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Originally posted by: Elemental007
The college of engineering alone has over 100 professors. There are probably another 300 at least around. So yes, there are a lot of professors. It is, in fact, the largest university in the country.
thanks for helping to make my point.
But I digress. Rather than resorting to childish belittmenent, I will attempt to enlighten you, although you already seem to think that California is a wonderful example of a perfect system and that anything else, with any different viewpoints, is clearly wrong.
no, i think you're confusing me with the Young Conservative of Texas. which was exactly my point in my first post. thanks for helping to make it. btw, i think the california system is pretty screwed up, but you didn't bother to ask that. you just assumed i think it's wonderful.
You need to understand the purpose and context of that list.
First of all, that list was made from YCT members attending numerous lectures. YCT is a very small group at UT. They have very few members, and of those few members, fewer were actually volunteering to spend hours of their time a day sitting in on other lectures. This was made in their spare time while doing their regular course work.
so you're basically admitting you have no knowledge that could accurately prove or disprove anything i'm saying. way to go buddy.
You're basing your opinions of UT Austin without having set foot in Austin for any length of time. That makes you a stereotyping asshat.
wow. just wow. ok, so you having assumed that because i'm from california, i haven't spend any length of time in Austin doesn't make you a stereotyping asshat? do i need to bust out the dictionary for you again? how do you know i didn't grow up in Austin? lucky for you, i didn't, but all the same, you just stereotyped me. in the very same sentance that you chastised me for stereotyping. time for another dictionary entry! pay extra attention to this one as it might save you some embarassment in the future.
Main Entry: hyp·o·crite
Pronunciation: 'hi-p&-"krit
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English ypocrite, from Old French, from Late Latin hypocrita, from Greek hypokritEs actor, hypocrite, from hypokrinesthai
Date: 13th century
: a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
- hypocrite adjective
The problem is you are assuming two things that are not true:
- The list is based upon professors that teach from a liberal bias
I quote from Wink's original post:
List of liberal professors.
http://studentorgs.utexas.edu/yct/watchlist.html.[i
Now I quote from you:
The list is compromised of professors who teach from such a leftist point of view
Way to go.
- The list is complete
see what i said above regarding helping me make my point.
The list isn't, in fact, a list of 'liberal' professors. The list is compromised of professors who teach from such a leftist point of view and allow for no opposing viewpoints to be presented.
Let me give you an example of what you just said, with the subjects replaced so that you can see your error: "The list isn't a list of Ford cars. The list is compromised (sic, do i have to bust out the dictionary AGAIN?!?!) of cars made by Ford and of no other cars." ::shakes head in disbelief:: and you want to talk to me about intelligent posting?
Most of Austin is, in fact, flaming liberal.
might want to check your "facts." as i see from the polling results in the 2002 election, about 63% of the senators and House members representing Austin are Republican. that's a fact.
If you had actually visited here instead of generalizing Austin from the rest of Texas as it is represented by the media from your ivory tower in California, you'd know that.
the visit wasn't required to prove you wrong. the hard voting statistics did it for me.
Any good professor can teach with a resonable bias and, when the class size permits, allow opposing viewpoints to be presented. A good professor should also be able to take a conservative paper or essay and grade it objectively. These professors that made the list don't. That is the problem. If the issue was so cut and dry that one viewpoint was obviously right, then classes wouldn't exist about them. For the Arab/Israeli situation, liberals aren't completely correct, and neither are conservatives. So a liberal professor that belittles his students and does not provide both sides deserves to be on a blacklist.
great, i agree entirely. i assume the Yound Conservatives of Texas also created a corresponding list for conservative professors who do the same thing? Ah yes, I see they did. But there's just one little problem, one that makes a lie of your entire paragraph. they call it the "Honor Roll." Oops! Might want to read the entire page, next time, buddy.
I'd like to see an intelligent reply instead of quoting dictionary.com entries. Yea, that's real mature
Must be that california edujmacation system at work.
the california edujmacation system, hard at work, just systematically destroyed your entire argument. ::bows::
The college of engineering alone has over 100 professors. There are probably another 300 at least around. So yes, there are a lot of professors. It is, in fact, the largest university in the country.
thanks for helping to make my point.
But I digress. Rather than resorting to childish belittmenent, I will attempt to enlighten you, although you already seem to think that California is a wonderful example of a perfect system and that anything else, with any different viewpoints, is clearly wrong.
no, i think you're confusing me with the Young Conservative of Texas. which was exactly my point in my first post. thanks for helping to make it. btw, i think the california system is pretty screwed up, but you didn't bother to ask that. you just assumed i think it's wonderful.
You need to understand the purpose and context of that list.
First of all, that list was made from YCT members attending numerous lectures. YCT is a very small group at UT. They have very few members, and of those few members, fewer were actually volunteering to spend hours of their time a day sitting in on other lectures. This was made in their spare time while doing their regular course work.
so you're basically admitting you have no knowledge that could accurately prove or disprove anything i'm saying. way to go buddy.
You're basing your opinions of UT Austin without having set foot in Austin for any length of time. That makes you a stereotyping asshat.
wow. just wow. ok, so you having assumed that because i'm from california, i haven't spend any length of time in Austin doesn't make you a stereotyping asshat? do i need to bust out the dictionary for you again? how do you know i didn't grow up in Austin? lucky for you, i didn't, but all the same, you just stereotyped me. in the very same sentance that you chastised me for stereotyping. time for another dictionary entry! pay extra attention to this one as it might save you some embarassment in the future.
Main Entry: hyp·o·crite
Pronunciation: 'hi-p&-"krit
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English ypocrite, from Old French, from Late Latin hypocrita, from Greek hypokritEs actor, hypocrite, from hypokrinesthai
Date: 13th century
: a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
- hypocrite adjective
The problem is you are assuming two things that are not true:
- The list is based upon professors that teach from a liberal bias
I quote from Wink's original post:
List of liberal professors.
http://studentorgs.utexas.edu/yct/watchlist.html.[i
Now I quote from you:
The list is compromised of professors who teach from such a leftist point of view
Way to go.
- The list is complete
see what i said above regarding helping me make my point.
The list isn't, in fact, a list of 'liberal' professors. The list is compromised of professors who teach from such a leftist point of view and allow for no opposing viewpoints to be presented.
Let me give you an example of what you just said, with the subjects replaced so that you can see your error: "The list isn't a list of Ford cars. The list is compromised (sic, do i have to bust out the dictionary AGAIN?!?!) of cars made by Ford and of no other cars." ::shakes head in disbelief:: and you want to talk to me about intelligent posting?
Most of Austin is, in fact, flaming liberal.
might want to check your "facts." as i see from the polling results in the 2002 election, about 63% of the senators and House members representing Austin are Republican. that's a fact.
If you had actually visited here instead of generalizing Austin from the rest of Texas as it is represented by the media from your ivory tower in California, you'd know that.
the visit wasn't required to prove you wrong. the hard voting statistics did it for me.
Any good professor can teach with a resonable bias and, when the class size permits, allow opposing viewpoints to be presented. A good professor should also be able to take a conservative paper or essay and grade it objectively. These professors that made the list don't. That is the problem. If the issue was so cut and dry that one viewpoint was obviously right, then classes wouldn't exist about them. For the Arab/Israeli situation, liberals aren't completely correct, and neither are conservatives. So a liberal professor that belittles his students and does not provide both sides deserves to be on a blacklist.
great, i agree entirely. i assume the Yound Conservatives of Texas also created a corresponding list for conservative professors who do the same thing? Ah yes, I see they did. But there's just one little problem, one that makes a lie of your entire paragraph. they call it the "Honor Roll." Oops! Might want to read the entire page, next time, buddy.
I'd like to see an intelligent reply instead of quoting dictionary.com entries. Yea, that's real mature
the california edujmacation system, hard at work, just systematically destroyed your entire argument. ::bows::
