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tyler811

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Zipping past Fisherman's Wharf, his scanner detected, then downloaded to his laptop, the unique serial numbers of two pedestrians' electronic U.S. passport cards embedded with radio frequency identification, or RFID, tags. Within an hour, he'd "skimmed" the identifiers of four more of the new, microchipped PASS cards from a distance of 20 feet.
 

Rubycon

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Keep the real one in a shielded sleeve and keep a dummy one (or two!) out for the scanners to pick up. Sounds like fun. ;)
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Rubycon
Keep the real one in a shielded sleeve and keep a dummy one (or two!) out for the scanners to pick up. Sounds like fun. ;)

Sure, until the police find the fake ID on you and charge you with a crime.
 

Rubycon

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Sure, until the police find the fake ID on you and charge you with a crime.

Surely someone with knowledge of RFID can sidestep the police. ;)
 

Miramonti

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Originally posted by: Rubycon
Keep the real one in a shielded sleeve and keep a dummy one (or two!) out for the scanners to pick up. Sounds like fun. ;)

Would an aluminum foil wrapping do the trick?
 

PottedMeat

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Rubycon
Keep the real one in a shielded sleeve and keep a dummy one (or two!) out for the scanners to pick up. Sounds like fun. ;)

Sure, until the police find the fake ID on you and charge you with a crime.

Why would you need a complete fake ID for the scanners to pick up? All you need is the tag or transponder which could be disguised as anything.

If you don't want to be scanned couldn't you just smash the passport/ID at the RFID location? Security would be forced to enter in the data manually.
 

Red Squirrel

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And this is one of the many reasons I would never live in the US. The government is out to get everyone. Everybody is a criminal and terrorist until proven otherwise.

May as well just call these ID things the mark of the beast and be over with.
 

Lean L

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This is why the keyless entry/drive in cars today suck. RFIDs are easy to reproduce.
 

Rubycon

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Originally posted by: PottedMeat

If you don't want to be scanned couldn't you just smash the passport/ID at the RFID location? Security would be forced to enter in the data manually.

Microwave oven is your friend. ;)
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: iamanidiot
This is why the keyless entry/drive in cars today suck. RFIDs are easy to reproduce.

While I know they are easy to reproduce (I've worked with them before), I have not looked at how the ones for cars work. I've not seen anything about the security (or lack thereof) of them, so are they really easy to copy, essentially making the car easy to steal?
 

xanis

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: iamanidiot
This is why the keyless entry/drive in cars today suck. RFIDs are easy to reproduce.

While I know they are easy to reproduce (I've worked with them before), I have not looked at how the ones for cars work. I've not seen anything about the security (or lack thereof) of them, so are they really easy to copy, essentially making the car easy to steal?

Seems like it.

 

TehMac

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I don't like anything involving the government getting more ID'ing of us.
 

Modelworks

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I like to pay back those people using RFID scanners. You can buy RFID chips then using exploits in the scanning software , set the data to send data to the scanners that causes the software to hang.
 

Rubycon

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
I like to pay back those people using RFID scanners. You can buy RFID chips then using exploits in the scanning software , set the data to send data to the scanners that causes the software to hang.

And they can "fight back" by ignoring flooding as well. This is no different than security software vs. malware. It's a constant volley that never stops.
 

arcenite

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Originally posted by: Rubycon
Originally posted by: Modelworks
I like to pay back those people using RFID scanners. You can buy RFID chips then using exploits in the scanning software , set the data to send data to the scanners that causes the software to hang.

And they can "fight back" by ignoring flooding as well. This is no different than security software vs. malware. It's a constant volley that never stops.

And then you can use an RFID radio locator to try and locate the person and go over and punch them in the face.
 

Rubycon

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Originally posted by: arcenite

And then you can use an RFID radio locator to try and locate the person and go over and punch them in the face.

Why not just use the remote airbag deployment system and give them a punch of the lifetime? :evil:
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: Rubycon
Originally posted by: arcenite

And then you can use an RFID radio locator to try and locate the person and go over and punch them in the face.

Why not just use the remote airbag deployment system and give them a punch of the lifetime? :evil:

There's such a thing? :shocked: