Your entire party is a dumpster fire

[bbhaag]

So "both sides"?

Tell me which of these claims do you think has merit:

The president is a Muslim who wasn't born in the US.

The president elect was involved in fraud, such as money laundering and fraudulent behavior like seeing up a fake university.

President Obama is a laughing stock with the rest of the world.

Trump is a laughing stock with the rest of the world.

President Obama is a racist.

Trump is a racist.

The president hates America.

The president colluded with Russia.

The president is the most corrupt president in modern history.

This president wants to take your guns.

Their president wants to go after political enemies and journalists.

This president has obstructed justice.

This president has conspired with the military to implement Marshall law.

This president was beholden to wall street.



Which of those applies to Obama and is based on facts and reality and which of those claims apply to trump that are based on facts and reality?

Look friend your list of merits is just as partisan as the political system is as a whole. You made your list based on what you think deserves merit and what you think doesn't. You are viewing your political beliefs from one side and because of that you are unable or unwilling to see beyond them.

 

[UberNeuman]

Look friend your list of merits is just as partisan as the political system is as a whole. You made your list based on what you think deserves merit and what you think doesn't. You are viewing your political beliefs from one side and because of that you are unable or unwilling to see beyond them.

@ivwshane - you knew this would be the response, didn't you?

\both sides! both sides!
\\both siders suck...

 

[Victorian Gray]

Dictionary.com showed no results for 'secret wish'. I can only imagine where you got your so called usual definitions...... I hope it wasn't pulledthemoutofmyass.com

We all go there at least occasionally.

 

[Victorian Gray]

I find it ironic that a lot of people though President Obama would be the most dividing President in history. He was a young black man and his socialist leaning tendencies drove the Republicans into a tizzy when he won the White House.
Turns out his successor is driving that wedge of division even further. The Democrats response to President Trumps election is quite comical. It is on par with the Republicans response to President Obamas elevation into the seat as President.

I suppose this is what happens when people only have two choices. Each choice is brought to the fore front by a system that favors the most radical candidate from either side. Unfortunately that leaves no one in the middle which is where most Americans stand.

Can you tell me what socialist policies he promoted as president because I don't remember any.

 

[crashtech]

From the center, one can see that both sides are comprised of actual humans. From the now hyperpartisan sidelines, all you can see across from you through conveniently provided red-tinted lenses are monsters. That's the unintentional irony of "bothsides," and what leads to the fever dreams of esteemed colleagues like @BonzaiDuck.

 

[crashtech]

Can you tell me what socialist policies he promoted as president because I don't remember any.

Probably because you don't view his signature accomplishment as socialist? I mean, it wasn't single payer, but it did fit the incrementalist narrative.

 

[bbhaag]

@ivwshane - you knew this would be the response, didn't you?

\both sides! both sides!
\\both siders suck...

It's not that either side "sucks" as you so eloquently put it. Can't you see beyond the partisan politics and see that our political leaders have lost the ability to compromise with each other? And they have forced us to see things the same way.

 

[UberNeuman]

It's not that either side "sucks" as you so eloquently put it. Can't you see beyond the partisan politics and see that our political leaders have lost the ability to compromise with each other? And they have forced us to see things the same way.

Anwser ivwshane's questions and then we can see what you feel "compromise" is. Give us a base line of what "the center" is.

\lol.

 

[Younigue]

That's a much better expression of your beliefs regarding our esteemed compatriot's posts. Thanks for taking the time to compose it. Perhaps in my intentional naivete, I still recall the child's belief that you must not confess your wishes to the djinni, lest they become true.

Regardless, you're a dog with a bone. Obviously it's not a "secret". Are you about splitting hairs on this or are you truly concerned that one person's (offensive) confession will start a civil war.

I get the sentiment, I want an uprising and I'm wondering why it hasn't happened yet. The House Republicans and The Plague should be shut down! Does that mean I want many deaths? Absolutely not. I want them gone. It would be better for the world, the country and yes, even their base!

 

[bbhaag]

Anwser ivwshane's questions and then we can see what you feel "compromise" is. Give us a base line of what "the center" is.

\lol.

Sigh.....alright I guess you got me. I guess there is only two ways to view politics and that only way is the Democrats and Republicans perspective. There is no compromise. There is no better way.

 

[UberNeuman]

Sigh.....alright I guess you got me. I guess there is only two ways to view politics and that only way is the Democrats and Republicans perspective. There is no compromise. There is no better way.

What perspective policywise have you offered?

 

[crashtech]

Regardless, you're a dog with a bone. Obviously it's not a "secret". Are you about splitting hairs on this or are you truly concerned that one person's (offensive) confession will start a civil war.

I get the sentiment, I want an uprising and I'm wondering why it hasn't happened yet. The House Republicans and The Plague should be shut down! Does that mean I want many deaths? Absolutely not. I want them gone. It would be better for the world, the country and yes, even their base!

I split hairs when it suits me, in this case because concise communication in this medium is essential. I'm glad that you specify not wanting deaths, though, since some of your previous posts (I lurk) have seemed decidedly less temperate. But "gone" seems like some kind of fantasy land, How can "they" (who are actually we) be gone and not dead? All moved to Mother Russia, perhaps?

 

[bbhaag]

What perspective policywise have you offered?

It's ok man just let it go you won. You're right I didn't offer anything regarding policy or a prospectus for new ideas. The two party system we have is obviously the best for everyone. Now we just need to find candidates who are more middle ground and not so far to the left or right.

 

[ivwshane]

Look friend your list of merits is just as partisan as the political system is as a whole. You made your list based on what you think deserves merit and what you think doesn't. You are viewing your political beliefs from one side and because of that you are unable or unwilling to see beyond them.

So every claim I listed was bullshit?

I find your type of intellectual laziness to be on par and as effective as the most partisan of partisans.

 

[ivwshane]

It's ok man just let it go you won. You're right I didn't offer anything regarding policy or a prospectus for new ideas. The two party system we have is obviously the best for everyone. Now we just need to find candidates who are more middle ground and not so far to the left or right.

If you can't argue against the points raised, just make up points you can argue against, right?!

 

[UberNeuman]

It's ok man just let it go you won. You're right I didn't offer anything regarding policy or a prospectus for new ideas. The two party system we have is obviously the best for everyone. Now we just need to find candidates who are more middle ground and not so far to the left or right.

Can't have a middle ground without having ground to stand on. So, lol, what is that "middle ground?"

 

[bbhaag]

So every claim I listed was bullshit?

I find your type of intellectual laziness to be on par and as effective as the most partisan of partisans.

Your're putting words in my mouth. I never claimed anything you listed as bullshit.
Attacking my intelligence is very unbecoming.

 

[Jhhnn]

It's not that either side "sucks" as you so eloquently put it. Can't you see beyond the partisan politics and see that our political leaders have lost the ability to compromise with each other? And they have forced us to see things the same way.

How do we compromise with people who think Trump is a good role model for children? Trump might be a lot of things, but he's not that. That's crazy shit. Is there really anybody there capable of seeing past tribal loyalty?

I mean, I knew there were people over there getting pretty nuts but this normalization of Trump is nothing short of astounding. November 08, 2016, is a day that will go down in infamy, the day that American conservatives completely lost their marbles over an incredible con artist.

I never dreamed it had gotten that bad until it happened.

 

[bbhaag]

Can't have a middle ground without having ground to stand on. So, lol, what is that "middle ground?"

Lets start here. Right now. Lets find the middle. You and me and anyone else who wants to join. Somewhere inside of you you have to admit there is a better way. Lets find it together.

 

[crashtech]

I don't think very many posters are here to get along, unfortunately. Here to be smarter than the next, here to dehumanize opponents, here to take out frustrations brought on by an unfair and uncaring world, sure. Not gonna find any Kumbaya in these digs.

BTW, I'm guilty of some of the sins I listed...

 

[UberNeuman]

Lets start here. Right now. Lets find the middle. You and me and anyone else who wants to join. Somewhere inside of you you have to admit there is a better way. Lets find it together.

I, and others, haven't claimed to be the "center" or "in the middle" - you have - so, what's the plan of those in those two camps to bring balance to the force...

 

[ivwshane]

Your're putting words in my mouth. I never claimed anything you listed as bullshit.
Attacking my intelligence is very unbecoming.

You claimed the Democrats reactions to trump were on par to Republicans reaction to Obama and you found it comical. I then asked you which claims you thought were bullshit so we could see if, indeed, Democrats were reacting to trump like they did Obama, that is, they are making up bullshit.

Your intelligence is a reflection of the content and quality of your posts and I have no bearing on that, it's not my fault you can't support your opinion.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Probably because you don't view his signature accomplishment as socialist? I mean, it wasn't single payer, but it did fit the incrementalist narrative.

The ACA is in no way anything close to socialist.

 

[ivwshane]

I don't think very many posters are here to get along, unfortunately. Here to be smarter than the next, here to dehumanize opponents, here to take out frustrations brought on by an unfair and uncaring world, sure. Not gonna find any Kumbaya in these digs.

BTW, I'm guilty of some of the sins I listed...

That sounds like a projection to me.

 

[qliveur]

Hello, Pot? This is Kettle. You're black.