You knew it was coming

[xboxist]

Originally posted by: RKS
I usually take extra for dog poop.

Same, except cat poop.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: Pepsei

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: Pepsei
they do this in taiwan a few years ago already. for small stores, they charge ~3 cents for plastic bags. bigger stores use paper bags.

also, for those of you who's against this.... do you think you're not already paying for the bags anyway? the cost is spread around in all the grocery you buy already.

That got rescinded in a hurry. Is it back on?

it was rescinded? as far as i know it is still on, they even stop fast food restaurants and supermarkets issuing plastic knives, forks and cups. well, good thing people usually eat with throw away chopsticks anyway.

i'll check with my parents, they're there for 2 weeks vacation.

Yeap, got rescinded. I think it's back on in terms of charging for bag, but the vendors just put a pile of bag just outside the door and the customers just grab them by themselves, so the store is not providing bags

 

[Pepsei]

Originally posted by: sdifox


Yeap, got rescinded. I think it's back on in terms of charging for bag, but the vendors just put a pile of bag just outside the door and the customers just grab them by themselves, so the store is not providing bags

wow, if that's the case, being a typical Taiwanese myself, i find it hard to believe they would still have bags out there the next day.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: SSSnail
This is nothing new, in parts of the world.

I think it's a brilliant idea, saves the planet as well. Certain stores will have reusable bags that you can purchase to... reuse while shopping. There's absolutely no reasons why we should waste all the resources into making all these bags, paper or plastic.

You really think 5 cent bags is going to save the planet? All it will do is introduce a regressive tax on the poorest ring of a nation. All this is govt grabbing more wealth in the name of the envrionment. You will note they didnt ban the bags. Instead created a new revenue stream.

Nope, government doesn't take the money.

The original plan was 10cents a bag, paid by the store (they would be free to offer incentives to customers to not take bags). This got changed overnight and behind closed doors to a customer-pays system. That part smells like dirty-pool, but I'm still not against the concept.

I don't live in Toronto, but I hope if the idea comes here, it's a little different.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: xboxist

Originally posted by: RKS
I usually take extra for dog poop.

Same, except cat poop.

same except twins poop. :laugh: :laugh:

 

[DrPizza]

I think we need to recycle less so that mining of landfills becomes a lucrative enough idea in the future that someone will eventually recycle all that stuff.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
I think we need to recycle less so that mining of landfills becomes a lucrative enough idea in the future that someone will eventually recycle all that stuff.

Imagine the smell though.

 

[SoulAssassin]

Originally posted by: Bootprint
Who's getting the money collected by this? The store or the city? Does this mean they're going to have to start hiring more by-law officers?

IKEA, I believe, donates to charity which I think is the right thing to do. I honestly don't believe that it costs them a nickel each to manufacture, package and ship a plastic bag. I agree with the concept here but not that the stores should make a profit on it. Either charge actual cost or donate to charity.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
I think we need to recycle less so that mining of landfills becomes a lucrative enough idea in the future that someone will eventually recycle all that stuff.

They already produce methane from those. Running out of landfill space really isn't a big scare either.

 

[LordMorpheus]

Whole goods has done this for a while.

They don't say they are charging you for bags, but you get a discount if you bring your own / don't need their bags.

It's not much, and I think their motivation is more treehuggery than nickle-and-dimery, but I keep my bags and re-use them (I'm in there with target, kroger, autozone bags all the time).

I probably wouldn't be at whole foods as often if it weren't three minutes walking from my door.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: spidey07
I will not shop at those stores then and I will make sure they know exactly why - it's bullshit. And don't scoff at it being a gubment idea, it's already being proposed by a lot of cities/states. This shit is getting out of hand. Then again gubment says we can't have our house at 70 degress and drive SUVs anymore, no those times are over.

:roll: People like you and their bullshit slippery slopes are out of control.

Originally posted by: IGBT
..typical eco-KOOK BS. hold fast. there's plenty more on the way from the obama.

Oh look. There's another pathetic hack. :roll:

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Turin39789
iirc 1% of them get recycled.

that's a shame.

my local grocery store has a bin right in front of it for recycling bags... after I get home and unload my groceries, I stuff all the plastic bags inside another bag, hang it on my kitchen doorknob, and take it with me the next time I go shopping to recycle.

We sorta do the same. We use them for trash bags in the bathroom and to take lunch to work. I've got an entire 1/2 of a drawer here @ work. I stuff them in it when I'm finished and when it gets full I stuff them all in one bag and bring them home to either reuse or take to the grocery.

My employer recycles aluminum cans for the Ronald McDonald House so I use the grocery bags to bring my aluminum cans from home. Recently a woman here in our dept put a plastics recycling bin in the office so I use them to transport plastics from home as well. That large plastics bin fills up about once per month. I know it isn't much but every little bit helps.

Anyway, I wouldn't mind seeing a 'deposit' on these bags. It would reduce the amount of plastic waste and it wouldn't require much effort. IMO we have way too much a 'throwaway attitude' in this country.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Deeko, embrace your inner hippy.

Sweet! Bookmarked that link. I would have picked up 5 or so but will have to hold off because my POS Volkswagaon broke down. Again. I swear I don't know how they sell cars. Speaking of that. I have to go put a 'VW Warning' in my sig...

 

[Robor]

oops

 

[meltdown75]

i use my President's Choice cloth bags and get extra PC points

the trouble is trying to remember to actually bring them in from my trunk

 

[0roo0roo]

good it hasnt reached here yet. its a load of sh*t really. many people probably use a years supply of bags worth of gas energy just driving to the supermarket. this stuff is total greenwash. plastic bags are pretty damn efficient, and get reused probably the most out of our throw away packaging goes. probably nullify a weeks worth just by going to starbucks or mcdonalds and ordering out. what next? bring your own cup? your own plate and napkin to mcdonalds?

give me a break. these are bs measures that are symbolic of lefty yuppy guilt. feel good symbolic actions that take their mind off reality while sadistically inconveniencing everyone else.
these are people that take vacations overseas on massively polluting airlines and then come back and do some morally righteous bullsh*t carbon saving measure when their single trip probably used enough energy to make many multiple lifetimes worth of bags. they then work out their douchy inconsistency by screwing everyone else while walking around flaunting their canvas bags as badges of their worthiness.

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
good it hasnt reached here yet. its a load of sh*t really. many people probably use a years supply of bags worth of gas energy just driving to the supermarket. this stuff is total greenwash. plastic bags are pretty damn efficient, and get reused probably the most out of our throw away packaging goes. probably nullify a weeks worth just by going to starbucks or mcdonalds and ordering out. what next? bring your own cup? your own plate and napkin to mcdonalds?

give me a break. these are bs measures that are symbolic of lefty yuppy guilt.

nah, pretty much fail on all counts

it's not really a big deal unless you make it one, like you're trying to do in your post

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
good it hasnt reached here yet. its a load of sh*t really. many people probably use a years supply of bags worth of gas energy just driving to the supermarket. this stuff is total greenwash. plastic bags are pretty damn efficient, and get reused probably the most out of our throw away packaging goes. probably nullify a weeks worth just by going to starbucks or mcdonalds and ordering out. what next? bring your own cup? your own plate and napkin to mcdonalds?


give me a break. these are bs measures that are symbolic of lefty yuppy guilt. feel good symbolic actions that take their mind off reality while sadistically inconveniencing everyone else. these are people that take vacations overseas on massively polluting airlines and then come back and do some morally righteous bullsh*t carbon saving measure when their single trip probably used enough energy to make many multiple lifetimes worth of bags. they then work out their douchy inconsistency by screwing everyone else while walking around flaunting their canvas bags as badges of their worthiness.

nah, pretty much fail on all counts

it's not really a big deal unless you make it one, like you're trying to do in your post

you really are a one trick pony arent ya.

 

[randomlinh]

i'm indifferent on the matter. I love the resuable bags for one reason: a hell of a lot more durable than triple bagging since the plastic bags they use now are so worthless. I would prefer they give a discount incentive to users of resuable bags because well, as stated, we never throw them out.. great for small trashcans. or carrying small things through the rain. plenty of uses.

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
good it hasnt reached here yet. its a load of sh*t really. many people probably use a years supply of bags worth of gas energy just driving to the supermarket. this stuff is total greenwash. plastic bags are pretty damn efficient, and get reused probably the most out of our throw away packaging goes. probably nullify a weeks worth just by going to starbucks or mcdonalds and ordering out. what next? bring your own cup? your own plate and napkin to mcdonalds?


give me a break. these are bs measures that are symbolic of lefty yuppy guilt. feel good symbolic actions that take their mind off reality while sadistically inconveniencing everyone else.

nah, pretty much fail on all counts

it's not really a big deal unless you make it one, like you're trying to do in your post

you really are a one trick pony arent ya.

what do you mean by that? cheer up chum :beer:

 

[meltdown75]

one trick pony with my reusable grocery bags, wot wot

 

[EMPshockwave82]

Soon enough we will all be required to use hemp bags that are reusable. Supermarkets and retail stores will not offer bags to place items in but rather expect you to bring your own.


Honestly, I'm not too amazed by the idea. In the next 10 years I think we will see quite a few more processes like this put in place. I'm not a tree hugger by any means but certain countries make a much larger impact on the environment than others.

 

[Deadtrees]

Originally posted by: mundane
I saw an article referring to an East Asian nation (the first world ones are probably all doing it by now) in which residents had to pay a fee per garbage bag, and only the officially sanctioned bags would be accepted for pickup. Really limited trash output, and encouraged the citizens to extensively recycle.

That is South Korea. Not only you have to buy bags for garbage, there're different types of garbage bags for different garbages. Recycle is divided by like 10 sections and they divide all matrials accordingly.

Needless to say, it's a good system that works. People who care will find a way to save money and those who don't care will be either fored to care or pay more for their ignorance.
Good example of how incentive system(in terms of economic theory) works.

 

[Deeko]

I would move out of such a fascist hell hole in a heartbeat.

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: Deeko
I would move out of such a fascist hell hole in a heartbeat.

LOL @ calling South Korea a "fascist hellhole". So are regulations that encourage the use of reusable bags fascist, communist or both? I really wish you'd keep your rants consistent.

And I don't think stores would care about the small minority (i.e. you) who would rather drive over to Costco for everything rather than paying maybe 50 cents for bags or using your own. Enjoy your five gallons of ketchup, by the way.