Your entire party is a dumpster fire

[UglyCasanova]

:yawn;

 

[Moonbeam]

realibrad: Who here has called for the deaths of millions of Democrats?

Democrats be damned. Every person who is not calling for the immediate impeachment of Donald Trump and would not support such a move is supporting a train wreak that can lead to the deaths of millions of Republicans. The hidden face of self hate is a death wish. Bonzai is just perspicacious. He sees it coming while you are walking backwards into it.

r: If they have they are just as sick.

M: When you have a vast portion of society acting out a death wish and committing national suicide, it isn't exactly sickness to respond. Rational people, however, who can see the extent, depth, and hopelessly incurable nature of the disease are going to reach for a knife like somebody bitten in the arm by a cobra. If you don't lop off the arm you're dead.

r: Ill agree that the Right has been demonizing liberals, but the flat hope that they all die in a violent war is very different. Has it really gotten to this point? I sure hope this is not popular.

M: Totally popular and totally rational in the way that he described it, a secret wish. As usual, you have not taken time to consider what calling that wish a secret implies. Surely it is not a secret in the obvious sense because he expressed it. He is saying it is secret because it is a wish he will not admit even to himself, a wish he himself is morally bound never to act on, but the only solution there may be. He is simply aware of his own death wish despite the desire not to be.

You will always be better off, safer as a conservative, surrounded by people who know they wish you were dead. They can see where the problem is and won't so easily unconsciously act out that wish.

We are living through a Zombie Apocalypse, sleepwalking tools eating America's healthy flesh. What happens when it's all gone.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

In a world where bullets are currency, who do you think that last 10% will be to survive? Sure as hell ain't going to be city folk without the internet hence proving my point. Practicing shooting is a dam good start to hunting your own food or defending yourself. These are tools you will need to survive an apocalypse. I feel that if there was a nuke that hit my metro area, I'd be very well prepared to survive. Bring it on NK or Russia or whoever. If any liberals in urban environments survive, I bet they will be begging country folk to help them since they will have access to clean water and meat.

Aren’t you guys always bringing up places like Chicago? Go shoot at your targets. Remember what they are shooting at.

 

[UglyCasanova]

realibrad: Who here has called for the deaths of millions of Democrats?

Democrats be damned. Every person who is not calling for the immediate impeachment of Donald Trump and would not support such a move is supporting a train wreak that can lead to the deaths of millions of Republicans. The hidden face of self hate is a death wish. Bonzai is just perspicacious. He sees it coming while you are walking backwards into it.

r: If they have they are just as sick.

M: When you have a vast portion of society acting out a death wish and committing national suicide, it isn't exactly sickness to respond. Rational people, however, who can see the extent, depth, and hopelessly incurable nature of the disease are going to reach for a knife like somebody bitten in the arm by a cobra. If you don't lop off the arm you're dead.

r: Ill agree that the Right has been demonizing liberals, but the flat hope that they all die in a violent war is very different. Has it really gotten to this point? I sure hope this is not popular.

M: Totally popular and totally rational in the way that he described it, a secret wish. As usual, you have not taken time to consider what calling that wish a secret implies. Surely it is not a secret in the obvious sense because he expressed it. He is saying it is secret because it is a wish he will not admit even to himself, a wish he himself is morally bound never to act on, but the only solution there may be. He is simply aware of his own death wish despite the desire not to be.

You will always be better off, safer as a conservative, surrounded by people who know they wish you were dead. They can see where the problem is and won't so easily unconsciously act out that wish.

We are living through a Zombie Apocalypse, sleepwalking tools eating America's healthy flesh. What happens when it's all gone.

Leads to a train wreck that results in the death of millions...?

 

[Moonbeam]

This response is so ridiculous. You hope for a war that will kill millions. The rest of the response is like something out of the Third Reich or Soviet Union.

Bonzai just happens to have a far better understanding of just how vile and worthless conservatives are. He used to be one. He knows how to the Third Reich and the Soviet Union thinks. You don't lose your memory when you get cured.

 

[crashtech]

@Moonbeam , it's not a secret wish once it's blabbed on a forum. At that point it's an explicit wish.

 

[Moonbeam]

Leads to a train wreck that results in the death of millions...?

Have you noticed the number of TV shows and films about traveling back in time to undo the end of the time traveler's world. The holistic side of the human brain can feel what is coming. The evidence we are on a disaster course is evident enough to leak out in our fiction. May I add. Wake the fuck up.

 

[Moonbeam]

@Moonbeam , it's not a secret wish once it's blabbed on a forum. At that point it's an explicit wish.

Poof, you are now a rabbit. I just made that explicit and by saying so made it real. In the same way, your post is all wrong. You just made it explicit you don't know what confessing a secret wish means. It means you are appalled to realize what you feel. It does not mean that now that you know what you feel you are going to run out and start killing people. Wake the fuck up.

 

[nickqt]

Have you noticed the number of TV shows and films about traveling back in time to undo the end of the time traveler's world. The holistic side of the human brain can feel what is coming. The evidence we are on a disaster course is evident enough to leak out in our fiction. May I add. Wake the fuck up.

With those stories, it's just the individual's death, externalized to everyone. Time waits for no man. Nor does it wait for time travelers.

The end of the world has been an ongoing calamity for as long as human history has been recorded. Not that it's impossible to happen, just unlikely that it's going to come with a huge phenomenal bang anytime soon. Capitalism and rising GDP, which is essentially the mining and burning of the rock we're trying to habitate on, is the most likely end of the world scenario. At least for humans and other large species. Freedom means having the ability to commit species-ide.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Not the entire party. Only 72% of them, according to the poll.

The other 28% are still thinking about it.

 

[Moonbeam]

With those stories, it's just the individual's death, externalized to everyone. Time waits for no man. Nor does it wait for time travelers.

The end of the world has been an ongoing calamity for as long as human history has been recorded. Not that it's impossible to happen, just unlikely that it's going to come with a huge phenomenal bang anytime soon. Capitalism and rising GDP, which is essentially the mining and burning of the rock we're trying to habitate on, is the most likely end of the world scenario. At least for humans and other large species. Freedom means having the ability to commit species-ide.

In my opinion freedom would mean the ability not to self destruct. Robots and Zombies do not have that freedom. I find it so interesting that everybody can accept self destruction so long as they see it as choice. Humanity is asleep.

 

[crashtech]

Poof, you are now a rabbit. I just made that explicit and by saying so made it real. In the same way, your post is all wrong. You just made it explicit you don't know what confessing a secret wish means. It means you are appalled to realize what you feel. It does not mean that now that you know what you feel you are going to run out and start killing people. Wake the fuck up.

Uh, no. Words mean things, and you don't get to arbitrarily decide what they mean for others.

 

[Moonbeam]

Uh, no. Words mean things, and you don't get to arbitrarily decide what they mean for others.

Jesus Christ. Right, but you do. You are fun.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Oh look a nazi bitch.

Oh look, an idiot who has no clue what a Nazi is.

 

[crashtech]

Jesus Christ. Right, but you do. You are fun.

No, actually not. Most often I refer to dictionary.com if there's any doubt, but unless you're indicating the phrase has some special agreed-upon meaning here on the forum or in your own personal life, "secret wish" usually has a plain and unambiguous meaning, similar to "covert desire," "private want," or even "undisclosed preference."

 

[Jaskalas]

Right wingers will just stick to their regular hunting grounds, namely churches, schools, abortion clinics and federal buildings.

With a complete loss of our social fabric, I'm afraid you're talking total war. Food and Water supplies being the primary target. That's easier than you might imagine to strip from urban centers.

 

[Moonbeam]

No, actually not. Most often I refer to dictionary.com if there's any doubt, but unless you're indicating the phrase has some special agreed-upon meaning here on the forum or in your own personal life, "secret wish" usually has a plain and unambiguous meaning, similar to "covert desire," "private want," or even "undisclosed preference."

Dictionary.com showed no results for 'secret wish'. I can only imagine where you got your so called usual definitions...... I hope it wasn't pulledthemoutofmyass.com

 

[crashtech]

Dictionary.com showed no results for 'secret wish'. I can only imagine where you got your so called usual definitions...... I hope it wasn't pulledthemoutofmyass.com

I get that you are trying to assert that "secret wish" has some other meaning besides what "secret" and "wish" combined mean. Maybe there is, but I could not find any references other than you. Maybe you presume he means "dark fantasy," or "nightmare?"

 

[Moonbeam]

How many bank robbers do you know that show up at the police department to announce they have a secret wish that is actually an explicit wish to rob the Wells Fargo on the corner of B and Dummer on the 14 of Febuary 2018? I realize that you are now far too gone into the absurd to back out now and will continue to dig your hole deeper, but the only rational way to understand a wish that is openly expressed as secret is one to which circumstances have driven one to feel. A secret wish kept secret is a secret wish. A secret wish confessed to is a wish one wishes one didn't have. Sane people do not act on wishes they realize are inappropriate out of moral obligation. Fear, intimidation, brutality, that appears all around us breaks down that moral reluctance. That is why the there is the saying, The sword of God is the empty bellies of the poor. Be careful of holly wrath and instant Karma. It could get ya.

 

[crashtech]

How many bank robbers do you know that show up at the police department to announce they have a secret wish that is actually an explicit wish to rob the Wells Fargo on the corner of B and Dummer on the 14 of Febuary 2018? I realize that you are now far too gone into the absurd to back out now and will continue to dig your hole deeper, but the only rational way to understand a wish that is openly expressed as secret is one to which circumstances have driven one to feel. A secret wish kept secret is a secret wish. A secret wish confessed to is a wish one wishes one didn't have. Sane people do not act on wishes they realize are inappropriate out of moral obligation. Fear, intimidation, brutality, that appears all around us breaks down that moral reluctance. That is why the there is the saying, The sword of God is the empty bellies of the poor. Be careful of holly wrath and instant Karma. It could get ya.

That's a much better expression of your beliefs regarding our esteemed compatriot's posts. Thanks for taking the time to compose it. Perhaps in my intentional naivete, I still recall the child's belief that you must not confess your wishes to the djinni, lest they become true.

 

[bbhaag]

I find it ironic that a lot of people though President Obama would be the most dividing President in history. He was a young black man and his socialist leaning tendencies drove the Republicans into a tizzy when he won the White House.
Turns out his successor is driving that wedge of division even further. The Democrats response to President Trumps election is quite comical. It is on par with the Republicans response to President Obamas elevation into the seat as President.

I suppose this is what happens when people only have two choices. Each choice is brought to the fore front by a system that favors the most radical candidate from either side. Unfortunately that leaves no one in the middle which is where most Americans stand.

 

[crashtech]

The middle is continually derided by partisans of all stripes. As a centrist, I'm roadkill to them.

 

[bbhaag]

Yes I agree with you and I am roadkill just like you. It is an unfortunate aftermath of the American political machine. Only the most radical from either side gets elected because only the most radical turn out to vote in the primaries.

I suppose it is just as much our fault for not doing our civic duty. Bitching and moaning about it from our keyboards does little to sway the minds of politicians. Perhaps if more centrists like us went and voted then the political climate would be different but that is not the way things are.

 

[crashtech]

Well, to paraphrase Lloyd Bentsen, there's no Jack Kennedy...

 

[ivwshane]

I find it ironic that a lot of people though President Obama would be the most dividing President in history. He was a young black man and his socialist leaning tendencies drove the Republicans into a tizzy when he won the White House.
Turns out his successor is driving that wedge of division even further. The Democrats response to President Trumps election is quite comical. It is on par with the Republicans response to President Obamas elevation into the seat as President.

I suppose this is what happens when people only have two choices. Each choice is brought to the fore front by a system that favors the most radical candidate from either side. Unfortunately that leaves no one in the middle which is where most Americans stand.

So "both sides"?

Tell me which of these claims do you think has merit:

The president is a Muslim who wasn't born in the US.

The president elect was involved in fraud, such as money laundering and fraudulent behavior like seeing up a fake university.

President Obama is a laughing stock with the rest of the world.

Trump is a laughing stock with the rest of the world.

President Obama is a racist.

Trump is a racist.

The president hates America.

The president colluded with Russia.

The president is the most corrupt president in modern history.

This president wants to take your guns.

Their president wants to go after political enemies and journalists.

This president has obstructed justice.

This president has conspired with the military to implement Marshall law.

This president was beholden to wall street.



Which of those applies to Obama and is based on facts and reality and which of those claims apply to trump that are based on facts and reality?