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JTsyo

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CIA invests web monitoring company

It makes sense to use the free information. Not really a breach of privacy since it's in the open. I was also interested to see how this was used by companies. I just hope they take into account the internet isn't a accurate representation of real life. There seems to be many more loudmouths here.
 

ebaycj

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Technically, if it is the CIA, and they are dealing with US Citizens, their jurisdiction ends where the united states of america begins.
 

jonks

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*shakes fist* stay away from reading publicly posted information!

*shakes fist after terror strike* why weren't you reading publicly posted info to get ahead of this?
 

OCGuy

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Bullshit. My tinfoil mouse keeps out all of teh packet sniffers. Screw you conspiracy theorists.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have some chem-trails to photograph.
 

JKing106

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Originally posted by: jonks
*shakes fist* stay away from reading publicly posted information!

*shakes fist after terror strike* why weren't you reading publicly posted info to get ahead of this?

+++
 

rudder

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They might as well. They aren't working on anything else at the moment.
 

boomerang

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Originally posted by: rudder
They might as well. They aren't working on anything else at the moment.
Yeah, wary of doing their jobs lest they be prosecuted for it. Of course everyone in the world is our friend now, so maybe we just don't need them anymore?
 

SirStev0

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Wouldn't it be great if they start listing them as aliases.

Next docket, John Smith, aka Bamaguy, aka Boobsforlife, aka LoVeStItTtIes, aka BonerJam, aka...
 

Jaskalas

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The natural reaction is for us to encrypt our communications, and then for them to ban encryption.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
The natural reaction is for us to encrypt our communications, and then for them to ban encryption.

Good thing the government doesnt have the most advanced decryption agency the world.

*cough*
 

Virtual Conan

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Originally posted by: ebaycj
Technically, if it is the CIA, and they are dealing with US Citizens, their jurisdiction ends where the united states of america begins.

That's how it's supposed to work but recently it doesn't seem like it.
 

BarrySotero

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Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Originally posted by: ebaycj
Technically

lol

Yeah "technically" ended when a communist got elected to "change" things - technically.

The CIA has had its nuts busted (by the creature) for doing the work it was supposed to - only makes sense to turn it on the people.

It was already reported the Fright House also had a plan to harvest personal data and comments etc off websites

"White House Plans to Collect Data from Social Networking Sites"


"Have you posted a video of yourself on You Tube? Do you have pictures of your kids on Facebook? How about rants of your political views, or maybe a few choice words aimed at a policy or injustice you have witnessed all played out on MySpace? All of these may be subject to collection and filing at the archives of the White House according to the National Legal and Policy Center.

In a report released Monday the NLPC stated that it uncovered a government contract up for bid which specifies the collection of information from Social Networking mediums. The White House Office of New Media request for contract is deemed by some as necessary in order to Comply with Presidential Records Act. The White House Office of New Media was set up to make the government more technologically approachable and to aid in the transparency of government."


http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/278642

 

JTsyo

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Originally posted by: Virtual Conan
Originally posted by: ebaycj
Technically, if it is the CIA, and they are dealing with US Citizens, their jurisdiction ends where the united states of america begins.

That's how it's supposed to work but recently it doesn't seem like it.

From the article it seems to says the CIA would monitor foreign blogs and such. Though there's issues of how do you know when an American is posting there or vice versa.

The part of the CIA I'm wary off is the parts that actually take action instead of just collecting information. I was very surprised to learn the CIA has a UAV fleet and uses them to launch missiles. I think their role should be to identify the targets for the military and let someone else make the decision to pull the trigger.
 

TheSkinsFan

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Originally posted by: JTsyo
Originally posted by: Virtual Conan
Originally posted by: ebaycj
Technically, if it is the CIA, and they are dealing with US Citizens, their jurisdiction ends where the united states of america begins.

That's how it's supposed to work but recently it doesn't seem like it.

From the article it seems to says the CIA would monitor foreign blogs and such. Though there's issues of how do you know when an American is posting there or vice versa.
There are very specific rules which govern the collection of information on US persons, including rules that govern exactly what you're referring to. The rules are known as "Intelligence Oversight." The CIA, along with everyone else in the business, are supposed to operate within those very specific rules.

Google can help you fill in the blanks with these policies; particularly EO 12333, AR 381-10, DoD 5240.1R, etc. Search Google for "Intelligence Oversight," and dig in. :)
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
The natural reaction is for us to encrypt our communications, and then for them to ban encryption.

Good thing the government doesnt have the most advanced decryption agency the world.

*cough*

Encryption and decryption techniques are mathematical in nature. There aren't any "secret" back doors. And, as I said before, if you want to encrypt something so that only you can decrypt it, it doesn't take a ton of work.
 

fallout man

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Originally posted by: BarrySotero
Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Originally posted by: ebaycj
Technically

lol

Yeah "technically" ended when a communist got elected to "change" things - technically.

The CIA has had its nuts busted (by the creature) for doing the work it was supposed to - only makes sense to turn it on the people.

It was already reported the Fright House also had a plan to harvest personal data and comments etc off websites

"White House Plans to Collect Data from Social Networking Sites"


"Have you posted a video of yourself on You Tube? Do you have pictures of your kids on Facebook? How about rants of your political views, or maybe a few choice words aimed at a policy or injustice you have witnessed all played out on MySpace? All of these may be subject to collection and filing at the archives of the White House according to the National Legal and Policy Center.

In a report released Monday the NLPC stated that it uncovered a government contract up for bid which specifies the collection of information from Social Networking mediums. The White House Office of New Media request for contract is deemed by some as necessary in order to Comply with Presidential Records Act. The White House Office of New Media was set up to make the government more technologically approachable and to aid in the transparency of government."


http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/278642

LOOK INTO IT. LOOK FOR HELP. The first step is always the most difficult.
 

irishScott

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Originally posted by: Ausm
My question is would this include pr0n sites :eek:

lol, I'm pretty damn sure I'm already on some random watch list. Plenty of times I've clicked a straight porn link and gotten redirected to all sorts of shit. Hell I even got directed to one site and was greeted by a department of Justice logo, saying the site had been shut down due to it's content.
 

TheSkinsFan

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
seems redundant when they already have echelon

"Echelon" has become nothing more than the catch-all term for any and every collection platform used by the NSA. It no longer refers to any specific system. Just an FYI...