You knew it was coming

[spidey07]

I will not shop at those stores then and I will make sure they know exactly why - it's bullshit. And don't scoff at it being a gubment idea, it's already being proposed by a lot of cities/states. This shit is getting out of hand. Then again gubment says we can't have our house at 70 degress and drive SUVs anymore, no those times are over.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: skace

Originally posted by: Genx87
You really think 5 cent bags is going to save the planet? All it will do is introduce a regressive tax on the poorest ring of a nation. All this is govt grabbing more wealth in the name of the envrionment. You will note they didnt ban the bags. Instead created a new revenue stream.

1. It isn't a government tax because the money doesn't go to the government, it goes to the retailer.

2. It's good for the environment because it "encourages" people to use re-useable bags instead of throwaway, always a good thing -- regardless of whether said bag is recycled or recycleable.

3. It's not forced because you can still pay a small fee and get the throw away bags.

I'd like to pretend this is an environment related decision, but that's just sugar coating it, it's a monetary decision on the side of retailers. They want to make money off of a service they've been giving away for free.

na, it's Miller's idea of green agenda. There was already a few supermarkets that charge for plastic bags.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: spidey07
I will not shop at those stores then and I will make sure they know exactly why - it's bullshit. And don't scoff at it being a gubment idea, it's already being proposed by a lot of cities/states. This shit is getting out of hand. Then again gubment says we can't have our house at 70 degress and drive SUVs anymore, no those times are over.

err, it's going to be ALL the stores, not just supermarkets.

 

[lifeobry]

They should just get rid of free plastic bags period. When I see someone ask for a bag when they bought lip balm or something I just shake my head in dismay at our "bag culture"

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Deeko
This would cause me to shop elsewhere if a store implemented it. If a government implemented it, it would cause me to vote for a lot of new politicians, and do my shopping at Costco.

Yes, I'll go to a bagless bulk store before I'll pay 5 cents for bags or use reusable bags.

You'd rather go to a bagless store than use your own bag? That makes no sense.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: mundane
I saw an article referring to an East Asian nation (the first world ones are probably all doing it by now) in which residents had to pay a fee per garbage bag, and only the officially sanctioned bags would be accepted for pickup. Really limited trash output, and encouraged the citizens to extensively recycle.

A number of cities/towns in the US do this already.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: lifeobry
They should just get rid of free plastic bags period. When I see someone ask for a bag when they bought lip balm or something I just shake my head in dismay at our "bag culture"

I know...those bastards wanting a convenient way to carry multiple objects! How dare they!!!

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Deeko
This would cause me to shop elsewhere if a store implemented it. If a government implemented it, it would cause me to vote for a lot of new politicians, and do my shopping at Costco.

Yes, I'll go to a bagless bulk store before I'll pay 5 cents for bags or use reusable bags.

You'd rather go to a bagless store than use your own bag? That makes no sense.

Absolutely. They want to implement this BS, they lose my business. Simple as that. We call it "capitalism."

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: loki8481
are the plastic bags really that bad if you recycle them? seems like they'd be easy enough to just melt down and re-shape.

they mostly end up in landfill.

iirc 1% of them get recycled.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: loki8481
are the plastic bags really that bad if you recycle them? seems like they'd be easy enough to just melt down and re-shape.

they mostly end up in landfill.

iirc 1% of them get recycled.

that's a shame.

my local grocery store has a bin right in front of it for recycling bags... after I get home and unload my groceries, I stuff all the plastic bags inside another bag, hang it on my kitchen doorknob, and take it with me the next time I go shopping to recycle.

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: mrrman
this has been in Canada for the longest time now

:music: ohhhhhhhhhhh ohhhhh oh oh.. for the longest time :music:

 

[D1gger]

Originally posted by: mrrman
this has been in Canada for the longest time now

Not as a mandatory fee.

Many grocery stores voluntarily deduct $0.03 if you bring a reusable bag, but I'm not aware of any other jurisdiction in Canada that has mandated a fee for all retailers.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: mundane
I saw an article referring to an East Asian nation (the first world ones are probably all doing it by now) in which residents had to pay a fee per garbage bag, and only the officially sanctioned bags would be accepted for pickup. Really limited trash output, and encouraged the citizens to extensively recycle.

Toronto is doing something similar, except we get garbage bins of different sizes. You pay x for y size bin.

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: loki8481
are the plastic bags really that bad if you recycle them? seems like they'd be easy enough to just melt down and re-shape.

they mostly end up in landfill.

iirc 1% of them get recycled.

that's a shame.

my local grocery store has a bin right in front of it for recycling bags... after I get home and unload my groceries, I stuff all the plastic bags inside another bag, hang it on my kitchen doorknob, and take it with me the next time I go shopping to recycle.

agreed, this is just a way to incentivize it on the front end to keep more out of the landfills.

It's a pain to get used to but once you see it as normal it's no problem. I keep around 10 cloth bags behind the seat of my truck. For awhile I would forget them when I go into the grocery, but now I grab a few as I go in depending on what I am buying. Not really anything worth complaining about.

 

[funkymatt]

Originally posted by: puffff
I use those plastic bags for my garbage. If I started using reusable bags, I'd have to spend on real garbage bags. From a financial and environmental point of view, it doesnt make sense for me.

this.

we also reused shopping bags to give out canned goods and turkeys at the food drive i worked at a couple weekends ago.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Deeko
This would cause me to shop elsewhere if a store implemented it. If a government implemented it, it would cause me to vote for a lot of new politicians, and do my shopping at Costco.

Yes, I'll go to a bagless bulk store before I'll pay 5 cents for bags or use reusable bags.

You'd rather go to a bagless store than use your own bag? That makes no sense.

Absolutely. They want to implement this BS, they lose my business. Simple as that. We call it "capitalism."

You don't have to buy the bags. Just walk out of the store with your stuff in the cart like you do at Costco. It's an option. You'd rather a store not give you the option? Again, makes no sense.

 

[SagaLore]

I recycle my plastic bags. I think that is more eco-friendly than throwing away decomposable bags.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Deeko
This would cause me to shop elsewhere if a store implemented it. If a government implemented it, it would cause me to vote for a lot of new politicians, and do my shopping at Costco.

Yes, I'll go to a bagless bulk store before I'll pay 5 cents for bags or use reusable bags.

You'd rather go to a bagless store than use your own bag? That makes no sense.

Absolutely. They want to implement this BS, they lose my business. Simple as that. We call it "capitalism."

You don't have to buy the bags. Just walk out of the store with your stuff in the cart like you do at Costco. It's an option. You'd rather a store not give you the option? Again, makes no sense.

Absolutely, what's not to understand? I don't like that the store is doing that, so I'm not giving them my business. It can't be any simpler than that.

 

[Tiamat]

Whole Foods has been taking off 5 cents per saved bag of groceries off the total cost. I just bring my backpack to carry the groceries in anyways since its too heavy to carry stuff back to my apartment.

 

[middlehead]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
The Safeway here sells the reusable bags for $0.99/ea and gives you $0.03 off per bag each time you use them. I like them because they hold more and I don't need to worry about the handles breaking and stuff falling out nearly as much. So if you use them 30 times, they're free. Reusable bags ftw!

The main grocery store I use does the same general thing, $1.50 for the bag and $0.05 off per bag used. I still get a few plastics here and there for use around the house, but not nearly as much as before.

 

[TallBill]

I don't see the problem. I'd rather pay $1 a bag and just buy 10 bags and be done with em.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Deeko
This would cause me to shop elsewhere if a store implemented it. If a government implemented it, it would cause me to vote for a lot of new politicians, and do my shopping at Costco.

Yes, I'll go to a bagless bulk store before I'll pay 5 cents for bags or use reusable bags.

You'd rather go to a bagless store than use your own bag? That makes no sense.

Absolutely. They want to implement this BS, they lose my business. Simple as that. We call it "capitalism."

You don't have to buy the bags. Just walk out of the store with your stuff in the cart like you do at Costco. It's an option. You'd rather a store not give you the option? Again, makes no sense.

Absolutely, what's not to understand? I don't like that the store is doing that, so I'm not giving them my business. It can't be any simpler than that.

Again, it's ALL the stores.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: Deeko

Absolutely, what's not to understand? I don't like that the store is doing that, so I'm not giving them my business. It can't be any simpler than that.

Again, it's ALL the stores.

again - this wouldn't affect Costco because they sell food in large quantities/boxes and thus don't have bags of any sort. They would be unaffected by this law. Therefore I would not be going to a store that is affected by this change.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: Deeko

Absolutely, what's not to understand? I don't like that the store is doing that, so I'm not giving them my business. It can't be any simpler than that.

Again, it's ALL the stores.

again - this wouldn't affect Costco because they sell food in large quantities/boxes and thus don't have bags of any sort. They would be unaffected by this law. Therefore I would not be going to a store that is affected by this change.

No you wouldn't.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Deeko
This would cause me to shop elsewhere if a store implemented it. If a government implemented it, it would cause me to vote for a lot of new politicians, and do my shopping at Costco.

Yes, I'll go to a bagless bulk store before I'll pay 5 cents for bags or use reusable bags.

You'd rather go to a bagless store than use your own bag? That makes no sense.

Absolutely. They want to implement this BS, they lose my business. Simple as that. We call it "capitalism."

You don't have to buy the bags. Just walk out of the store with your stuff in the cart like you do at Costco. It's an option. You'd rather a store not give you the option? Again, makes no sense.

Absolutely, what's not to understand? I don't like that the store is doing that, so I'm not giving them my business. It can't be any simpler than that.

You don't like that a store gives you an option but rather take it away from you by not offering bags at all?