Young Mexican police chief seeking asylum in US

[Infohawk]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110309/ap_on_re_us/us_drug_war_mexico_young_police_chief

EL PASO, Texas – A young woman who received death threats after recently becoming police chief of a violence-plagued Mexican town is in the U.S and seeking asylum, Mexican and U.S. officials said Tuesday.
Marisol Valles Garcia, 20, made international headlines when she accepted the top law enforcement job in Praxedis G. Guerrero, a township near the Texas border that has been overcome by drug violence. Her predecessor was shot to death in July 2009.
Garcia is now in the U.S. and will be allowed to present her case to an immigration judge, according to a statement from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The town is in the Mexican state of Chihuahua, where ombudsman Gustavo de la Rosa confirmed that Garcia was in the U.S. and said she has initiated a formal asylum petition.

Personally I don't like the idea of rewarding quitters. Mexico is a shit hole because its citizens don't want to take responsibility for their country. They blame it on corruption and poverty, but they themselves are the cause of the country's corruption and poverty. America was not founded by people who ran away when the British shot some people. Maybe Mexicans will put up more of a fight for their own country if they know they can't run across the border to seek the protection and riches of the evil gringos.

 

[ProfJohn]

She isn't bad looking.

If they deny her plea she can always come stay with me and do my yard work

 

[Perknose]

America was not founded by people who ran away when the British shot some people.

Actually, a lot of them did, though not generally during battle. Desertion was endemic during the Revolutionary War. You really should bone up on American history before holding forth.

 

[Perknose]

Here, OP, l googled so you could smarten yourself right up:

The most thorough study of the subject estimates the average desertion rate in the Continental Army at 20 to 25 percent. The desertion rate declined significantly in the latter years of the war, as the army became more professional. In 1777 the New Jersey line had a 42 percent rate of desertion, but after 1778 the rate averaged about 10 percent. It is likely that any compiled figures are too low, as the reports of sick absent soldiers contained many who had deserted.

 

[Infohawk]

Actually, a lot of them did, though not generally during battle. Desertion was endemic during the Revolutionary War. You really should bone up on American history before holding forth.

I must have also missed the part where they fled to greener pastures in British Canada or Spanish Mexico...

 

[ProfJohn]

^ also read up on the battle of Cowpens.

The only reason we won that battle is that the Brits were so used to use running away in battle that we were able to lure them into a trap and demolish them.

The final battle in the movie The Patriot is based on Cowpens so if you've seen the movie you'll get the idea.

 

[Infohawk]

She isn't bad looking.

If they deny her plea she can always come stay with me and do my yard work

I've noticed a lot of immigrants marry American losers who couldn't meet a woman born in the US. All they really have is their citizenship and relative wealth. Doesn't seem like those marriages are particularly promising.

 

[Perknose]

I must have also missed the part where they fled to greener pastures in British Canada or Spanish Mexico...

You missed so much it's the WHOOSH heard 'round the world. Keep advertising your extreme ignorance on the subject, this is fun:

In 1781 Washington wrote that in many instances, "Deserters which have been apprehended by Officers have been rescued by the People." Others moved to Vermont or west of the Alleghenies to avoid capture. In 1783 Washington wrote that the "Grants," a mountainous area between New Hampshire and Vermont, were "populated by hundreds of Deserters from this Army."

 

[PieIsAwesome]

What would you have her do? Not quit and die? Perhaps the most reasonable decision in her case was to quit.

I agree that people need to stand up, but a whole lot of them need to do it. If only a few do, they will just get killed without accomplishing anything.

It would be like leading a charge without anyone actually following you.

 

[Infohawk]

You missed so much it's the WHOOSH heard 'round the world. Keep advertising your extreme ignorance on the subject, this is fun:

Feel free to keep posting factoids about desertion in the Revolutionary war. They probably won't change my position unless you have evidence that these deserters were rewarded with asylum in another country and later contributed positively to those countries or that the founding fathers were deserters.

 

[Infohawk]

What would you have her do? Not quit and die? Perhaps the most reasonable decision in her case was to quit.

I agree that people need to stand up, but a whole lot of them need to do it. If only a few do, they will just get killed without accomplishing anything.

It would be like leading a charge without anyone actually following you.

Yes, I would have her stand and fight. True leaders do risk sacrifice and they become our heroes for it. The attitude of "I'll only take a stand if other people do" is why Mexico is sucking right now. You could basically have the same attitude about almost any important conflict in history and nothing would have happened if certain people didn't lead the way.

 

[HomerJS]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110309/ap_on_re_us/us_drug_war_mexico_young_police_chief



Personally I don't like the idea of rewarding quitters. Mexico is a shit hole because its citizens don't want to take responsibility for their country. They blame it on corruption and poverty, but they themselves are the cause of the country's corruption and poverty. America was not founded by people who ran away when the British shot some people. Maybe Mexicans will put up more of a fight for their own country if they know they can't run across the border to seek the protection and riches of the evil gringos.

Rewarding quitters? RU kidding me? Sarah Palin had made a pretty nice living being a quitter and suckering money out of rubes.

and unlike PJ she won't have to do my lawn, I have something better she can do

 

[Infohawk]

Rewarding quitters? RU kidding me? Sarah Palin had made a pretty nice living being a quitter and suckering money out of rubes.

and unlike PJ she won't have to do my lawn, I have something better she can do

Why are you bringing Sarah Palin into this? Is she up for asylum in another country or something? I just don't see the relevance.

 

[HomerJS]

Why are you bringing Sarah Palin into this? Is she up for asylum in another country or something? I just don't see the relevance.

I like your suggestion. She was the first person that came to mind when I saw the phrase "rewarding quitters". Don't be such a stick in the mud. If you have a better example of being rewarded for quitting I'm all ears.

 

[Infohawk]

I like your suggestion. She was the first person that came to mind when I saw the phrase "rewarding quitters". Don't be such a stick in the mud. If you have a better example of being rewarded for quitting I'm all ears.

Maybe you need to stop visiting such partisan outlets if you see Sarah Palin in every story... I don't need a better example of being rewarded for quitting. The one in the story is good enough for me.

 

[Vette73]

I hope they do not let her in. If they do then everybody will want her job... for a week; and then use the "they want to kill me..." to get in the US.

She accepted the job knowing full well what was in front of her.

 

[wuliheron]

Send the guy up to Milwaukee to replace the union cops there and let the drug cartels take over Mexico. Before you know it pretty much everybody in Mexico will be asking for asylum and we can have our pick of the doctors, lawyers, and scientists. That'll help drive down prices and stimulate the economy in ways just union busting can't and, of course, we can claim its a "humanitarian" policy.

 

[werepossum]

Give her asylum. She tried a very, very dangerous job and stuck with it for six months - longer than many of the office holders survived. Plus she's hot.

In the end, Mexico needs either to be under martial law, or to be annexed as the next thirty-one United States and be forcibly cleaned up. And since we can't afford what we already have, that leaves martial law. Too bad, I'd love to see the ruins.

 

[Linflas]

Actually, a lot of them did, though not generally during battle. Desertion was endemic during the Revolutionary War. You really should bone up on American history before holding forth.

That depends on whether you are talking about regulars vs militia. Militia were notorious for running and deserting because they were not trained soldiers. We fared much better when we actually had trained regular soldiers facing the British regulars.

 

[Thump553]

Calling her a quitter gives the image of a McDonald's counterboy walking off the job. The fact is being small town police in northern Mexico is one of the most dangerous, unrewarded jobs in the world. In the past few years the entire police forces of several towns have been tortured and murdered by the drug cartels, which vastly out-gun and out number them.

As far as the Revolutionary War trivia goes, I seem to recall a factoid stuck in the back of my brain that our soldiers then didn't enlist for a specific period of time. Is that correct? You can't call it desertion if you are entitled to walk away at any time.

 

[Vette73]

Calling her a quitter gives the image of a McDonald's counterboy walking off the job. The fact is being small town police in northern Mexico is one of the most dangerous, unrewarded jobs in the world. In the past few years the entire police forces of several towns have been tortured and murdered by the drug cartels, which vastly out-gun and out number them.

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True, but that was going on BEFORE she signed up. She knew the risk and job details before. She should not able to use that to get a free entry US pass.

 

[jhbball]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110309/ap_on_re_us/us_drug_war_mexico_young_police_chief



Personally I don't like the idea of rewarding quitters. Mexico is a shit hole because its citizens don't want to take responsibility for their country. They blame it on corruption and poverty, but they themselves are the cause of the country's corruption and poverty. America was not founded by people who ran away when the British shot some people. Maybe Mexicans will put up more of a fight for their own country if they know they can't run across the border to seek the protection and riches of the evil gringos.

LOL. You would be running scared you fat nerd.

 

[Infohawk]

Calling her a quitter gives the image of a McDonald's counterboy walking off the job. The fact is being small town police in northern Mexico is one of the most dangerous, unrewarded jobs in the world. In the past few years the entire police forces of several towns have been tortured and murdered by the drug cartels, which vastly out-gun and out number them.

She went into the job knowing that. Of course it's dangerous. That doesn't excuse her from being a quitter.

 

[Infohawk]

LOL. You would be running scared you fat nerd.

I suspect you resort to personal attacks because you don't have any arguments.

 

[classy]

Its kinda funny, she got fired from a job no one wanted and the last guy got killed because of it. Give her asylum. She was dumb for trying to do it, but gotta give her some credit.