Originally posted by: fallout man
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
So it's "fair" for people who have no condition to be forced against their will to pay for someone else's problem? How on earth can you even entertain the concept that such a thing represents fairness?
Yes, it is perfectly fair. Society determined what it considers "fair", not you or I or any individual. If someone is disabled to the point where they could not fend for themselves, a civilized society pays for the basic human needs of that individual. Who pays for that? Yep, we all do. We all share the burden of caring for those who cannot care for themselves, even though you consider it "someone else's problem". Guess what, when you live in a civilized society, everyone has to share the load.
The good of society is absolutely subordinate to the good of the free individual. Society serves the individual. Individuals do not serve society.
Society can and does dictate what the responsibility of each individual within the society is, including paying for the costs of the society at large. Take a peek at your taxes and let me know if you have the option to opt out of paying for "someone else's problem".
You are not speaking of a "society". You are speaking of a totalitarian regime. You are speaking of the tyranny of the majority, and you are defining "right" as "what the society thinks". Remember that society one thought that African Americans were only worth 3/5 of a person and that it was acceptable for people to own slaves. It was individuals who fought those societal definitions of "right". Society does not determine what is "right". Just because society has the power to compel individuals to do something does not mean that it is right for society to do so.
The simple fact is that while there is much wrong with the way the US is currently stealing from its innovative and successful individuals, the other options are worse. Just because I am strong-armed by the government does not mean it's a good situation. The difference between what is and what should be is quite vast.
ZV
You are a sad human being. I truly hope that you never have the misfortune of having a loved one be condemned to certain death because they were not able to pay the inflated medical costs. On the other hand, I feel that it would be a perfectly valuable lesson for you, and the rest of the like-minded sociopaths such as yourself.
If premiums are scaled to the likelihood of potential costs with regard to health problems, then many people who haven't a choice in their condition will be doomed to certain death. Sure, anyone can pay a $10,000/mo premium if they need it--IF THEIR NAME IS FUCKING DONALD TRUMP.
Also, if you find yourself and your family to be genetically superior human beings, then why don't you just opt out of your health insurance altogether? I'm sure you can afford the occassional doctor's visit, the routine lab work, and the once-in-a-while emergency room visit for bumps and bruises out of pocket--JUST THINK HOW MUCH YOU'LL SAVE!
You will sleep better at night knowing that you're not supporting the useless cost-inflating lives of us untermenschen. Fucker.