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Yusuf Islam

compuwiz1

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Peace Train

I really hope the muslims did not take Cat Stevens away permanently. He had some good songs.

How do you all think the country would react, if suddenly tomorrow, there were tickets available for a Cat Stevens tour concert?
Don't get your hopes up. 🙁
 
Originally posted by: yllus
I really hope the muslims did not take Cat Stevens away permanently.
😕 I don't think "the Muslims" took him anywhere he didn't decide to go himself.

I understand that, but I hope he's not been brain washed. I can see where he wanted to explore, but why would someone, who had attained his level of success, suddenly succumb to such a life?

 
I'm pretty sure that he was more than a little mentally unbalanced for the majority of his lifetime. He just picked the hardcore religion du jour to express his craziness with - could've easily been hardcore Christianity or Scientology or somesuch.
 
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Originally posted by: yllus
I really hope the muslims did not take Cat Stevens away permanently.
😕 I don't think "the Muslims" took him anywhere he didn't decide to go himself.

I understand that, but I hope he's not been brain washed. I can see where he wanted to explore, but why would someone, who had attained his level of success, suddenly succumb to such a life?

:laugh: "succumb to such a life". you make it sound like a nightmare
 
Originally posted by: leftyman
He isnt allowed in the US anymore is he?


He's probably on the terrorist watch list.

We get people who don't want to give their SSN# when buying cars, so we run a check on them. We've had a couple who were on the "to be watched list" General policy is, if your name is on that list, we will not do business.
 
Hmmm... I thought I had just seen something about him doing a concert soon. It seems that it was within the last month or so that I read it.

 
Isn't he banned from entering the United States? And has been for like 7 years? Because hes on the 'terror list'?

If that is true it could explain a bit of the craziness.
 
Hmmm... nope, it was a few months ago. He became quite active again over the last couple years. Check out the wiki article: here

btw,
On 10 November 2004, Yusuf Islam was presented with a Man for Peace award by the private foundation of former USSR president Mikhail Gorbachev, for his 'dedication to promote peace, the reconciliation of people and to condemn terrorism'; the ceremony was held in Rome, Italy and attended by five Nobel Peace Prize laureates. A year later, on 4 November 2005, he was awarded an honorary doctorate by the University of Gloucestershire for services to education and humanitarian relief.[51] In October 2003 he received the World Social Award for "humanitarian relief work helping children and victims of war".
Thus, statements such as "He's probably building IEDs right now" are unwarranted and merely indicative of inappropriate stereotyping.


AHHHH, YES! It was within the last month; it was on NPR
here's an NPR article from March
 
Originally posted by: AnthroAndStargate
Isn't he banned from entering the United States? And has been for like 7 years? Because hes on the 'terror list'?

If that is true it could explain a bit of the craziness.

As a footnote to the actions taken by the U.S. government in deporting Yusuf Islam as a suspected terrorist, The Sun and The Sunday Times British newspapers had published reports in October 2004 which stated that the U.S. was correct in its action. As a result Yusuf Islam sued for libel, and received a substantial out-of-court, "agreed settlement" and apology from the newspapers. Both newspapers acknowledged that Yusuf Islam has never supported terrorism and that, to the contrary, he had recently been given a Man for Peace award from the private Nobel Peace Prize Laureates Committee.

Yusuf Islam responded that he was "...delighted by the settlement [which] helps vindicate my character and good name. ... It seems to be the easiest thing in the world these days to make scurrilous accusations against Muslims, and in my case it directly impacts on my relief work and damages my reputation as an artist. The harm done is often difficult to repair," and added that he intended to donate the financial award given to him by the court to help orphans of the recent tsunami in the Indian Ocean.

And, just a few weeks ago,
Yusuf Islam was awarded the Mediterranean Prize for Peace, as he continues to re-enter the spotlight as a musician.

Tis a shame that so many people think he's gone wacky, simply because he converted to another religion following a near death experience. And, it's a shame that so many people seem biased against Islam.

 
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Hmmm... nope, it was a few months ago. He became quite active again over the last couple years. Check out the wiki article: here

btw,
On 10 November 2004, Yusuf Islam was presented with a Man for Peace award by the private foundation of former USSR president Mikhail Gorbachev, for his 'dedication to promote peace, the reconciliation of people and to condemn terrorism'; the ceremony was held in Rome, Italy and attended by five Nobel Peace Prize laureates. A year later, on 4 November 2005, he was awarded an honorary doctorate by the University of Gloucestershire for services to education and humanitarian relief.[51] In October 2003 he received the World Social Award for "humanitarian relief work helping children and victims of war".
Thus, statements such as "He's probably building IEDs right now" are unwarranted and merely indicative of inappropriate stereotyping.


AHHHH, YES! It was within the last month; it was on NPR
here's an NPR article from March

thank you for bringing reality to this thread. the original post is quite ignorant.
 
Originally posted by: DrPizza


Tis a shame that so many people think he's gone wacky, simply because he converted to another religion following a near death experience. And, it's a shame that so many people seem biased against Islam.


he's nuts. there is no bias against islam, only reality that it is unlike other religions in that it is worse. muslims themselves will tell you it isn't like other religions, its a way of life, it covers everything like a cancer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_Stevens#Salman_Rushdie_controversy
"Salman Rushdie controversy

On February 21, 1989 Yusuf Islam addressed students at Kingston University in London about his journey to Islam and was asked about the controversy in the Muslim world and the fatwa calling for Salman Rushdie's execution. He claims to have only stated the legal consequences from the Qur'an - that blasphemy is a capital offense - and not actually have made any claims of support for the fatwa. Newspapers quickly denounced Yusuf Islam's support for a possible assassination of Rushdie. The next day he released a statement saying that he was not personally encouraging anybody towards vigilantism.[22]

However, on May 23, 1989, the New York Times reported on comments Yusuf Islam had made on a British television courtroom-style program, Hypotheticals,[23] in an episode ("A Satanic Scenario") that had already been recorded to be broadcast the following week, and that Islam had in a later interview reaffirmed the comments he made:

[Rather than go to a demonstration to burn an effigy of the author Salman Rushdie] I would have hoped that it'd be the real thing.[24]

[If Rushdie turned up at my doorstep looking for help] I might ring somebody who might do more damage to him than he would like. I'd try to phone the Ayatollah Khomeini and tell him exactly where this man is.[24]

On March 8 1989, while speaking in London's Regents Park Mosque, when asked by a Christian Science Monitor reporter how he would "cope with the idea of killing a writer for writing a book" he is reported to have replied:

In Islam there is a line between let's say freedom and the line which is then transgressed into immorality and irresponsibility and I think as far as this writer is concerned, unfortunately, he has been irresponsible with his freedom of speech. Salman Rushdie or indeed any writer who abuses the prophet, or indeed any prophet, under Islamic law, the sentence for that is actually death. It's got to be seen as a deterrent, so that other people should not commit the same mistake again.[25]

He added that if Rushdie should manage to escape the death sentence he would still have to "face God on the day of judgement."[25]

He has never retracted his statements about Rushdie, but, in a 2000 Rolling Stone[26] interview, he was asked to explain his position on the fatwa controversy and said:

I'm very sad that this seems to be the No. 1 question people want to discuss. I had nothing to do with the issue other than what the media created. I was innocently drawn into the whole controversy. So, after many years, I'm glad at least now that I have been given the opportunity to explain to the public and fans my side of the story in my own words. At a lecture, back in 1989, I was asked a question about blasphemy according to Islamic Law, I simply repeated the legal view according to my limited knowledge of the Scriptural texts, based directly on historical commentaries of the Qur'an. The next day the newspaper headlines read, "Cat Says, Kill Rushdie." I was abhorred, but what could I do? I was a new Muslim. If you ask a Bible student to quote the legal punishment of a person who commits blasphemy in the Bible, he would be dishonest if he didn't mention Leviticus 24:16[27].

Furthermore, he states his position on his personal spiritual website, starting as follows[28]:

I never called for the death of Salman Rushdie; nor backed the Fatwa issued by the Ayatollah Khomeini - and still don?t. The book itself destroyed the harmony between peoples and created an unnecessary international crisis.

When asked about my opinion regarding blasphemy, I could not tell a lie and confirmed that - like both the Torah and the Gospel - the Qur?an considers it, without repentance, as a capital offense. The Bible is full of similar harsh laws if you?re looking for them[29]. However, the application of such Biblical and Qur?anic injunctions is not to be outside of due process of law, in a place or land where such law is accepted and applied by the society as a whole...

There was backlash over the Rushdie incident at the time, including the band 10,000 Maniacs, who had recorded "Peace Train" on their 1987 In My Tribe album, deleting the song from subsequent pressings of their album as a protest against the remarks he made."
 
Regardless of all the political/religious BS, his last album (An Other Cup) sucked HARD. Couldn't even compare to his old stuff.
 
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