practices right there.

EDIT, this is even worse, i thought this was for the 7xxx series, now they signed Zalman to sell the exact same products they denied to BFG, a quality company with years of experience.
Wow thats pretty bad.

On the bright side I'll bet the coolers on these cards will kick ass.
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If BGF were so awesome why did they go out of business?
 
Will Robinson

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That is possible. Just looks like a total dick move on AMD's part, not that that surprises me with the BS they have pulled over the last 2 years.


Either way im actually hoping zalman does get access to 7xxx right away with some wicked coolers.
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What the hell are you talking about or is that just a blind green team response to a post about AMD?:confused:
 
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Will Robinson said:
What the hell are you talking about or is that just a blind green team response to a post about AMD?:confused:
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Do you have reading comprehension issues?

BFG approches AMD to be AIB for 6xxx series, AMD tells them no they dont need anymore AIB. Zalman approces AMD to be AIB for 6xxx series and AMD says yes. IMO thats a dick move to shaft a known quality company to go with a unknown company.
 
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It really feels weirdly timed as well. 7900 cards are right around the corner and zalman is starting to sell 6xxx series cards?

Also, I don't care in general. Zalman makes some great coolers, but I can't see it being all that profitable of an adventure. They should rather step up their game in the markets they are already invested in or follow the route of corsair. The AIB market just seems like it would have such thin margins that unless you were already in the market, it wouldn't be worth entering.
 
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Rifter said:
Do you have reading comprehension issues?

BFG approches AMD to be AIB for 6xxx series, AMD tells them no they dont need anymore AIB. Zalman approces AMD to be AIB for 6xxx series and AMD says yes. IMO thats a dick move to shaft a known quality company to go with a unknown company.
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Maybe nVidia should have taken care of it's AIBs. BFG didn't go down because AMD where being dicks. If they went down they were doing something wrong or weren't doing something right. Companies like EVGA are still around.
 
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Skurge said:
Maybe nVidia should have taken care of it's AIBs. BFG didn't go down because AMD where being dicks. If they went down they were doing something wrong or weren't doing something right. Companies like EVGA are still around.
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I agree it wasnt AMD's fault BFG went down, all im saying is it was a dick move to lie to BFG saying we dont need anymore AIB's just to turn around and sign another one.
 
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I agree it wasnt AMD's fault BFG went down, all im saying is it was a dick move to lie to BFG saying we dont need anymore AIB's just to turn around and sign another one.
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Dude. Give it up. You were presumably NOT in the room with them during negotiations. Maybe they just couldn't agree to a deal in time, maybe BFG had an unreasonable demand, who knows?

Further, the tech industry moves very quickly, and the BFG thing was a long time ago. Circumstances change. Maybe if BFG were still around and asked again, AMD would let them in. Or maybe not. Maybe AMD was about to say "no" to Zalman as well, until Zalman cut them a big check to buy their way in. We'll never know.

So please stop casting aspersions on companies when you have no idea what really happened, and especially since there was such a large time gap between then and now.
 
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sandorski said:
2 years is a longtime.
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normally i would agree but they havent even released a series of card since then, so there demand for AIB's is unchanged. Especially since Nvidia has been gainging marketshare back over the last 2 years. Obviously the just didnt want to work with BFG for whatever reason, and they could have told them that, instead they told them we dont need more AIB's and then signed another one anyways.

After reading more into this it doesnt even seem Zalman is using custom coolers and is asking a fairly high price compared to the other AIB's. So i hope they have a differnt plan that using a basic design and charging high end prices or they are not going to last long.
 
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blastingcap said:
Dude. Give it up. You were presumably NOT in the room with them during negotiations. Maybe they just couldn't agree to a deal in time, maybe BFG had an unreasonable demand, who knows?

Further, the tech industry moves very quickly, and the BFG thing was a long time ago. Circumstances change. Maybe if BFG were still around and asked again, AMD would let them in. Or maybe not. Maybe AMD was about to say "no" to Zalman as well, until Zalman cut them a big check to buy their way in. We'll never know.

So please stop casting aspersions on companies when you have no idea what really happened, and especially since there was such a large time gap between then and now.
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You are right i wasnt there and am just going off what was reported in the media. So while it appears it was a dick move, it could have been something else. I guess we will never really know.

It wouldnt surprise me if zalman cut a huge check to get on the AIB bus because of there basic looking cards and high end prices, from what has been reported so far anyways it seems like they are going to try and milk this for some quick cash and are not going to go low profit per card but with high volume.
 
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You are right i wasnt there and am just going off what was reported in the media. So while it appears it was a dick move, it could have been something else. I guess we will never really know.
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Why would it be a good business decision to partner up with some one who is on shaky ground and might be going under any time?
 
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Pantalaimon said:
Why would it be a good business decision to partner up with some one who is on shaky ground and might be going under any time?
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Because at least they had a proven history and made a quality product. Its not any smarter to go with someone who has never made a video card before.
 
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Will Robinson said:
What the hell are you talking about or is that just a blind green team response to a post about AMD?:confused:
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LOLOL

Can anyone mention AMD in a bad light without you jumping down their throat about being an Nvidia fanboy? Give it a rest already...
 
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