You think you want to know how to work on cars, but you really don't.

notfred

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In every car thread someone always posts a message like "I wish I knew how to fix cars". You think you do, but you really don't want to know. Cars suck, they're a pain in the ass. You think a cheap PC case has sharp edges? Try reaching through the dashboard of a car to the firewall. It's like reaching through a twisting turning maze of cheap PC cases, where the widest holes are about 1/2" narrower than your arm. I think about half the skin on my right arm is missing...

All this to replace a speedometer cable, which, of course, took half an hour to get through the firewall in the first place. You have a cable that's roughly as flexible as re-bar, and you have to bend it 70 degrees in a space about 2 inches wide to thread it through a hole that's just slightly smaller than the connector at the end of the cable. An hour later, once you've got that through the firewall, you get to put the dash back together, which requires you to be able to put the gauge cluster within 1/2" of the dash, and then somehow reach behind it to plug in electrical connections.

After the dash is back together, you get to crawl under the car into a big pile of greasy dirt, to attempt to hook the cable up to the transmission. Only n ow do you discover that the end of the cable, which is supposed to fit inside a VSS sensor, is about 1/16" too big to fit in there. So, you spend the next half hour sitting in the dirt next to the car with a file, since the cable is only so long and you can only lift it about 1 foot off the ground.

Eventually, you've reduced the size of the cable to fit in the VSS, so you hook that up, and spend the next 20 minutes trying to wedge the VSS/Speedo cable assembly into the transmission, where there's exactly 1/2" too little room above the crossmember to fit it.

Eventually, 2 hours later and covered in blood and dirt, you get to start the car and find that the speedo needle no longer bounces up and down about 10mph on either side of your actual speed while driving. Was it worth it?
 

Rogue

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Real men tell the mechanic EXACTLY what's wrong with their ride, then go home and drink beer and scratch balls while some other sap works on your ride getting cut all to hell cuz he couldn't go to college and chose to go to the local tech college instead! :beer:
 

JC

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I gave up mechanicking because it's a lousy way to make a living!


BTW, I drive by the tach.....;)
 

KokomoGST

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Yup, even simple "bolt ons" can be a giant PITA... you may see those car shows where people work on cars like if everything comes off with little or no effort. HAHHAHAHAHAH!!!

Burned the hairs off your arm on the downpipe after sitting under the car trying to get the seized bolts on your front control arms off?
Twisting your arm like a pretzel to get that IC pipe tightened down? Spent a few hours hitting your old rusted to crap rotors a BFH to get them off? Messing with vise grips to get the brake lines off? Going through the firewall is an absolute BEEYACH... I did it the cheap@$$ ghetto way. I've heard of the slow death that is the speedo cable from enough people. Even just taking out the factory instrument panel has a lot of painful consequences.

Even at this puny little bolt-on level I'm at... nothing is ever as easy as you think it will be.
 

elzmaddy

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Car ignorant person here, but I can tell from your thread there was a lot of frustration and feeling of defeat. Sorry to hear about it.

BTW, I didn't know cars used firewalls too. ;) Neat!
 

PCMarine

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Originally posted by: elzmaddy
Car ignorant person here, but I can tell from your thread there was a lot of frustration and feeling of defeat. Sorry to hear about it.

BTW, I didn't know cars used firewalls too. ;) Neat!

lmao
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: Cyberian
Was it worth it?
I have no way to judge that.
I sure get a small rush when/if I finish a job even less demanding than your recent escapade.

Yeah, I mean, when it's done you get that sense of satisfaction that it works, and you did it yoursef, and that's why you keep doing it again and again, but the actual act of working on it sucks :)
 

Soybomb

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Yeah......i used to enjoy it and I really hate it now. Its just too much work and time. Too many siezed fittings, snapping bolts, tight spaces, etc.
 

HappyPuppy

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Ah, poor babies. You worked on your cars for a few hours and got a boo-boo on your arm. You should be given the Congressional Medal of Honor for your amateur efforts.

I worked 25 years, usually 12 hours a day 6 days a week in the Operting Engineers as a Heavy Equipment Mechanic/Welder. Working in the snowy freezing cold of the mountains and the searing heat of the desert where temps. rose to 115 degrees and the equipment you were working on was over 250 degrees. I had to be an expert at mechaics, diesels, gas engines, pneumatics, hydraulics and also a welder. Every hour a machine wasn't working cost my employer ~$200/hr. Wheels weighed in the tons, brake shoes close to 100lbs/ea., piston liners were pulled with a crane after welding a bar across them. Sitting on top of an engine changing a turbo charger on a hot machine made you puke with near heat exhaustion.

Yep, I really admire you.:p
 

boyRacer

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Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Ah, poor babies. You worked on your cars for a few hours and got a boo-boo on your arm. You should be given the Congressional Medal of Honor for your amateur efforts.

I worked 25 years, usually 12 hours a day 6 days a week in the Operting Engineers as a Heavy Equipment Mechanic/Welder. Working in the snowy freezing cold of the mountains and the searing heat of the desert where temps. rose to 115 degrees and the equipment you were working on was over 250 degrees. I had to be an expert at mechaics, diesels, gas engines, pneumatics, hydraulics and also a welder. Every hour a machine wasn't working cost my employer ~$200/hr. Wheels weighed in the tons, brake shoes close to 100lbs/ea., piston liners were pulled with a crane after welding a bar across them. Sitting on top of an engine changing a turbo charger on a hot machine made you puke with near heat exhaustion.

Yep, I really admire you.:p

Wow... wish i know what you know... but you're right... i wouldn't enjoy doing that too much other than on my own car.
 

SWScorch

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my father and I usually fix our own vehicles, and yeah, it's a pain in the ass. I had to replace the heater coil in my car a few weeks back, and jesus, that was so damn uncomfortable. You had to contort your entire beody just to get leverage on the bolts, and remove the entire dashboard... Almost as bad as the time we spent a few weekends replacing the head gasket on his Isuzu Trooper.
 

ElFenix

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car repair is always best with some buds. both friends and beer.