Apparantly all that JohnGalt, Kage69 and HeroOfPellinor can offer are thinly-veiled racist comments that betray their ignorance and hatred.
HeroOfPellinor
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Originally posted by: Fausto1
Actually no, I'm as white as they come. I just have minimal patience for assholes who crap in what is supposed to be a thread for serious discussion. I'm surprised someone with an Ayn Rand reference as their forum nick doesn't have something more substantial to offer up.Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Why don't you two go jerk each other off somewhere else, okay?Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Very nice
That is nice, too. Let me guess, you have a great, great, great, great Uncle who was a slave and you want some of my tax dollars to buy bling with? You make me laugh...keep up the good work, Faustov
Here's something substantial. That article was stupid fluff with absolutly no point. It offered no possibilities for the cause or a fix other than to say it's all the teachers fault cause they're scared white women. Thanks for posting such a brilliant work...I think we're all smarter for having read something so insightful. BTW did a family member of your write that or something and you're trying to get them an audience?
My reply, while sarcastic as hell, was right on. AA and reparations are constantly brought up by self-righteous white people like you because you're attempting to bring some shred of significance to your pathetic life by feeling like a liberator or civil rights champion when, in actuality, young black men would be better off if idiots would stop incessently reminding them that they are disadvantaged because, frankly, they are not...nobody in America is. We may start off in different situtations, but nothing is stopping any single person from succeeding except their own will. Success is available for anybody willing to work for it and courageous enough to try...but you need motivation to work hard to succeed and being told you aren't good enough without help from whitie is DEmotiviating and creates resentment.
Frankly, there's nothing to discuss in that rediculous article other than to say, yes, it was, infact, an article.
It figures that's all you would take away from the article, you fscking moron. I never said it was any kind of immediate solution to the problem, but at least this guy had the balls to come out and say that young black men need to forget about the dubs for five minutes and focus on a career if they ever really want to be anyone.Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Actually no, I'm as white as they come. I just have minimal patience for assholes who crap in what is supposed to be a thread for serious discussion. I'm surprised someone with an Ayn Rand reference as their forum nick doesn't have something more substantial to offer up.Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Why don't you two go jerk each other off somewhere else, okay?Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Very nice
That is nice, too. Let me guess, you have a great, great, great, great Uncle who was a slave and you want some of my tax dollars to buy bling with? You make me laugh...keep up the good work, Faustov
Here's something substantial. That article was stupid fluff with absolutly no point. It offered no possibilities for the cause or a fix other than to say it's all the teachers fault cause they're scared white women. Thanks for posting such a brilliant work...I think we're all smarter for having read something so insightful. BTW did a family member of your write that or something and you're trying to get them an audience?
Oh, right. Why don't you direct me to all the times I've advocated AA and reparations. (there aren't any) Furthermore, why don't you point out to me what your comments on the matter have to do with the article. (absolutely nothing)
It's typical that your only response is the tried and true right-wing blather about how black america is just sitting there with it's collective hand out waiting for your hard-earned white guy tax dollars to roll in. Your response, while about par for the course given your paltry intellect, isn't even close to being right on. The author is essentially saying the same things you are; focus on the important stuff and you'll make it. The POINT THAT YOU MISSED BECAUSE YOU WERE TOO BUSY TROLLING THIS FORUM is to stop making excuses and screwing around. The author (who is black by the way) makes no apologies for these young men failing in school.
Read the article, leave your usual ad hominem bullshit out of it, or fsck off. I'm sick of idiots like you cluttering up the forums.
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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Actually no, I'm as white as they come. I just have minimal patience for assholes who crap in what is supposed to be a thread for serious discussion. I'm surprised someone with an Ayn Rand reference as their forum nick doesn't have something more substantial to offer up.Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Why don't you two go jerk each other off somewhere else, okay?Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Very nice
That is nice, too. Let me guess, you have a great, great, great, great Uncle who was a slave and you want some of my tax dollars to buy bling with? You make me laugh...keep up the good work, Faustov
Here's something substantial. That article was stupid fluff with absolutly no point. It offered no possibilities for the cause or a fix other than to say it's all the teachers fault cause they're scared white women. Thanks for posting such a brilliant work...I think we're all smarter for having read something so insightful. BTW did a family member of your write that or something and you're trying to get them an audience?
My reply, while sarcastic as hell, was right on. AA and reparations are constantly brought up by self-righteous white people like you because you're attempting to bring some shred of significance to your pathetic life by feeling like a liberator or civil rights champion when, in actuality, young black men would be better off if idiots would stop incessently reminding them that they are disadvantaged because, frankly, they are not...nobody in America is. We may start off in different situtations, but nothing is stopping any single person from succeeding except their own will. Success is available for anybody willing to work for it and courageous enough to try...but you need motivation to work hard to succeed and being told you aren't good enough without help from whitie is DEmotiviating and creates resentment.
Frankly, there's nothing to discuss in that rediculous article other than to say, yes, it was, infact, an article.
The article was reporting an issue, not offering answers, just what's happening. It's called reporting.
I must agree that this is very much a family issue.
Its not just family, its also the environment in which they are brought up in.
Also, how do YOU expect parents to help their children in their "reports and trig", when they themselves probably didnt graduate high school? Its a catch-22, vicious cycle that will probably not be broken until long after I die.
Also, how do YOU expect parents to help their children in their "reports and trig", when they themselves probably didnt graduate high school? Its a catch-22, vicious cycle that will probably not be broken until long after I die.
This is some of the most stereotypical bullsh*t I've seen in awhile... Do you really think that lowly of black people? They're not monkeys, you know. They have thoughts and feelings just like you and I.
#1 While you may not think the rappers you mentioned are role models, the fact that they're using their talents to make a good living and not out on the streets selling drugs or mugging people is a pretty damn good start if you ask me. While their lyrics may not be relevant to you, most rappers sing about the plight of the average black man and their lyrics certainly do resonate with said average black man. Jay-Z happens to have gone from being a drug dealer to selling millions of albums a year. Which of the two do you think is better? BTW, since you've obviously never listened to Jay-Z (or any other rappers I doubt) he doesn't glorify killing mofos and f*cking hoes, he sings about his experience growing up in "da hood" and his lyrics have actual meaning to them. This doesn't mean there aren't rappers out there doing what you say they do, but it also doesn't mean that's what all rappers do. Many do exactly as Jay-Z and some even take it a step further by trying to uplift their people. Take Nas for example. The vast majority of his songs are made to help the black youth out there avoid the mistakes that some in their position make. Of course, you've never listened to Nas so you wouldn't know this.
#2 Yes, that's right. The goal of every black man is to obtain massive quantities of "bling bling" so as to obtain some cheap poontang. Where the hell did you get this idea? I have yet to meet a single black person who's sole goal in life was to get as much bling bling as humanly possible. That's not to say there aren't people out there that this applies to, but nowhere near the epidemic proportions you imply by addressing your post to black people in general.
#3 Yes, black people love living in the ghetto
#4 Other than a few wacky liberals, no one actually claims ebonics as a language.
#5 I'm sure the average black person takes great pride in the fact that a relative of theirs receives government assistance... (which is another stereotype) Welfare is like crack. If you've been beaten down by society all your life and were in fact raised in the ghetto, I doubt you'd have much desire to get off government assistance either.
#6 I won't argue this point, blasting music and acting like a thug is retarded. Once again though, not every black person does this.
#7 Most black people would disagree with you on this one. To get into corporate America one generally does have to sell out (as a black person anyway). Since when does attaining money make one a better person or bestow "enlightened" status upon them? That's just as bad a view to have as the rare black person who's sole goal in life is to get lots of flashy jewelry and get laid all the time.
#8 Why does it matter to you what political opinions the majority of black people hold? You seem not to have much respect for them anyway by your above statements that it shouldn't matter to you who they vote for. Besides, the way you've presented your arguments wouldn't sway ANYONE. Boy, nothing changes a person's opinion like being insulted
#9 This is true. JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER POLITICIAN!
#10 All I have to say to this one is bullsh*t. You can sit there and say that but you know most whites are distrustful of blacks and would rather not work with them.
Your statements are quite sad... I'm glad I no longer believe any of that crap.
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
This is some of the most stereotypical bullsh*t I've seen in awhile... Do you really think that lowly of black people? They're not monkeys, you know. They have thoughts and feelings just like you and I.
#1 While you may not think the rappers you mentioned are role models, the fact that they're using their talents to make a good living and not out on the streets selling drugs or mugging people is a pretty damn good start if you ask me. While their lyrics may not be relevant to you, most rappers sing about the plight of the average black man and their lyrics certainly do resonate with said average black man. Jay-Z happens to have gone from being a drug dealer to selling millions of albums a year. Which of the two do you think is better? BTW, since you've obviously never listened to Jay-Z (or any other rappers I doubt) he doesn't glorify killing mofos and f*cking hoes, he sings about his experience growing up in "da hood" and his lyrics have actual meaning to them. This doesn't mean there aren't rappers out there doing what you say they do, but it also doesn't mean that's what all rappers do. Many do exactly as Jay-Z and some even take it a step further by trying to uplift their people. Take Nas for example. The vast majority of his songs are made to help the black youth out there avoid the mistakes that some in their position make. Of course, you've never listened to Nas so you wouldn't know this.
#2 Yes, that's right. The goal of every black man is to obtain massive quantities of "bling bling" so as to obtain some cheap poontang. Where the hell did you get this idea? I have yet to meet a single black person who's sole goal in life was to get as much bling bling as humanly possible. That's not to say there aren't people out there that this applies to, but nowhere near the epidemic proportions you imply by addressing your post to black people in general.
#3 Yes, black people love living in the ghettoThis is just a moronic statement. I'm not even going to debate it. NO ONE WANTS TO LIVE IN THE GHETTO!
#4 Other than a few wacky liberals, no one actually claims ebonics as a language.
#5 I'm sure the average black person takes great pride in the fact that a relative of theirs receives government assistance... (which is another stereotype) Welfare is like crack. If you've been beaten down by society all your life and were in fact raised in the ghetto, I doubt you'd have much desire to get off government assistance either.
#6 I won't argue this point, blasting music and acting like a thug is retarded. Once again though, not every black person does this.
#7 Most black people would disagree with you on this one. To get into corporate America one generally does have to sell out (as a black person anyway). Since when does attaining money make one a better person or bestow "enlightened" status upon them? That's just as bad a view to have as the rare black person who's sole goal in life is to get lots of flashy jewelry and get laid all the time.
#8 Why does it matter to you what political opinions the majority of black people hold? You seem not to have much respect for them anyway by your above statements that it shouldn't matter to you who they vote for. Besides, the way you've presented your arguments wouldn't sway ANYONE. Boy, nothing changes a person's opinion like being insulted
#9 This is true. JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER POLITICIAN!
#10 All I have to say to this one is bullsh*t. You can sit there and say that but you know most whites are distrustful of blacks and would rather not work with them.
Your statements are quite sad... I'm glad I no longer believe any of that crap.
1.) Yes because trying to being a famous Gangster Rapper ( of which maybe less then 1% of the black population will ever be ! ) instead of a doctor is a good career choice/goal and great role modeling. Get real and wake the hell up !
2.) It may not be their goal but some of them sure ass hell make it harder on themselves to "Get out the Hood". You don't get out of the ghetto by being lazy, ignorant, hostile, and then making up excuses for yourself and blaming others as to why you never succeeded in life.
4.) LoL - You never been to Oakland have you ! Or dealt with kids who flat out deny that their use of slang is not a separate language because mommy said so.
5.) Yes society is always at fault here right ? I mean it could of never of been the bad decisions they made as youth's to try to be the biggest and toughest thug/rapper in the hood instead of working towards the goal of going to college right ??
6.) He never implied that every black person does this. He was just pointing out that this does not lead to success in life.
7.) LOL - So I guess not using slang in the work place is selling out ? Come on ! Corporate America is almost entirely all about professionalism and how you carry yourself as a person. Of course I will not say that their is no racism in Corporate America BUT if you act professional and behave in a similar manner a large percentage of people will and shall show you respect and treat you accordingly.
8.) No I think he is just saying the same thing as remark number 7. Choosing a particular party or political affiliation does not mean you are a sellout ! The problem with black people today is that the majority them tend to box themselves into corners because it's popular amongst themselves to do so. What has the democratic party ever done to really up lift the black community ? While I agree that Rep's have rarely if ever cared about or even try'd to help out the black community. Yet it still does not mean that individuals should be labeled as outcasts if they want to build bridges with Rep's or any other group political group.
9.) Well if a person cultivates a aura of thug-ism and brings a gangster mentality, well then people will and shall be afraid of him/her. This is just a fact of life that people do not like people who behave like and admire gangsters. If the person comes off as being professional and courteous then you'd be surprise at the type of response that person would receive.
In the end his statements are all dead on target IMHO.
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
This is some of the most stereotypical bullsh*t I've seen in awhile... Do you really think that lowly of black people? They're not monkeys, you know. They have thoughts and feelings just like you and I.
#1 While you may not think the rappers you mentioned are role models, the fact that they're using their talents to make a good living and not out on the streets selling drugs or mugging people is a pretty damn good start if you ask me. While their lyrics may not be relevant to you, most rappers sing about the plight of the average black man and their lyrics certainly do resonate with said average black man. Jay-Z happens to have gone from being a drug dealer to selling millions of albums a year. Which of the two do you think is better? BTW, since you've obviously never listened to Jay-Z (or any other rappers I doubt) he doesn't glorify killing mofos and f*cking hoes, he sings about his experience growing up in "da hood" and his lyrics have actual meaning to them. This doesn't mean there aren't rappers out there doing what you say they do, but it also doesn't mean that's what all rappers do. Many do exactly as Jay-Z and some even take it a step further by trying to uplift their people. Take Nas for example. The vast majority of his songs are made to help the black youth out there avoid the mistakes that some in their position make. Of course, you've never listened to Nas so you wouldn't know this.
#2 Yes, that's right. The goal of every black man is to obtain massive quantities of "bling bling" so as to obtain some cheap poontang. Where the hell did you get this idea? I have yet to meet a single black person who's sole goal in life was to get as much bling bling as humanly possible. That's not to say there aren't people out there that this applies to, but nowhere near the epidemic proportions you imply by addressing your post to black people in general.
#3 Yes, black people love living in the ghettoThis is just a moronic statement. I'm not even going to debate it. NO ONE WANTS TO LIVE IN THE GHETTO!
#4 Other than a few wacky liberals, no one actually claims ebonics as a language.
#5 I'm sure the average black person takes great pride in the fact that a relative of theirs receives government assistance... (which is another stereotype) Welfare is like crack. If you've been beaten down by society all your life and were in fact raised in the ghetto, I doubt you'd have much desire to get off government assistance either.
#6 I won't argue this point, blasting music and acting like a thug is retarded. Once again though, not every black person does this.
#7 Most black people would disagree with you on this one. To get into corporate America one generally does have to sell out (as a black person anyway). Since when does attaining money make one a better person or bestow "enlightened" status upon them? That's just as bad a view to have as the rare black person who's sole goal in life is to get lots of flashy jewelry and get laid all the time.
#8 Why does it matter to you what political opinions the majority of black people hold? You seem not to have much respect for them anyway by your above statements that it shouldn't matter to you who they vote for. Besides, the way you've presented your arguments wouldn't sway ANYONE. Boy, nothing changes a person's opinion like being insulted
#9 This is true. JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER POLITICIAN!
#10 All I have to say to this one is bullsh*t. You can sit there and say that but you know most whites are distrustful of blacks and would rather not work with them.
Your statements are quite sad... I'm glad I no longer believe any of that crap.
1.) Yes because trying to being a famous Gangster Rapper ( of which maybe less then 1% of the black population will ever be ! ) instead of a doctor is a good career choice/goal and great role modeling. Get real and wake the hell up !
2.) It may not be their goal but some of them sure ass hell make it harder on themselves to "Get out the Hood". You don't get out of the ghetto by being lazy, ignorant, hostile, and then making up excuses for yourself and blaming others as to why you never succeeded in life.
4.) LoL - You never been to Oakland have you ! Or dealt with kids who flat out deny that their use of slang is not a separate language because mommy said so.
5.) Yes society is always at fault here right ? I mean it could of never of been the bad decisions they made as youth's to try to be the biggest and toughest thug/rapper in the hood instead of working towards the goal of going to college right ??
6.) He never implied that every black person does this. He was just pointing out that this does not lead to success in life.
7.) LOL - So I guess not using slang in the work place is selling out ? Come on ! Corporate America is almost entirely all about professionalism and how you carry yourself as a person. Of course I will not say that their is no racism in Corporate America BUT if you act professional and behave in a similar manner a large percentage of people will and shall show you respect and treat you accordingly.
8.) No I think he is just saying the same thing as remark number 7. Choosing a particular party or political affiliation does not mean you are a sellout ! The problem with black people today is that the majority them tend to box themselves into corners because it's popular amongst themselves to do so. What has the democratic party ever done to really up lift the black community ? While I agree that Rep's have rarely if ever cared about or even try'd to help out the black community. Yet it still does not mean that individuals should be labeled as outcasts if they want to build bridges with Rep's or any other group political group.
9.) Well if a person cultivates a aura of thug-ism and brings a gangster mentality, well then people will and shall be afraid of him/her. This is just a fact of life that people do not like people who behave like and admire gangsters. If the person comes off as being professional and courteous then you'd be surprise at the type of response that person would receive.
In the end his statements are all dead on target IMHO.
In regards to affirmation two, no one in "the town" (oakland) thinks ebonics is a seperate language.
By the time Blacks are in high school it's too late for a fundamental change in mentality, you need to have that from an early age or else chances for redemption are slim.
Good article... but I didn't appreciate the doo-rag bit...
I like my doo-rags =(
Originally posted by: Gnote
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
This is some of the most stereotypical bullsh*t I've seen in awhile... Do you really think that lowly of black people? They're not monkeys, you know. They have thoughts and feelings just like you and I.
#1 While you may not think the rappers you mentioned are role models, the fact that they're using their talents to make a good living and not out on the streets selling drugs or mugging people is a pretty damn good start if you ask me. While their lyrics may not be relevant to you, most rappers sing about the plight of the average black man and their lyrics certainly do resonate with said average black man. Jay-Z happens to have gone from being a drug dealer to selling millions of albums a year. Which of the two do you think is better? BTW, since you've obviously never listened to Jay-Z (or any other rappers I doubt) he doesn't glorify killing mofos and f*cking hoes, he sings about his experience growing up in "da hood" and his lyrics have actual meaning to them. This doesn't mean there aren't rappers out there doing what you say they do, but it also doesn't mean that's what all rappers do. Many do exactly as Jay-Z and some even take it a step further by trying to uplift their people. Take Nas for example. The vast majority of his songs are made to help the black youth out there avoid the mistakes that some in their position make. Of course, you've never listened to Nas so you wouldn't know this.
#2 Yes, that's right. The goal of every black man is to obtain massive quantities of "bling bling" so as to obtain some cheap poontang. Where the hell did you get this idea? I have yet to meet a single black person who's sole goal in life was to get as much bling bling as humanly possible. That's not to say there aren't people out there that this applies to, but nowhere near the epidemic proportions you imply by addressing your post to black people in general.
#3 Yes, black people love living in the ghettoThis is just a moronic statement. I'm not even going to debate it. NO ONE WANTS TO LIVE IN THE GHETTO!
#4 Other than a few wacky liberals, no one actually claims ebonics as a language.
#5 I'm sure the average black person takes great pride in the fact that a relative of theirs receives government assistance... (which is another stereotype) Welfare is like crack. If you've been beaten down by society all your life and were in fact raised in the ghetto, I doubt you'd have much desire to get off government assistance either.
#6 I won't argue this point, blasting music and acting like a thug is retarded. Once again though, not every black person does this.
#7 Most black people would disagree with you on this one. To get into corporate America one generally does have to sell out (as a black person anyway). Since when does attaining money make one a better person or bestow "enlightened" status upon them? That's just as bad a view to have as the rare black person who's sole goal in life is to get lots of flashy jewelry and get laid all the time.
#8 Why does it matter to you what political opinions the majority of black people hold? You seem not to have much respect for them anyway by your above statements that it shouldn't matter to you who they vote for. Besides, the way you've presented your arguments wouldn't sway ANYONE. Boy, nothing changes a person's opinion like being insulted
#9 This is true. JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER POLITICIAN!
#10 All I have to say to this one is bullsh*t. You can sit there and say that but you know most whites are distrustful of blacks and would rather not work with them.
Your statements are quite sad... I'm glad I no longer believe any of that crap.
1.) Yes because trying to being a famous Gangster Rapper ( of which maybe less then 1% of the black population will ever be ! ) instead of a doctor is a good career choice/goal and great role modeling. Get real and wake the hell up !
2.) It may not be their goal but some of them sure ass hell make it harder on themselves to "Get out the Hood". You don't get out of the ghetto by being lazy, ignorant, hostile, and then making up excuses for yourself and blaming others as to why you never succeeded in life.
4.) LoL - You never been to Oakland have you ! Or dealt with kids who flat out deny that their use of slang is not a separate language because mommy said so.
5.) Yes society is always at fault here right ? I mean it could of never of been the bad decisions they made as youth's to try to be the biggest and toughest thug/rapper in the hood instead of working towards the goal of going to college right ??
6.) He never implied that every black person does this. He was just pointing out that this does not lead to success in life.
7.) LOL - So I guess not using slang in the work place is selling out ? Come on ! Corporate America is almost entirely all about professionalism and how you carry yourself as a person. Of course I will not say that their is no racism in Corporate America BUT if you act professional and behave in a similar manner a large percentage of people will and shall show you respect and treat you accordingly.
8.) No I think he is just saying the same thing as remark number 7. Choosing a particular party or political affiliation does not mean you are a sellout ! The problem with black people today is that the majority them tend to box themselves into corners because it's popular amongst themselves to do so. What has the democratic party ever done to really up lift the black community ? While I agree that Rep's have rarely if ever cared about or even try'd to help out the black community. Yet it still does not mean that individuals should be labeled as outcasts if they want to build bridges with Rep's or any other group political group.
9.) Well if a person cultivates a aura of thug-ism and brings a gangster mentality, well then people will and shall be afraid of him/her. This is just a fact of life that people do not like people who behave like and admire gangsters. If the person comes off as being professional and courteous then you'd be surprise at the type of response that person would receive.
In the end his statements are all dead on target IMHO.
In regards to affirmation two, no one in "the town" (oakland) thinks ebonics is a seperate language.
Oakland is the birth place of this Ebonics crap'ola.
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: Gnote
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
This is some of the most stereotypical bullsh*t I've seen in awhile... Do you really think that lowly of black people? They're not monkeys, you know. They have thoughts and feelings just like you and I.
#1 While you may not think the rappers you mentioned are role models, the fact that they're using their talents to make a good living and not out on the streets selling drugs or mugging people is a pretty damn good start if you ask me. While their lyrics may not be relevant to you, most rappers sing about the plight of the average black man and their lyrics certainly do resonate with said average black man. Jay-Z happens to have gone from being a drug dealer to selling millions of albums a year. Which of the two do you think is better? BTW, since you've obviously never listened to Jay-Z (or any other rappers I doubt) he doesn't glorify killing mofos and f*cking hoes, he sings about his experience growing up in "da hood" and his lyrics have actual meaning to them. This doesn't mean there aren't rappers out there doing what you say they do, but it also doesn't mean that's what all rappers do. Many do exactly as Jay-Z and some even take it a step further by trying to uplift their people. Take Nas for example. The vast majority of his songs are made to help the black youth out there avoid the mistakes that some in their position make. Of course, you've never listened to Nas so you wouldn't know this.
#2 Yes, that's right. The goal of every black man is to obtain massive quantities of "bling bling" so as to obtain some cheap poontang. Where the hell did you get this idea? I have yet to meet a single black person who's sole goal in life was to get as much bling bling as humanly possible. That's not to say there aren't people out there that this applies to, but nowhere near the epidemic proportions you imply by addressing your post to black people in general.
#3 Yes, black people love living in the ghettoThis is just a moronic statement. I'm not even going to debate it. NO ONE WANTS TO LIVE IN THE GHETTO!
#4 Other than a few wacky liberals, no one actually claims ebonics as a language.
#5 I'm sure the average black person takes great pride in the fact that a relative of theirs receives government assistance... (which is another stereotype) Welfare is like crack. If you've been beaten down by society all your life and were in fact raised in the ghetto, I doubt you'd have much desire to get off government assistance either.
#6 I won't argue this point, blasting music and acting like a thug is retarded. Once again though, not every black person does this.
#7 Most black people would disagree with you on this one. To get into corporate America one generally does have to sell out (as a black person anyway). Since when does attaining money make one a better person or bestow "enlightened" status upon them? That's just as bad a view to have as the rare black person who's sole goal in life is to get lots of flashy jewelry and get laid all the time.
#8 Why does it matter to you what political opinions the majority of black people hold? You seem not to have much respect for them anyway by your above statements that it shouldn't matter to you who they vote for. Besides, the way you've presented your arguments wouldn't sway ANYONE. Boy, nothing changes a person's opinion like being insulted
#9 This is true. JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER POLITICIAN!
#10 All I have to say to this one is bullsh*t. You can sit there and say that but you know most whites are distrustful of blacks and would rather not work with them.
Your statements are quite sad... I'm glad I no longer believe any of that crap.
1.) Yes because trying to being a famous Gangster Rapper ( of which maybe less then 1% of the black population will ever be ! ) instead of a doctor is a good career choice/goal and great role modeling. Get real and wake the hell up !
2.) It may not be their goal but some of them sure ass hell make it harder on themselves to "Get out the Hood". You don't get out of the ghetto by being lazy, ignorant, hostile, and then making up excuses for yourself and blaming others as to why you never succeeded in life.
4.) LoL - You never been to Oakland have you ! Or dealt with kids who flat out deny that their use of slang is not a separate language because mommy said so.
5.) Yes society is always at fault here right ? I mean it could of never of been the bad decisions they made as youth's to try to be the biggest and toughest thug/rapper in the hood instead of working towards the goal of going to college right ??
6.) He never implied that every black person does this. He was just pointing out that this does not lead to success in life.
7.) LOL - So I guess not using slang in the work place is selling out ? Come on ! Corporate America is almost entirely all about professionalism and how you carry yourself as a person. Of course I will not say that their is no racism in Corporate America BUT if you act professional and behave in a similar manner a large percentage of people will and shall show you respect and treat you accordingly.
8.) No I think he is just saying the same thing as remark number 7. Choosing a particular party or political affiliation does not mean you are a sellout ! The problem with black people today is that the majority them tend to box themselves into corners because it's popular amongst themselves to do so. What has the democratic party ever done to really up lift the black community ? While I agree that Rep's have rarely if ever cared about or even try'd to help out the black community. Yet it still does not mean that individuals should be labeled as outcasts if they want to build bridges with Rep's or any other group political group.
9.) Well if a person cultivates a aura of thug-ism and brings a gangster mentality, well then people will and shall be afraid of him/her. This is just a fact of life that people do not like people who behave like and admire gangsters. If the person comes off as being professional and courteous then you'd be surprise at the type of response that person would receive.
In the end his statements are all dead on target IMHO.
In regards to affirmation two, no one in "the town" (oakland) thinks ebonics is a seperate language.
Oakland is the birth place of this Ebonics crap'ola.
By SCHOOL administrators and bureaucrats that thought they were doing something new and innovating to battle bad test scores and drop out rates?
Think about it, do you really think the parents of kids that go to Skyline, Castlemont, Foothill, Oakland Tech, and other Oakland schools went to School site meetings and complained to the council that because class in school were being taught in ?proper English? so their kids couldn?t learn?
This Ebonics nonsense was probably developed by some grad-student Afro-American or professor at UC Berkeley and picked up by an Oakland School Council desperate to improve test scores, not by the kids or the parents of kids attending the OUSD.
but you don't mind it when our society benefits overpriledged white people and hands them less important jobs like ...president of the USA when they're hardly qualified?
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The key words here are "he said" I would say that there is probably no truth to his statement, juist another racist that blames all his problems and failures on those "damm black people".
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It's not just "damn black people". Any minority-owned business qualifies for expedited contract processing under 8(a) government contracting.
It's safe to say the real problem these kids face is the racism they face as exhibited by the statements made in this thread.
I really don't think that's the case. Racism is alive and well, but "whitey" doesn't need to bother keeping "the brothers" (tounge planted in cheek here) down if they're literally their own worst enemy. Racism is little more than an annoyance if you're not even close to entering the workplace and moving up the social food chain. I think that's essentially the point the author is trying to make; that the kids and their parents have to break the cycle on their own. The sub-lesson is that the state of the black family in the US is in dire need of an overhaul. I recall someone posting what seemed like an absurdly high figure for black kids born out of wedlock; I was all ready to flame the guy, but went and looked up the stat for myself first and damn if it wasn't factual. A single parent who's working three jobs just to pay the rent hardly has time to impart wisdom and guidance to her kids. My wife's sister was a teacher in inner-city Houston for several years and one of the biggest challenges she faced with her kids was getting the parents to actually give a sh*t and correct the kid if he/she wasn't doing well or misbehaving. Most of the parents were just non-entities in the kid's lives. Sad.
I have to disagree. Racism is the root of the problem. It's easy to say racism isn't when you're not the victim of it.
These kids carry the extra burden racism imposes on them daily as evidenced by some of the posts above.
It's a contributing factor IMHO, but not the root of the problem. The kid's already got two strikes against him with an absentee father and mom working three jobs. If he starts to slide, there's no one there to stop him and put him back on track. In my childhood if I came home with bad grades or got detention there were going to be reprecussions; as such, I got good grades and didn't get in trouble much. Obviously, this isn't the absolute cure since there are junior felons running around whose parents are very involved in their lives, but parental involvement certainly helps.
As before, racism isn't going away, but I don't think it's necessarily the root of the problem. If it were, you wouldn't see the statistical differences between black boys and black girls.
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