Your new HDTV set doesn't have a DVI HDCP connector? Uh Oh!

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Looks like you got the shaft. Things aren't looking good for the HTPC or high resolution gaming crowd either. Waiting for that DVI>component dongle for your Radeon to connect to your new digital TV set? You may have a long wait. How does 480p MAXIMUM display resolution sound for ANY decoded source sound?

New standards being adopted by the MPAA and forced on manufacterers of Digital Video electronic devices require that All decoding of material must take place in the DISPLAY DEVICE , no external converters allowed. All other signals will be downmixed to a MAXIMUM displayed resolution of 480p. What this means is that, unless your particular TV has the DVI HDCP connector(most HDTV sets sold as of right now, today, DO NOT have this connector) you wont be seeing 720p or 1080i HDTV resolutions at all, and 480p, while higher resolution than current NTSC Broadcast TV, is DVD resolution, not HDTV at all.

Here's how I read this:

Digital Display WITH the DVI HDCP connector: Ability to view HDTV format digital video streams. No recording possible in its native, uncompressed format.
Digital Display WITHOUT the DVI HDCP connector : NO ability to view HDTV format digital video streams at all. All content will be downmixed to a Maximum 480p resolution for viewing/recording.

What does this mean for those of us waiting for digital connectivety between our PC's and our DTV sets? I don't know enough about it really, but it can't mean good things. Like the article explains, look for current analog connectors (VGA to Component video adapters for instance) to disappear under pressure from the MPAA (it seems such a niche market, there can't possibly be enough industry muscle to fight the MPAA on this front) just how are digital products like the dongle promised by ATI going to fit in? My guess is that they're not.

Look for current owners of soon to be crippled HDTV displays to put up the biggest fight, but honestly with the content providers buying into this copy protection scheme(cable systems, satellite TV, Hollywood, ect) and manufacterers following suit (Sony) and the fact that you won't be denied the ability to watch/record the media (albeit a reduced resolution, downmixed version) coupled with the fact there is very little content available above 480p resolution currently. I'd say it certainly is possible they'll get their way.

Maybe someone can explain to me why this shouldn't piss me off.

UPDATE: fixed link..DOH
 

ScottMac

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Mitsubishi has promised for over a year that when a standard is finally set, they will release a compatible board to upgrade any of their HD/digital sets to meet the standard (commonly referred to as "The Promise Board").

It's on paper, it's published, and the company will certainly live up to the promise. The board won't be cheap (~US$1,000.00), but it'll be cheaper than tossing your old set and getting another one.

Don't get your shorts in a knot yet. The fat lady isn't even singing scales yet......

FWIW

Scott


 

Workin'

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Usually it's fun to be an "early adopter". HDTV has been a nightmare. And they don't even kiss you before they screw you...

There's gonna be a lot of angry folk. Well, at least a couple hundred thousand who already bought sets. I'm all for early adoption, but I would never buy any device for which the standards were not yet approved - which is the case with HDTV.
 

rbV5

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What this means to digital video, and the PC as a component in HT and high resolution gaming is my real concern. It appears that the thrust is to keep PC's seperate from HD video streams, period. Just when PC video was gaining mainstream momentum, which in turn brings affordable tools to enthusiast such as myself, and the promise of greater things just over the horizon. Sad really.
 

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<< What this means to digital video, and the PC as a component in HT and high resolution gaming is my real concern. It appears that the thrust is to keep PC's seperate from HD video streams, period. Just when PC video was gaining mainstream momentum, which in turn brings affordable tools to enthusiast such as myself, and the promise of greater things just over the horizon. Sad really. >>



The bastards are sh!t their pants scared that people are going to copy 'em........ they want infinite control......

I rarely advocate copying of copyright material.... but in this case.... all you people who got screwed---screw them right back..... remember, there's a way around EVERYTHING....

To the MODS: The statement above is out of anger towards the industry, but if you find it against forum rules, please delete it.

zs
 

Vernor

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Oh yeah, the HD communities on the net have been in turmoil for a month now over this.

It's obviously going to apply to HD-DVD and satellite boxes. How it affects cable or HTPCs remains to be seen.


But that's not all:

http://wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,50702,00.html



Hollywood is on an all-out desperate binge to regain control.