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Your 9/11 anti-terrorist tax dollars at work...

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80 Eyes on 2,400 People
If terrorists come to tiny Dillingham, Alaska, security cameras will be ready. But privacy concerns have residents up in arms.
By Tomas Alex Tizon, Times Staff Writer
March 28, 2006


DILLINGHAM, Alaska ? From Anchorage it takes 90 minutes on a propeller plane to reach this fishing village on the state's southwestern edge, a place where some people still make raincoats out of walrus intestine.

This is the Alaskan bush at its most remote. Here, tundra meets sea, and sea turns to ice for half the year. Scattered, almost hidden, in the terrain are some of the most isolated communities on American soil. People choose to live in outposts like Dillingham (pop. 2,400) for that reason: to be left alone.

So eyebrows were raised in January when the first surveillance cameras went up on Main Street. Each camera is a shiny white metallic box with two lenses like eyes. The camera's shape and design resemble a robot's head.

Workers on motorized lifts installed seven cameras in a 360-degree cluster on top of City Hall. They put up groups of six atop two light poles at the loading dock, and more at the fire hall and boat harbor.

By mid-February, more than 60 cameras watched over the town, and the Dillingham Police Department plans to install 20 more ? all purchased through a $202,000 Homeland Security grant meant primarily to defend against a terrorist attack.

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Roberts, mayor of Dillingham from 1972 to 1978, says the cameras constitute an invasion of privacy, and beyond that, they're just plain creepy. He scratched together a petition demanding removal of the cameras and collected 219 signatures within days. He carries the ragged sheaf of names next to him in the truck.

The City Council, which supports the cameras, threw out the petition, claiming Roberts did not follow the law, which requires that the signatories be registered voters. Now Roberts is working with others to put together a legal petition to force the issue on the October ballot.

Roberts climbs out of his truck and slams the door.

He is a square-jawed man with a slow, deliberate way of talking. He looks out at Nushagak Bay, which remains frozen until the end of April. No boat can enter or leave the harbor until the ice breaks up. He shakes his head. "This is Dillingham, Alaska, folks," he says. "I don't think we have to worry about Osama bin Laden."

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"Tokyo is that way," says Thompson, extending his arm to the left. He's standing near the spot in the harbor where Roberts stood the previous day.

"Russia is about 800 miles that way," he says, arm extending right.


"Seattle is about 1,200 miles back that way." He points behind him.

"So if I have the math right, we're closer to Russia than we are to Seattle."

Now imagine, he says: What if the bad guys, whoever they are, manage to obtain a nuclear device in Russia, where some weapons are believed to be poorly guarded. They put the device in a container and then hire organized criminals, "maybe Mafiosi," to arrange a tramp steamer to pick it up. The steamer drops off the container at the Dillingham harbor, complete with forged paperwork to ship it to Seattle. The container is picked up by a barge.

"Ten days later," the chief says, "the barge pulls into the Port of Seattle."

Thompson pauses for effect.

"Phoooom," he says, his hands blooming like a flower.

:disgust:

I think we have more important and tasty targets in Alaska to protect from al-Q. In the grand scheme of things $200k isn't that much money but holy crap Batman... How stupid of a terrorist do you have to be to take the Russia/Dillingham/Seattle route to nuke the US?

Knowing communities like this like I do... I predict that over the next year (who am I kidding... six months) those cameras will "malfunction" (re: hit by baseball bats/shot out) and the entire system will be completely inoperable. The plasma TV's will end up in some lucky police chief's home. The digital recorders will be converted into the world's most expensive TIVO.


 
LOL What are the cameras even going to be watching for?

"That truck driving down main street looks like a couple of terrorists, we better get on the phone with Seattle...no wait they turned"
 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
LOL What are the cameras even going to be watching for?

"That truck driving down main street looks like a couple of terrorists, we better get on the phone with Seattle...no wait they turned"

That's always what I'm wondering when people talk about cameras in situations like this. Take that truly stupid nuke scenario. It's fairly unlikely, but even if it DID happen, how exactly would cameras stop it?
 
How many steamers bring in shipments of goods from Russia to Dillingham? Instead of cameras...maybe we can check the goods?
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
LOL What are the cameras even going to be watching for?

"That truck driving down main street looks like a couple of terrorists, we better get on the phone with Seattle...no wait they turned"

That's always what I'm wondering when people talk about cameras in situations like this. Take that truly stupid nuke scenario. It's fairly unlikely, but even if it DID happen, how exactly would cameras stop it?

Exactly... Welcome to small-town Alaska.

And then there is the other side that is worried that the cameras will know they have an eighth in their pocket... Which brings me to my prediction:

* All of those cameras will be picked off by a .22 within six months.

* The plasma will be in the chief's home.

* The rest of the gear will vanish into a back closet.
 
Sort of OT, but I saw on the news this past weekend that we are looking at building up to 3 sports stadiums in Iraq with a total cost of up to $1,000,000,000. It's one thing to rebuild infastructure, but to build sporting arenas? Uh, not on my dime! :roll:

Sorry Whoozyerdaddy, just seemed like a good place to place "anti spending" posts! 😉
 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
How many steamers bring in shipments of goods from Russia to Dillingham? Instead of cameras...maybe we can check the goods?
Seems that's something the Democrats, esp. John Kerry, have been harping on for over two years!
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
How many steamers bring in shipments of goods from Russia to Dillingham? Instead of cameras...maybe we can check the goods?
Seems that's something the Democrats, esp. John Kerry, have been harping on for over two years!

But he looks French...
 
Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
How many steamers bring in shipments of goods from Russia to Dillingham? Instead of cameras...maybe we can check the goods?
Seems that's something the Democrats, esp. John Kerry, have been harping on for over two years!

But he looks French...

Parlez-vous francais?
 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
How many steamers bring in shipments of goods from Russia to Dillingham? Instead of cameras...maybe we can check the goods?

Gieger counters would do more good.
 
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Two words . . . Ted Stevens . . . Alaska always gets its cut.

Well that's definitely true.

But it looks like he might have been out of this one. The article says Dillingham applied for a grant from DHS. DHS apparently agreed that Dillingham is a potential hotbed of nuclear materials smuggling and coughed up the bucks.

If Ted had been involved he would have provided funding for a shiny new port along with the cameras. (Y'know... cuz the old port just isn't good enough to even attract the terrorists the cameras are supposed to be looking out for - and we can't have cameras looking at nothing!) 😉
 
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
LOL What are the cameras even going to be watching for?

"That truck driving down main street looks like a couple of terrorists, we better get on the phone with Seattle...no wait they turned"

That's always what I'm wondering when people talk about cameras in situations like this. Take that truly stupid nuke scenario. It's fairly unlikely, but even if it DID happen, how exactly would cameras stop it?

Exactly... Welcome to small-town Alaska.

And then there is the other side that is worried that the cameras will know they have an eighth in their pocket... Which brings me to my prediction:

* All of those cameras will be picked off by a .22 within six months.

* The plasma will be in the chief's home.

* The rest of the gear will vanish into a back closet.


Almost guranteed.

With bigger govt comes bigger corruption
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Exactly... Welcome to small-town Alaska.

And then there is the other side that is worried that the cameras will know they have an eighth in their pocket... Which brings me to my prediction:

* All of those cameras will be picked off by a .22 within six months.

* The plasma will be in the chief's home.

* The rest of the gear will vanish into a back closet.
Almost guranteed.

With bigger govt comes bigger corruption
I'm curious, Genx87.

How do you reconcile a statement like that with your apologetic stance of everything the GOP has done of late?
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Exactly... Welcome to small-town Alaska.

And then there is the other side that is worried that the cameras will know they have an eighth in their pocket... Which brings me to my prediction:

* All of those cameras will be picked off by a .22 within six months.

* The plasma will be in the chief's home.

* The rest of the gear will vanish into a back closet.
Almost guranteed.

With bigger govt comes bigger corruption
I'm curious, Genx87.

How do you reconcile a statement like that with your apologetic stance of everything the GOP has done of late?

Easy! It's Clinton's fault! Oh wait, he made the government smaller and ran surpluses.

Give me a few minutes, Rush just came on. I'll check with him.
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
How many steamers bring in shipments of goods from Russia to Dillingham? Instead of cameras...maybe we can check the goods?
Seems that's something the Democrats, esp. John Kerry, have been harping on for over two years!

With the huge amount we spend on homeland security, there is going to be frivilous spending...by BOTH parties.
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Exactly... Welcome to small-town Alaska.

And then there is the other side that is worried that the cameras will know they have an eighth in their pocket... Which brings me to my prediction:

* All of those cameras will be picked off by a .22 within six months.

* The plasma will be in the chief's home.

* The rest of the gear will vanish into a back closet.
Almost guranteed.

With bigger govt comes bigger corruption
I'm curious, Genx87.

How do you reconcile a statement like that with your apologetic stance of everything the GOP has done of late?
????
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Exactly... Welcome to small-town Alaska.

And then there is the other side that is worried that the cameras will know they have an eighth in their pocket... Which brings me to my prediction:

* All of those cameras will be picked off by a .22 within six months.

* The plasma will be in the chief's home.

* The rest of the gear will vanish into a back closet.
Almost guranteed.

With bigger govt comes bigger corruption
I'm curious, Genx87.

How do you reconcile a statement like that with your apologetic stance of everything the GOP has done of late?

Are you saying my statement is false?
 
Originally posted by: Engineer
Sort of OT, but I saw on the news this past weekend that we are looking at building up to 3 sports stadiums in Iraq with a total cost of up to $1,000,000,000. It's one thing to rebuild infastructure, but to build sporting arenas? Uh, not on my dime! :roll:

Sorry Whoozyerdaddy, just seemed like a good place to place "anti spending" posts! 😉

Well, we have to set up crap for the Iraqis to do to take their mind off how sh!tty their lives are. They have pro-sports, now they just need Iraqi idol and FoxNews-Iraq and the Iraqis will be too dumbed down and pacified to notice how much they are being screwed.

Marx was wrong. Religion isn't the opiate of the masses, but bad television sure is.
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Exactly... Welcome to small-town Alaska.

And then there is the other side that is worried that the cameras will know they have an eighth in their pocket... Which brings me to my prediction:

* All of those cameras will be picked off by a .22 within six months.

* The plasma will be in the chief's home.

* The rest of the gear will vanish into a back closet.
Almost guranteed.

With bigger govt comes bigger corruption
I'm curious, Genx87.

How do you reconcile a statement like that with your apologetic stance of everything the GOP has done of late?
Are you saying my statement is false?
No, I'm asking what's bolded above. Pretty simple, actually.
 
And we elect leaders to enact this...? Our government does a great job making me realize what a sham this democracy this 🙂
 
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