You knew it was coming

[imported_Imp]

Originally posted by: skace

Originally posted by: Genx87
You really think 5 cent bags is going to save the planet? All it will do is introduce a regressive tax on the poorest ring of a nation. All this is govt grabbing more wealth in the name of the envrionment. You will note they didnt ban the bags. Instead created a new revenue stream.

1. It isn't a government tax because the money doesn't go to the government, it goes to the retailer.

2. It's good for the environment because it "encourages" people to use re-useable bags instead of throwaway, always a good thing -- regardless of whether said bag is recycled or recycleable.

3. It's not forced because you can still pay a small fee and get the throw away bags.

I'd like to pretend this is an environment related decision, but that's just sugar coating it, it's a monetary decision on the side of retailers. They want to make money off of a service they've been giving away for free.

If I recall correctly, the initial idea was to give consumers a 10 cent 'discount' if they decided not to take a bag. Of course, this loaded the cost onto retailers, so the comprimise is what you see now.

Psh, I wish we had bag recycling for years. I think Toronto finally gets it this month, so yea.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: Deeko

Absolutely, what's not to understand? I don't like that the store is doing that, so I'm not giving them my business. It can't be any simpler than that.

Again, it's ALL the stores.

again - this wouldn't affect Costco because they sell food in large quantities/boxes and thus don't have bags of any sort. They would be unaffected by this law. Therefore I would not be going to a store that is affected by this change.

No you wouldn't.

I already go to Costco, kid. I only go to the grocery store for the perishable things like milk, fruit, bread....but it wouldn't be that hard for me to get that stuff at Costco too.

So nice try, hippy.

 

[Pepsei]

they do this in taiwan a few years ago already. for small stores, they charge ~3 cents for plastic bags. bigger stores use paper bags.

also, for those of you who's against this.... do you think you're not already paying for the bags anyway? the cost is spread around in all the grocery you buy already.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: SSSnail
This is nothing new, in parts of the world.

I think it's a brilliant idea, saves the planet as well. Certain stores will have reusable bags that you can purchase to... reuse while shopping. There's absolutely no reasons why we should waste all the resources into making all these bags, paper or plastic.

Agreed. I bought a bunch of those reusable bags they sell at my local grocery store. They are much stronger than the plastic bags and I'm creating less waste.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Deeko

I already go to Costco, kid. I only go to the grocery store for the perishable things like milk, fruit, bread....but it wouldn't be that hard for me to get that stuff at Costco too.

So nice try, hippy.

Haha, ok

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Pepsei
they do this in taiwan a few years ago already. for small stores, they charge ~3 cents for plastic bags. bigger stores use paper bags.

also, for those of you who's against this.... do you think you're not already paying for the bags anyway? the cost is spread around in all the grocery you buy already.

Duh? Just like we're all paying for credit card fees whether you are actually using a credit card or not. Some people are just ignorant.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: Deeko

Absolutely, what's not to understand? I don't like that the store is doing that, so I'm not giving them my business. It can't be any simpler than that.

Again, it's ALL the stores.

again - this wouldn't affect Costco because they sell food in large quantities/boxes and thus don't have bags of any sort. They would be unaffected by this law. Therefore I would not be going to a store that is affected by this change.

No you wouldn't.

I already go to Costco, kid. I only go to the grocery store for the perishable things like milk, fruit, bread....but it wouldn't be that hard for me to get that stuff at Costco too.

So nice try, hippy.

Deeko, embrace your inner hippy.

 

[Deeko]

hahah oh god thats the hippiest of them all!!

 

[HardcoreRobot]

next year will it be, 50cents per hour to rent a cart? meters in the parking spaces? surcharges for the store's energy bills?

i would like to say i appreciate the fact the stores give the customer the option to save money, but we all know the costs of these things are rolled up in the food costs, and that is not going to change. stop the nickel and dimeing IMO

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Deeko
hahah oh god thats the hippiest of them all!!

So, how many did you order?

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
next year will it be, 50cents per hour to rent a cart? meters in the parking spaces? surcharges for the store's energy bills?

i would like to say i appreciate the fact the stores give the customer the option to save money, but we all know the costs of these things are rolled up in the food costs, and that is not going to change. stop the nickel and dimeing IMO

Well, this one is an environmental issue too.

Aldi's charged for shitty paper bags that you packed yourself about 15 years ago when we shopped there.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Deeko
hahah oh god thats the hippiest of them all!!

So, how many did you order?

Everything they had - I also got on the waitlist.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: Deeko
hahah oh god thats the hippiest of them all!!

Hemp truly is a great fibre. It is the association with pot that is preventing hemp from becoming the dominant natural fibre in North America.

 

[bobdole369]

Those stupid baggers better not try that 1 item per bag crap they pull here. I couldn't believe it - one time I bout 14 items, and had 9 bags. WTF??!! I had it condensed into 2.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: Pepsei
they do this in taiwan a few years ago already. for small stores, they charge ~3 cents for plastic bags. bigger stores use paper bags.

also, for those of you who's against this.... do you think you're not already paying for the bags anyway? the cost is spread around in all the grocery you buy already.

That got rescinded in a hurry. Is it back on?

 

[IGBT]

..typical eco-KOOK BS. hold fast. there's plenty more on the way from the obama.

 

[SandEagle]

the asian population, specifically the indian aunties, will not be happy about this. they reuse those as trashbags. if you're indian, you'll know what i'm talking about

 

[RadiclDreamer]

I personally just reuse them as bags for small wastebaskets. Better than buying them. And BTW, not Asian either, native american and german

 

[Bryophyte]

Originally posted by: loki8481
my local grocery store has a bin right in front of it for recycling bags... after I get home and unload my groceries, I stuff all the plastic bags inside another bag, hang it on my kitchen doorknob, and take it with me the next time I go shopping to recycle.

Wouldn't that be exactly the same routine as using reusable bags? I mean, barring the recycle part. Just pointing out the obvious.

As a side note, the reusable bags are really easier to use than the plastic ones because they are shaped and sized perfectly for groceries, unlike the crappy little plastic sacks that leak groceries all over your trunk.

 

[rh71]

I have a question - what do people use at home in their rooms, in their kitchens, bathrooms, etc. as garbage bags? Surely it can't be the big black bags as they are both expensive and wasteful (they don't fill up) especially if you toss them every day. Doesn't everybody use these cheap free shopping bags?

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: rh71
I have a question - what do people use at home in their rooms, in their kitchens, bathrooms, etc. as garbage bags? Surely it can't be the big black bags as they are both expensive and wasteful (they don't fill up) especially if you toss them every day. Doesn't everybody use these cheap free shopping bags?

They make different sized trash bags. They even have a really small, vanity, size.
But yeh, I use shopping bags as trash bags, and for 5cents a piece they'd still be cheaper than buying real trash bags.

 

[imported_Imp]

Originally posted by: rh71
I have a question - what do people use at home in their rooms, in their kitchens, bathrooms, etc. as garbage bags? Surely it can't be the big black bags as they are both expensive and wasteful (they don't fill up) especially if you toss them every day. Doesn't everybody use these cheap free shopping bags?

Probably. My house sure does. The real question is, if we didn't have these free shopping bags, would we still do that?

The main reason we use those plastic bags in our trashbins is so that we can just grab the handles, tie it and walk away (then dump it in the garbage bin/bag on collection day).

The only place where we definately need a plastic bag liner is the compost/organic waste bin. No way we're washing all that shit out every week or letting it stink in the bin. Now that we separate our garbage into recycle/organics/garbage, having no bags isn't much an issue. Our garbage can is now 90% plastic packaging or packaging in general.

If you live where you don't separate garbage from organics, then yes, you'll need a new source of bags, probably have to start paying. Glad's bags are rip-offs compared to free shopping ones, so maybe someone will figure out a new market?

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: IGBT
..typical eco-KOOK BS. hold fast. there's plenty more on the way from the obama.

You realise we are talking about Toronto, ON Canada right?

 

[SirStev0]

not a bad thing in my opinion

 

[Pepsei]

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: Pepsei
they do this in taiwan a few years ago already. for small stores, they charge ~3 cents for plastic bags. bigger stores use paper bags.

also, for those of you who's against this.... do you think you're not already paying for the bags anyway? the cost is spread around in all the grocery you buy already.

That got rescinded in a hurry. Is it back on?

it was rescinded? as far as i know it is still on, they even stop fast food restaurants and supermarkets issuing plastic knives, forks and cups. well, good thing people usually eat with throw away chopsticks anyway.

i'll check with my parents, they're there for 2 weeks vacation.