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z77 vs x79 new build

yodapwnedjoo

Junior Member
Im looking to build a new pc in the coming months. and i can not decide between a 2011 sandybridge-e or ivy/sandy z77 build.
the most common argument against 2011 is cost vs performance.
however the costs are not that far apart.

The main reason I am considering 2011 is because it has at least 1 cpu upgrade(ivy-e) in its future while 1155 is now eol after ivy.
Parts i will be using for build are:
1x nvidia 680
16 gigs ram
120gig ssd
500gb hd
2tb hd.
h100 cpu cooler
ax850psw

z77 $575
ASUS P8Z77-V http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131819
3770K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116501

2011 $630
ASUS P9X79 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131800
3820 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115229

I will be using 4x4gb 1866 corsair for either build, so that cost is the same.

So my question Basically is does anyone think that its worth an extra $50 to have a slightly slower, But more future proof rig?
 
why the hell would you pay for 4x4Gb 1866 when you can get 2x8GB 1333 for less? (with only ~2% performance difference)

Besides that sandybridge-e would be fine.
 
What's the purpose of this machine? Given the GTX 680, I'm going to assume gaming.

Sure, the costs aren't that far apart when you pick ridiculous hyperthreaded processors and $225 motherboards. They are pretty far apart when you get something with better bang for the buck like a $250 i5 3570K and a $135 ASRock Z77 Extreme4 totaling $385.

The "upgrade path" argument is also invalid because IVB-E is just going to be getting 2011 up to the level that 1155 is at today.
 
The main purpose for the comp will be gaming.

I tend to keep my machines for 3 yrs with only a vid card update in between new builds.
And I want a hyper threading enabled cpu because some games show a good improvement with it enabled. bf3 mainly in multi 64 player matches.
Also i feel it may let me hold out on a future upgrade later on. ( not sure on this)

I will be overclocking either cpu to its max.

already have the 1866 memory , got a good deal on it.
 
A 3770k should out perform the 2011 in most situations unless you need the two extra cores. The biggest advantage of 2011 to me is that you can go with 64GB of ram.
 
The main purpose for the comp will be gaming.

I tend to keep my machines for 3 yrs with only a vid card update in between new builds.
And I want a hyper threading enabled cpu because some games show a good improvement with it enabled. bf3 mainly in multi 64 player matches.
Also i feel it may let me hold out on a future upgrade later on. ( not sure on this)

I will be overclocking either cpu to its max.

already have the 1866 memory , got a good deal on it.

Whether or not you see some improvement with HT doesn't have anything to do whether or not it is worth it. You will never see a 50% improvement, which is what you would have to get to make it worth the cost. It's a waste of money.
 
A 3820 at best keeps up or trades blow with 3820. It isn't competition for 3770k, though the difference may not be huge. If you want 2011, go for 3930k, else forget it.
 
Whether or not you see some improvement with HT doesn't have anything to do whether or not it is worth it. You will never see a 50% improvement, which is what you would have to get to make it worth the cost. It's a waste of money.

Not really.

I for instance would spend an additional $100+ on a CPU if I sometimes get 10% better gaming performance. I don't need 50% performance for $100, 10% is more than enough.

It depends on him.
 
Im looking to build a new pc in the coming months. and i can not decide between a 2011 sandybridge-e or ivy/sandy z77 build.
the most common argument against 2011 is cost vs performance.
however the costs are not that far apart.

The main reason I am considering 2011 is because it has at least 1 cpu upgrade(ivy-e) in its future while 1155 is now eol after ivy.
Parts i will be using for build are:
1x nvidia 680
16 gigs ram
120gig ssd
500gb hd
2tb hd.
h100 cpu cooler
ax850psw

z77 $575
ASUS P8Z77-V http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131819
3770K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116501

2011 $630
ASUS P9X79 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131800
3820 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115229

I will be using 4x4gb 1866 corsair for either build, so that cost is the same.

So my question Basically is does anyone think that its worth an extra $50 to have a slightly slower, But more future proof rig?

Your asking about 2 different chipsets. the X79 is a LGA2011 and the Z77 is LGA1155. That would be your first issue. Comparing a pure enthusiast cpu/mobo combo vs a pretty middle of the road mobo/cpu (Z77). You'll pay a premium on the X79 and if you aren't going to use the quad channel memory or programs designed for heavy cpu/gpu work with video rendering and what not.


A 3770k should out perform the 2011 in most situations unless you need the two extra cores. The biggest advantage of 2011 to me is that you can go with 64GB of ram.

Different applications. And the X79 blows the LGA1155 chipsets. Most people think the additional latency from the quad channel memory is making the LGA1155 faster but once you get to hyperthreading applications it blows even the newest i7 3770k.
 
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Not really.

I for instance would spend an additional $100+ on a CPU if I sometimes get 10% better gaming performance. I don't need 50% performance for $100, 10% is more than enough.

It depends on him.

Whether or not you would spend the extra money has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not the chip is a good value for gaming.
 
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