"You got knocked the (&%@ out!" McDonalds mugging

[Mardeth]

I wish he had tryed the same on Bas Rutten or Tank Abbott. No thatd be entertaining.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Mardeth
I wish he had tryed the same on Bas Rutten or Tank Abbott. No thatd be entertaining.

And I'm sure that they could tell you if you take a shot to the sweet spot on your chin (which is what happened with this guy), it doesn't matter how big or tough you are, you're taking a nap.

 

[HomeAppraiser]

Originally posted by: eleison

Originally posted by: GRIFFIN1
This is just an example of how you need to be aware of your suroundings. There is no way I would have had my back turned to that guy in the video.
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Yea, but if you kept him in view and he saw you doing it, he could acuse you of racism... No win situation...

That's why my wife uses the drive-thru.


BTW your Black Guy Avatar is making her nervous. She just locked the doors and windows; stepping cautiously away from the computer clutching her purse; oh fvck she just maced the monitor.


Did the store at least give the guy a Happy Meal?

 

[SophalotJack]

Fast food really is dangerous for you!

 

[VanTheMan]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: VanTheMan

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: VanTheMan

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: skyking
If there had been other people in the line, that guy would not have done it. It was opportunity all the way. A good samaritan might have kicked the crap out of that guy while he was going through the victim's pockets.

There ya go, no need for a gun, just a good Samaritan to kick the guy in the junk when he bends over to go through the victim's pockets.

The same crap could happen to a Samaritan in that case. The robber could see/hear him coming, get pissed off and beat the hell out of both victims.

If someone across the store draws a gun and tells the robber to get on the floor, odds are he's not going to beat the person anymore or even move. The worst he'll do is run away... unless he's on PCP or something, in which case everybody's screwed anyway. If the robber runs away, fine. There's no need to fire the gun, as the threat is neutralized. With a gun, you put yourself out of reach of the unarmed robber. Out of reach equals out of harm's way. Even if the robber does have a gun, you've got the advantage as you've already drawn and aimed. It's far more reckless to charge the robber and try to kick him in the balls while he's looting the guy than to draw a gun knowing that you won't fire unless you absolutely have to.

Drawing could possibly wind up with you thrown in jail with a list of charges.

The assailant is not armed, is not using deadly force against another, and is then fleeing. Drawing in a situation like this would only escalate the situation.

If you have a CCW permit and you draw in this situation, the worst you're going to need to do it justify to a judge that you were concerned for your safety or the safety of someone else. Chances are, you'll have at least a couple people from McD's to back you up. You might go to jail if you shot the robber, but you wouldn't go to jail unless you fired. Would you go to jail if you drew on some unarmed thug who tried to intimidate you or someone else by demanding your purse/wallet? Really, what's the use in having a CCW permit if you can't draw without going to jail unless you're already being threatened with deadly force? I can understand not firing unless you're threatened with deadly force, but the whole point is to give you an advantage over unarmed/lesser armed criminals and cause them to back down. Who says the guy isn't going to start beating down other McD's patrons after he loots the old guy? If you wait to draw until he's running at you swinging, it's too late.

That's the thing. That's not what happened in this situation. We see the guy knock him out, take his money, and take off. It happened quickly and unexpectedly. IMO, if you witness just what I described, there would be absolutely no reason to draw. By the time you do, he's already making his way out of the building. If you draw and tell the criminal to stop and he takes off, nothing happens. If you fire a round at him and wound him, he'll have your ass in a civil suit after the criminal suit.

Also, If you're in close proximity with a handgun, you're put at a very bad disadvantage, especially if the assailant pulls a knife or some other non-firearm weapon. How many people, even with a CCW, are trained in the proper way to approach a criminal with their weapon drawn? In a situation like this, you'd be what, 6-10ft away from the criminal?

In a situation that happened as quickly as this, drawing a firearm would've probably resulted in very little positives.

That's why every situation is unique with a CCW.

True. In this exact situation I probably wouldn't have drawn, but I would definitely have had my hand prepared to draw if the guy turned towards me or someone else instead of the door. A lot of people don't understand that each situation is unique. You have to be prepared to think and react in an instant.