You have $10,000 for a computer.. Buy now, or wait 6 months for Conroe and AMD's 4x4 / new gen video cards?

Fullmetal Chocobo

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$10k is pointless for a home system. I'd build a gaming machine with $2k, a storage server with $3k, and do something with the left over $5k.
 

Greenman

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1.5k for a good system, 8.5k in the bank. Unless I was so rich that 10k ment nothing. Then it would be 2k for a good system and 8k given to someone that really needs it.
 

Maximilian

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Originally posted by: Greenman
1.5k for a good system, 8.5k in the bank. Unless I was so rich that 10k ment nothing. Then it would be 2k for a good system and 8k given to someone that really needs it.

Damn thats generous. I would blow the whole 10k on a conroe EE rig, and then laugh it up at somone who couldnt afford it :)
 

ddviper

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Please dont waste 10k on 1 comp, spend 2k and give me the rest if you really dont need it
 

Hyperlite

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Originally posted by: Megatomic
I'd buy a $2K computer and a new motorcycle, but that's just me. :p

That sounds like a plan to me! or 3k or so for the rig and then 7k for the 1080p projector for a display.
 

ProviaFan

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I bought a high-end system last year, so I'd put that in the bank for a car which I'll probably need next summer for my internship. If I didn't have a high-end system, I'd spend $2K to $3K on such a system after the new workstation offerings (Woodcrest and Opteron in socket F) are available, and save the rest for the aforementioned car.
 

Looney

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I'd wait for Conroe, but spend whatever it cost to bang two hot girls at once... then whatever left over for the computer and monitor (Dell 30")
 

krotchy

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Well, I had to build a 10k computer last month to stream in/out HD-SDI video, but honestly its pointless for gaming (especially since it has a quadro FX 3400 card in it, not a gaming card).

2xOpteron 280's = 1800
Tyan K8WE = 530
2 GB ECC Registered RAM PC 3200 = 400
Intel SRCS28X Raid controller = 530
11x Seagate 7200.9 160 GB HDD = 900 (8 for RAID 0 + 3 identical backup drives in case of failure)
1x WD 150 GB Raptor Boot Drive = 300
Dell 30 Inch Screen + Logitech Media Keyboard + Logitech G5 Mouse = 1800
2x Plextor DVD Burners = 150
PCP&C 1000W Power Supply = 460
1 Quaddro 3400 = 900
Lian-Li PC-201B Case = 280
AJA Xena HS = 900

Total: 8980. With overnight shipping it ended up being still less than 10k.

We eventually added an Aja HDP HD-SDI->DVI Converter and a 23 inch 1080p monitor for another 1900 dollars to preview our HD-SDI video on the Xena HS's output making it about 12k total. Also we added a $6000 h.264 hardware encoder to it, but that is more of a seperate expense.

Even while capturing 1080i 59.94 uncompressed video, compressing SDI video using the h.264 card and browswing the internet, I have yet to break 40% usage accross the 4 cores. Unless you have a reason to work with uncompressed video, massive multithreaded applications , or anything along those lines, do you really need to spend 10k on a computer, the short answer, NO.

With 5k you could build a beyond godly gaming rig around an FX-62 and 30 inch LCD, and then if you must build a conroe based one in 6 months with the other 5k. Even this I find silly, as I built my Opteron 170 Gaming computer for about 1750 shipped, and it dominates pretty much anything I throw at it (Including handling obvlion at 1280x1024 at over 60 FPS maxxed out)

 

PhoenixOrion

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Wait it out for this but you only really need around $3500:

1. conroe - $500
2. motherboard - $250
3. 2GB ram cas 4 - $400
4. 16mb cache raptor - $150
5. 24" widescreen LCD - $700
6. dual psu ATX case - $150
7. 700 watt ocz to overclock the heck out of that conroe - $150
8. 600 watt seasonic for crossfire - $150
9. crossfire setup - $1000
 

undeclared

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conroe XE 3.3ghz @ 5ghz - $1,000+
lian-li case - $300 (dual psu support)
phase cooling gear - $800
motherboard - $250
4gb performance ram - $800
1x 24" widescreen LCD - $700
2x Radeon X2900 DUAL card or Nvidia 8900 dual card SLI/Crossfire - $2,000
dual 150gb raptor setup (raid 10 setup) - $1,000
dual 1TB drive storage drives (or 750gb if not available) - no raid - $1,000
special fans and mods for drives to remain cool - ~$200
Sound-Blaster X-FI Elite Pro - $400
700 watt ocz to overclock the heck out of that conroe - $150
600 watt seasonic for crossfire/sli - $150

note: the radeon/nvidia stuff is just hypothetical, but I mean next gen best of the best gear.
 

bob4432

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Originally posted by: krotchy
Well, I had to build a 10k computer last month to stream in/out HD-SDI video, but honestly its pointless for gaming (especially since it has a quadro FX 3400 card in it, not a gaming card).

2xOpteron 280's = 1800
Tyan K8WE = 530
2 GB ECC Registered RAM PC 3200 = 400
Intel SRCS28X Raid controller = 530
11x Seagate 7200.9 160 GB HDD = 900 (8 for RAID 0 + 3 identical backup drives in case of failure)
1x WD 150 GB Raptor Boot Drive = 300
Dell 30 Inch Screen + Logitech Media Keyboard + Logitech G5 Mouse = 1800
2x Plextor DVD Burners = 150
PCP&C 1000W Power Supply = 460
1 Quaddro 3400 = 900
Lian-Li PC-201B Case = 280
AJA Xena HS = 900

Total: 8980. With overnight shipping it ended up being still less than 10k.

We eventually added an Aja HDP HD-SDI->DVI Converter and a 23 inch 1080p monitor for another 1900 dollars to preview our HD-SDI video on the Xena HS's output making it about 12k total. Also we added a $6000 h.264 hardware encoder to it, but that is more of a seperate expense.

Even while capturing 1080i 59.94 uncompressed video, compressing SDI video using the h.264 card and browswing the internet, I have yet to break 40% usage accross the 4 cores. Unless you have a reason to work with uncompressed video, massive multithreaded applications , or anything along those lines, do you really need to spend 10k on a computer, the short answer, NO.

With 5k you could build a beyond godly gaming rig around an FX-62 and 30 inch LCD, and then if you must build a conroe based one in 6 months with the other 5k. Even this I find silly, as I built my Opteron 170 Gaming computer for about 1750 shipped, and it dominates pretty much anything I throw at it (Including handling obvlion at 1280x1024 at over 60 FPS maxxed out)

just a couple of questions -

what is HD-SDI?

for your hdds are you running 4 raid 0 arrays that are backed up to the 160GB hdds? is that much bandwidth needed for 1080i?

what is the source camera?
 

undeclared

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haha, its just for fun

I'm not actually ever in my whole life probably ever going to be buying a $10k rig ;)

I will likely settle for an above average cpu/mobo where the CPU can give me a big OC (pentium d 930 perhaps..) and a really good pci-express single-card solution (X1900 XTX comes to mind.. or the next gen)

I'd be very happy to play most games in 1024, but much happier if I could get a video card and a monitor to support gaming in 1600x1200...
 

cpacini

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Originally posted by: Looney
I'd wait for Conroe, but spend whatever it cost to bang two hot girls at once... then whatever left over for the computer and monitor (Dell 30")

That would cost a million dollars
 

bob4432

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Originally posted by: xtwells
haha, its just for fun

I'm not actually ever in my whole life probably ever going to be buying a $10k rig ;)

I will likely settle for an above average cpu/mobo where the CPU can give me a big OC (pentium d 930 perhaps..) and a really good pci-express single-card solution (X1900 XTX comes to mind.. or the next gen)

I'd be very happy to play most games in 1024, but much happier if I could get a video card and a monitor to support gaming in 1600x1200...

haha... you are a d!ck. why the f*ck would you waste the time and knowledge of the people on this board if it is a f*cking joke? a$$