ZALMAN 7000Cu Vs. XP-90

Clindst

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I just ordered my MSI Neo2 Plat mobo and a Zalman 7700 and realized that the 7700 is not compatible with my motherboard. So now im on a hunt for a new Heatsink. I plan to overclock my 3200+ as much as possible with air cooling and the reason I got the 7700 was because of its awesome cooling plus it was quiet (a must for my system) Now I need to know what is the best heatsink for the MSI Neo2Plat? Is it the Zalman 7000 with its own zalman fan or the XP-90 with the Silent Cat 9 fan which moves 52CFM at only 21db? Which would you get and which is quieter. Also please feel free to suggest and other options as long as it is somewhat quiet. I remember someone mentioning the CoolerMaster Hyper 6 i think its called...how does that compare to the above options? I know a lot of heatsinks are shipping without fans these days so i think its safe to assume that I will be using the Silent Cat 9 92mm fan on anytihng that doesnt come with a fan. The Silent Cat 9 is the best quiet fan with high CFM right? Thanks guys! Ive been out of the loop for a while so please bring me up to date.
 

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Originally posted by: klah
The Silent Cat 9 is the best quiet fan with high CFM right?
That fan is far from quiet, and the specs TT uses are bogus. It is a rebadged Panasonic FBL09A12U1A rated at 47db(A).

There are plenty of fans that are actually quiet here: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article63-page2.html

You can see the XP-90 tested with several fans compared to the Zalman 7000 here: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article194-page1.html

Not sure if it makes a big difference but why didn't they use the all copper version of the 7000B rather than the AlCu?
 

Neptune3000

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I have the fan of which you speak!!


And here is what I say(someone who has teh fan):

At first i thought it SUCKED, it twas quite LOUD...but not as loud as stock fan. Then I realizded something, it was set to 125% fan speed!!!

Afte realizing I set the controller to Auto and I cannot hear a THING!!! SO silent, its scary. Additionally, it cools just as well.



So, in order to get it ot be quiet, you have to turn down teh speed....liek most fans....so it prolly does'nt matter
 

Operandi

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There was a post asking this exact question literally 2-3 days ago, learn the search feature.....

I agree with klah those specs are compactly meaningless, as are the specs on ever Tt fan I've seen.

Neptune3000, 125% isn't possible.
 

boatillo

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If you are ok with the massive weight of the pure copper cnps7000 then running it is supposed to decrease temps like 3-5degrees C over using just the Al-Cu version (according to the Zalman website)
 

Algere

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Originally posted by: boatillo
If you are ok with the massive weight of the pure copper cnps7000 then running it is supposed to decrease temps like 3-5degrees C over using just the Al-Cu version (according to the Zalman website)

According to SPCR the AlCu version cools better. Although they also say.

"They are essentially indistinguishable in performance with the P4-2.53 in this ambient as well. Certainly, the Zalman 7000 HSF has no problem cooling a P4-2.53 even at minimal fan speed settings. One suspects that with the very hottest CPUs or with higher ambient temperatures in a system installed normally inside a case, the copper version would perform better that the AlCu, especially with the fan at low speed."
 

mrscintilla

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So, why didn't 7700 fit with Neo2 Platinum? Is it because it will block the AGP card and/or the Dimm1 slot?
Speak of latter, will putting DDR into Dimm2 hurt performance at all?



Originally posted by: Clindst
I just ordered my MSI Neo2 Plat mobo and a Zalman 7700 and realized that the 7700 is not compatible with my motherboard. So now im on a hunt for a new Heatsink. I plan to overclock my 3200+ as much as possible with air cooling and the reason I got the 7700 was because of its awesome cooling plus it was quiet (a must for my system) Now I need to know what is the best heatsink for the MSI Neo2Plat? Is it the Zalman 7000 with its own zalman fan or the XP-90 with the Silent Cat 9 fan which moves 52CFM at only 21db? Which would you get and which is quieter. Also please feel free to suggest and other options as long as it is somewhat quiet. I remember someone mentioning the CoolerMaster Hyper 6 i think its called...how does that compare to the above options? I know a lot of heatsinks are shipping without fans these days so i think its safe to assume that I will be using the Silent Cat 9 92mm fan on anytihng that doesnt come with a fan. The Silent Cat 9 is the best quiet fan with high CFM right? Thanks guys! Ive been out of the loop for a while so please bring me up to date.

 

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Again -- this TT fan thing comes up. I've had nearly a dozen of those things -- 80mm, 92mm, 120mm -- in about six different computers -- about 2/3 of them still in place -- all monitored by both mobo/software and front-panel controller. If there is something wrong with the specs, it is entirely limited to the noise-levels in dB/A, because the rpms and CFMs come in within or above specs, every . . . single . . . time.

On the 80mm fans, the noise-level includes a motor-whine on the smaller fans -- less or no motor-whine on the 92mm ones -- very slight motor whine on the 120's only at their top end speed in a 400-rpm-range.

Of course they're going to make more noise -- when they're set up to move a lot of air. You can tune them down to the speeds of a Panaflo and get noise-levels like a Panaflo.
 

Operandi

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Originally posted by: Neptune3000
Originally posted by: Operandi
There was a post asking this exact question literally 2-3 days ago, learn the search feature.....

I agree with klah those specs are compactly meaningless, as are the specs on ever Tt fan I've seen.

Neptune3000, 125% isn't possible.



http://img.photobucket.com/alb...0/Neptune755/fanny.jpg

u were saying?


that's w/ the DFI smart guardian u can ask someone here to confirm...

HEH

The only way to run a fan past 100% is to give it more the 12v which I don't think is possible.

Originally posted by: BonzaiDuck
Again -- this TT fan thing comes up. I've had nearly a dozen of those things -- 80mm, 92mm, 120mm -- in about six different computers -- about 2/3 of them still in place -- all monitored by both mobo/software and front-panel controller. If there is something wrong with the specs, it is entirely limited to the noise-levels in dB/A, because the rpms and CFMs come in within or above specs, every . . . single . . . time.

On the 80mm fans, the noise-level includes a motor-whine on the smaller fans -- less or no motor-whine on the 92mm ones -- very slight motor whine on the 120's only at their top end speed in a 400-rpm-range.

Of course they're going to make more noise -- when they're set up to move a lot of air. You can tune them down to the speeds of a Panaflo and get noise-levels like a Panaflo.

I don't know about the RPM to CFM that doesn?t concern me nearly as much as the CFM to dBA ratio's which are complete non-sense. Look at the results for this Tt Silent Boost test; Tt claims 21 dBA, it tested in at 40, whoops. The fan on the Silent Boost is supposed to be based on a Panaflow M1A which Panaflow rates at 28 dBa, not 21. See the problem here? and its just not isolated to the Silent Boost.....

You also can't just drop a fan down to the speed of a Panalfow end expect it to sound the same. A fan has have quiet motor and bearing system for it to be low noise, balance is also an issue.
 

toNka64

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"The fan on the Silent Boost is supposed to be based on a Panaflow M1A which Panaflow rates at 28 dBa, not 21."

well...
take this into consideration,
the panaflow has a full frame, the Tt does not.
That open design helps airflow to decrease sound.
Now a difference of 7dBa, i dont know about that.
But it is not exactly apples to apples.
I run my Silent Boost at 5v all the time.
And its very quiet.
I would not recomend gaming or other cpu intensive stuff at 5v though.
Just crank it back upto 12v when gaming.
Not like you'll be able to hear it over your speakers anyways.
But to answer the overall question, Zalmans are great!
Just make sure they fit your motherboard first!
 

Operandi

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Originally posted by: toNka64
"The fan on the Silent Boost is supposed to be based on a Panaflow M1A which Panaflow rates at 28 dBa, not 21."

well...
take this into consideration,
the panaflow has a full frame, the Tt does not.
That open design helps airflow to decrease sound.
Now a difference of 7dBa, i dont know about that.
But it is not exactly apples to apples.
I run my Silent Boost at 5v all the time.
And its very quiet.
I would not recomend gaming or other cpu intensive stuff at 5v though.
Just crank it back upto 12v when gaming.
Not like you'll be able to hear it over your speakers anyways.
But to answer the overall question, Zalmans are great!
Just make sure they fit your motherboard first!

That "open area" is useless, those fans have been tested against a similar spec'd Panaflow; the Panaflow moved more air and did so with less noise.