You don't speak for me, Cindy!

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You don't speak for me, Cindy!


SACRAMENTO, Calif. - Supporters of President Bush clashed with anti-war activists as they wound their way through California after rallying in the hometown of Cindy Sheehan, the mother who started a protest camp outside Bush's Texas ranch.

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Conservative activists and military families embarked on the tour Monday, calling it "You don't speak for me, Cindy!" A verbal confrontation erupted when the caravan arrived in Sacramento and was met by anti-war protesters chanting for Bush to bring home the troops.

Sheehan supporter Dan Elliott, 71, confronted caravan members by waving a sign reading "Death is not support" and heckling one of the tour's organizers as she addressed the crowd.

"You are ruining the morale over there," responded Greg Parkinson, a Bush supporter.

Sheehan began her protest vigil Aug. 6 on the road leading to Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas, an act that has encouraged anti-war activists to join her and prompted peace vigils nationwide. Sheehan's 24-year-old son, Army Spc. Casey Sheehan, was killed last year in Iraq.

The pro-Bush caravan planned rallies in several California cities before heading to Crawford, where Sheehan opponents have formed their own camp.

"It's time to lay down the anger. We need to continue to uphold those people over there, to uphold those men and women with their boots on the ground," said Deborah Johns of the Northern California Marine Moms, who helped organize the caravan and addressed supporters outside the Vacaville Reporter newspaper in Sheehan's hometown.

Some caravan members called the anti-war protesters communists and said they were "aiding and abetting the enemy." Those comments enraged Sheehan supporter Dee Ann Heath, who said she has two sons serving in Iraq and another preparing to leave.

"I don't support the war, but I support my sons," she said. "I simply want them to come home."

In Vacaville, Toni Colip, 50, said her son, David, went to high school with Casey Sheehan and is now in the Army, although not in Iraq. Colip said her son opposes Cindy Sheehan's activities and has asked her to support his military service even if he is injured or killed.

"He said, 'Don't dishonor me; don't walk on my grave,'" Colip said.

Sheehan vowed to remain in Texas until Bush agreed to meet with her or until his monthlong vacation ended Sept. 3, but she flew to Los Angeles last week after her 74-year-old mother had a stroke. She is expected to return to Texas in a few days.

On Monday, Bush was in Salt Lake City, where he spoke to a national veterans group to rally support for the war. Bush has said he sympathizes with Sheehan, but a White House spokeswoman said he did not plan to change his schedule and meet with her. She and other families met with Bush about two months after Casey died, before she became a vocal opponent of the war.




I think her :15 minute claim-to-fame is just about over; we all know her agenda (and for those of you who don't, just read what her husband and other relatives said about her and her warped agenda of exploiting her son's death for political purposes), and it's time to reflect on the service and sacrifice of her brave son without her using him to further her radical agenda with the Moores and Moveons of the DNC. Or, as the service member who knew Casey said, "'Don't dishonor me; don't walk on my grave." Go home, Cindy; Cindy go home. You are clearly no Rosa Parks, so get off your high bus and go home, Cindy. Stop discrediting the good name of Rosa and your son. Stop walking on their graves and ruining his good name.
 

sandorski

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Don't speak against the War, it erodes Soldiers Morale!

Don't speak against Police Corruption, it erodes Police Morale!

Don't speak against Political Corruption, it erodes Politicians Morale!

Do nothing, let things carry on as if you have no Voice!
 

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Amazing how low people will go to support this bullsh*t lie of a war. I feel sorry for all families that say they honor the troops with false patriotism and hatred.

Stay right where you are, Cindy!

The OP is clearly no human being, so he can get off his high horse and quit ruining the gene pool.

NO EXCUSES! IF YOU LOVE TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE, GET YOUR GOD DAMN ASS TO IRAQ NOW!
 

BushBasha

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Amazing how low people will go to support this bullsh*t lie of a war. I feel sorry for all families that say they honor the troops with false patriotism and hatred.

Stay right where you are, Cindy!

The OP is clearly no human being, so he can get off his high horse and quit ruining the gene pool.

NO EXCUSES! IF YOU LOVE TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE, GET YOUR GOD DAMN ASS TO IRAQ NOW!

Tell Cindy that "innocent people" killed her son.

Once again, though, we see more P&N liberish attacks by resident liberalcons. Instead of forumlate an argument, you launch ad hominem attacks against those who hold contray views...you make me laugh.
:cookie:


 

BushBasha

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Amazing how low people will go to support this bullsh*t lie of a war. I feel sorry for all families that say they honor the troops with false patriotism and hatred.


Why do you hate many Moveon.org Democrats? They have a right to assert that they "support the troops" with false patriotism and hatred, do they not? That's what our soldiers defend when they go overseas and fight wars....to protect your right to stand downtown San Francisco and chant catchy little anti-war slogans; under Saddam, you would have an "X" carved into your forehead, raped, then shot for such displays. "Anyone but Saddam!" That, too, would be punishable by death.

Why do you want to deny people from having the same rights and liberties that you enjoy (because of the untiring sacrifices of military members like Casey) simply because of hatred toward Republicans who are now doing what previous administrations said had to be done? Where was Ms. Sheehan when the USS Cole was bomb, WTC I was attacked, the soldiers in Saudi Arabia? Where was she when the embassies were destroyed? Where were any Democrats when our nation came under attack a half a dozen times? Where was Casey when we deployed troops to Bosnia and conducted bombings? Where were the f*cking protests when I was sitting in a GP-small eating t-rats and MREs without a shower for 2 months. Instead, she chooses when to oppose a war and uses her dead son to advance her political agenda.



 

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Cindy's mother having a stroke doesn't appear to have been on Cindy's agenda.

Now, after the undeserved success of the Swiftboat crew, any new threat can be immediately attacked with a media campaign. The reaction to Cindy Sheehan was a little slow off the starting blocks, don't you think?

Isn't Judith Miller a journalist for the New York Times? Didn't she write article after article about the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? Yes, I believe she did. Now, she has to cool her heels to protect her sources in a different matter, related but different. I doubt you ever gave that much thought.

 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: BushBasha
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Amazing how low people will go to support this bullsh*t lie of a war. I feel sorry for all families that say they honor the troops with false patriotism and hatred.

Stay right where you are, Cindy!

The OP is clearly no human being, so he can get off his high horse and quit ruining the gene pool.

NO EXCUSES! IF YOU LOVE TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE, GET YOUR GOD DAMN ASS TO IRAQ NOW!

Tell Cindy that "innocent people" killed her son.

Once again, though, we see more P&N liberish attacks by resident liberalcons. Instead of forumlate an argument, you launch ad hominem attacks against those who hold contray views...you make me laugh.
:cookie:

So a 100,000+ innocent civilians are a "Bill Burkett"? Please, just sign up or shut up. She's peacefully protesting and quite frankly, your pseudo-patriotic little caravan is going down there to cause trouble. Quite frankly, they love the killing going on for no reason in Iraq. Either that or they just like the fantasy that their sons or daughters fought for a "noble cause", which they couldn't say for a fact what it is or was.

Face it, you and the rest of your bunch are in serious, SERIOUS denial and qute frankly I f'in sick of it. You present evidence after evidence after evidence that this whole thing was a lie, but you don't even read it, understand it or care. You just like being willfully ignorant.

Being willfully ignorant when it comes to Social Security, taxes and even gay marriage is one thing, but being willfully ignorant when it comes to war is where I draw the line. You and the rest of your ilk have NO MORALS, NO DECENCY and quite frankly, I'm ashamed you're an American.

I'm going to have to look at my kids one day and explain to them what this war was all about. I'm going to have to tell them that people like you are a bunch of racist, sadistic, pigs and loved to kill more than cared about this country or its freedoms (all of them). You make me sick.

So, *****JohnGalt*****, you're back again with your spew of filth?
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: BushBasha
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Amazing how low people will go to support this bullsh*t lie of a war. I feel sorry for all families that say they honor the troops with false patriotism and hatred.


Why do you hate many Moveon.org Democrats? They have a right to assert that they "support the troops" with false patriotism and hatred, do they not? That's what our soldiers defend when they go overseas and fight wars....to protect your right to stand downtown San Francisco and chant catchy little anti-war slogans; under Saddam, you would have an "X" carved into your forehead, raped, then shot for such displays. "Anyone but Saddam!" That, too, would be punishable by death.

Why do you want to deny people from having the same rights and liberties that you enjoy (because of the untiring sacrifices of military members like Casey) simply because of hatred toward Republicans who are now doing what previous administrations said had to be done? Where was Ms. Sheehan when the USS Cole was bomb, WTC I was attacked, the soldiers in Saudi Arabia? Where was she when the embassies were destroyed? Where were any Democrats when our nation came under attack a half a dozen times? Where was Casey when we deployed troops to Bosnia and conducted bombings? Where were the f*cking protests when I was sitting in a GP-small eating t-rats and MREs without a shower for 2 months. Instead, she chooses when to oppose a war and uses her dead son to advance her political agenda.

Her political agenda? Get the f out of here. I'm sick of hearing the GOP talking points. What the hell does the Cole, WTC I, 9/11 and the rest have to do with Iraq? GD you people. GD you.
 

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They are just entitled to their views as she is to hers. Telling her to STFU is no different than her shouting back, no YOU STFU.

She can protest as long as she wants. What are you and those like you going to do about it? Other than whine just like you claim she is. What does Rosa Parks have to do with this situation again? Ah yes, nothing, but nice try. Typical P&N neoconjob from the one of the resident neoc*nts. :cookie:
 

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I'm going to have to look at my kids one day and explain to them what this war was all about. I'm going to have to tell them that people like you are a bunch of racist, sadistic, pigs and loved to kill more than cared about this country or its freedoms (all of them). You make me sick.

Just what we need, sheep raising more sheep.

Her political agenda? Get the f out of here. I'm sick of hearing the GOP talking points. What the hell does the Cole, WTC I, 9/11 and the rest have to do with Iraq? GD you people. GD you.

Careful, your poor bleeding heart is about to burst :(
 

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: BushBasha
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Amazing how low people will go to support this bullsh*t lie of a war. I feel sorry for all families that say they honor the troops with false patriotism and hatred.

Stay right where you are, Cindy!

The OP is clearly no human being, so he can get off his high horse and quit ruining the gene pool.

NO EXCUSES! IF YOU LOVE TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE, GET YOUR GOD DAMN ASS TO IRAQ NOW!

Tell Cindy that "innocent people" killed her son.

Once again, though, we see more P&N liberish attacks by resident liberalcons. Instead of forumlate an argument, you launch ad hominem attacks against those who hold contray views...you make me laugh.
:cookie:

So a 100,000+ innocent civilians are a "Bill Burkett"? Please, just sign up or shut up. She's peacefully protesting and quite frankly, your pseudo-patriotic little caravan is going down there to cause trouble. Quite frankly, they love the killing going on for no reason in Iraq. Either that or they just like the fantasy that their sons or daughters fought for a "noble cause", which they couldn't say for a fact what it is or was.

Face it, you and the rest of your bunch are in serious, SERIOUS denial and qute frankly I f'in sick of it. You present evidence after evidence after evidence that this whole thing was a lie, but you don't even read it, understand it or care. You just like being willfully ignorant.

Being willfully ignorant when it comes to Social Security, taxes and even gay marriage is one thing, but being willfully ignorant when it comes to war is where I draw the line. You and the rest of your ilk have NO MORALS, NO DECENCY and quite frankly, I'm ashamed you're an American.

I'm going to have to look at my kids one day and explain to them what this war was all about. I'm going to have to tell them that people like you are a bunch of racist, sadistic, pigs and loved to kill more than cared about this country or its freedoms (all of them). You make me sick.

So, *****JohnGalt*****, you're back again with your spew of filth?


Grow up.

What, only one side gets to voice their opinion in this country?


 

Engineer

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She has the right to bitch

They have the right to bitch about her bitching.

Both are guaranteed by the Constitution and you have NO RIGHT trying to take her rights away. Simple as pie.

Oh, and they don't speak for her and those families that support her claim either....and neither side has the right to tell anyone to STFU as the have the full right to say it as they feel.

:)
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: BushBasha
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Amazing how low people will go to support this bullsh*t lie of a war. I feel sorry for all families that say they honor the troops with false patriotism and hatred.

Stay right where you are, Cindy!

The OP is clearly no human being, so he can get off his high horse and quit ruining the gene pool.

NO EXCUSES! IF YOU LOVE TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE, GET YOUR GOD DAMN ASS TO IRAQ NOW!

Tell Cindy that "innocent people" killed her son.

Once again, though, we see more P&N liberish attacks by resident liberalcons. Instead of forumlate an argument, you launch ad hominem attacks against those who hold contray views...you make me laugh.
:cookie:

wtf is a liberalcon?
 

imported_Pedro69

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Originally posted by: BushBasha
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Amazing how low people will go to support this bullsh*t lie of a war. I feel sorry for all families that say they honor the troops with false patriotism and hatred.


Why do you hate many Moveon.org Democrats? They have a right to assert that they "support the troops" with false patriotism and hatred, do they not? That's what our soldiers defend when they go overseas and fight wars....to protect your right to stand downtown San Francisco and chant catchy little anti-war slogans; under Saddam, you would have an "X" carved into your forehead, raped, then shot for such displays. "Anyone but Saddam!" That, too, would be punishable by death.

Why do you want to deny people from having the same rights and liberties that you enjoy (because of the untiring sacrifices of military members like Casey) simply because of hatred toward Republicans who are now doing what previous administrations said had to be done? Where was Ms. Sheehan when the USS Cole was bomb, WTC I was attacked, the soldiers in Saudi Arabia? Where was she when the embassies were destroyed? Where were any Democrats when our nation came under attack a half a dozen times? Where was Casey when we deployed troops to Bosnia and conducted bombings? Where were the f*cking protests when I was sitting in a GP-small eating t-rats and MREs without a shower for 2 months. Instead, she chooses when to oppose a war and uses her dead son to advance her political agenda.

Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and it is not the US Taxpayers/Soldiers duty to "free" other Countries. The money and lives LOST in Iraq would have done a lot fighting the real enemy (in case you forgot: The Terrorists).
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: BushBasha
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Amazing how low people will go to support this bullsh*t lie of a war. I feel sorry for all families that say they honor the troops with false patriotism and hatred.

Stay right where you are, Cindy!

The OP is clearly no human being, so he can get off his high horse and quit ruining the gene pool.

NO EXCUSES! IF YOU LOVE TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE, GET YOUR GOD DAMN ASS TO IRAQ NOW!

Tell Cindy that "innocent people" killed her son.

Once again, though, we see more P&N liberish attacks by resident liberalcons. Instead of forumlate an argument, you launch ad hominem attacks against those who hold contray views...you make me laugh.
:cookie:

So a 100,000+ innocent civilians are a "Bill Burkett"? Please, just sign up or shut up. She's peacefully protesting and quite frankly, your pseudo-patriotic little caravan is going down there to cause trouble. Quite frankly, they love the killing going on for no reason in Iraq. Either that or they just like the fantasy that their sons or daughters fought for a "noble cause", which they couldn't say for a fact what it is or was.

Face it, you and the rest of your bunch are in serious, SERIOUS denial and qute frankly I f'in sick of it. You present evidence after evidence after evidence that this whole thing was a lie, but you don't even read it, understand it or care. You just like being willfully ignorant.

Being willfully ignorant when it comes to Social Security, taxes and even gay marriage is one thing, but being willfully ignorant when it comes to war is where I draw the line. You and the rest of your ilk have NO MORALS, NO DECENCY and quite frankly, I'm ashamed you're an American.

I'm going to have to look at my kids one day and explain to them what this war was all about. I'm going to have to tell them that people like you are a bunch of racist, sadistic, pigs and loved to kill more than cared about this country or its freedoms (all of them). You make me sick.

So, *****JohnGalt*****, you're back again with your spew of filth?


Grow up.

What, only one side gets to voice their opinion in this country?

Hey, you people have a right to spew all the lies and filth about Sheehan that you wanted to. Now, I'm not supposed to not respond to it? Even their protest lies and twists the meaning of Sheehan's protest and I'm supposed to respect it? Puh-f'in-lease.

You grow up. I've read all of your regurgitation of the lies for too long. You're all LIARS.

Filthy LIARS.
 

BushBasha

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Originally posted by: TRUMPHENT

The reaction to Cindy Sheehan was a little slow off the starting blocks, don't you think?

Not at all. Before, we gave her the benefit of the doubt and sympathized with her and her lose. Once she met with Democratic strategists and PR people, once MoveOn.org hailed her as the Rosa Parks of protestors, once we saw her cynical agenda, then the story picked up steam. It was weeks before I learned that she has already met with the president (and was impressed the first time, until she was told that she wasn't impressed). Prior to learning this, I thought he should met with her and mothers like her....the more I learned, the more I didn't like...and divisive news is good news nowadays...and been weeks since a white girl has been reported missing.
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: BushBasha
Originally posted by: TRUMPHENT

The reaction to Cindy Sheehan was a little slow off the starting blocks, don't you think?

Not at all. Before, we gave her the benefit of the doubt and sympathized with her and her lose. Once she met with Democratic strategists and PR people, once MoveOn.org hailed her as the Rosa Parks of protestors, once we saw her cynical agenda, then the story picked up steam. It was weeks before I learned that she has already met with the president (and was impressed the first time, until she was told that she wasn't impressed). Prior to learning this, I thought he should met with her and mothers like her....the more I learned, the more I didn't like...and divisive news is good news nowadays...and been weeks since a white girl has been reported missing.

You mean the more lies you read and wanted to believe, the more you didn't like.
 

BushBasha

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: BushBasha
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Amazing how low people will go to support this bullsh*t lie of a war. I feel sorry for all families that say they honor the troops with false patriotism and hatred.

Stay right where you are, Cindy!

The OP is clearly no human being, so he can get off his high horse and quit ruining the gene pool.

NO EXCUSES! IF YOU LOVE TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE, GET YOUR GOD DAMN ASS TO IRAQ NOW!

Tell Cindy that "innocent people" killed her son.

Once again, though, we see more P&N liberish attacks by resident liberalcons. Instead of forumlate an argument, you launch ad hominem attacks against those who hold contray views...you make me laugh.
:cookie:

So a 100,000+ innocent civilians are a "Bill Burkett"? Please, just sign up or shut up. She's peacefully protesting and quite frankly, your pseudo-patriotic little caravan is going down there to cause trouble. Quite frankly, they love the killing going on for no reason in Iraq. Either that or they just like the fantasy that their sons or daughters fought for a "noble cause", which they couldn't say for a fact what it is or was.

Face it, you and the rest of your bunch are in serious, SERIOUS denial and qute frankly I f'in sick of it. You present evidence after evidence after evidence that this whole thing was a lie, but you don't even read it, understand it or care. You just like being willfully ignorant.

Being willfully ignorant when it comes to Social Security, taxes and even gay marriage is one thing, but being willfully ignorant when it comes to war is where I draw the line. You and the rest of your ilk have NO MORALS, NO DECENCY and quite frankly, I'm ashamed you're an American.

I'm going to have to look at my kids one day and explain to them what this war was all about. I'm going to have to tell them that people like you are a bunch of racist, sadistic, pigs and loved to kill more than cared about this country or its freedoms (all of them). You make me sick.

So, *****JohnGalt*****, you're back again with your spew of filth?


More attacks. Sigh :roll:
 

BushBasha

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Originally posted by: Deudalus
I'm going to have to look at my kids one day and explain to them what this war was all about. I'm going to have to tell them that people like you are a bunch of racist, sadistic, pigs and loved to kill more than cared about this country or its freedoms (all of them). You make me sick.

Just what we need, sheep raising more sheep.
:) Bush and his wars are Baaaaahhhhhhddddddd.
 

BushBasha

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot

wtf is a liberalcon?[/quote]

Someone who has all the answers but offers nothing...no policies...no ideas...nothing but "NO." Just say no Democrats who are card-carrying MoveOn.org wackjobs.....paraphrasing, of course.
 

umbrella39

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Not that I don't believe you BB, but when did she met with Democratic strategists? Can't find any proof of this. You must have read it somewhere, can you link it here please? Also, when did Moveon hail her as the Rosa Parks or protestors? Seems like a stretch to compare the 2 in the same breath.
 

Darkhawk28

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Like these neocons hold Rosa Parks in some high regard. Can you imagine if Rosa Parks did her protest today? They'd practically lynch her.
 

BushBasha

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Originally posted by: Pedro69


Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and it is not the US Taxpayers/Soldiers duty to "free" other Countries. The money and lives LOST in Iraq would have done a lot fighting the real enemy (in case you forgot: The Terrorists).

Finally someone not attacking and making an argument; bravo, Pedro.

So what you are saying is that the people we are killing in Iraq, the people who target our military and civilian Iraqis, the people who strap bombs to themselves or their vehicles and destroy innocent lives are not, in fact, terrorists? What are they? Freedom Fighters who, like the liberalcons, simply hate Bush? What would call the people who flood into Iraq taking innocent lives, Muslim lives or not...they do not care. They are not terrorists?
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: BushBasha
Originally posted by: Pedro69


Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and it is not the US Taxpayers/Soldiers duty to "free" other Countries. The money and lives LOST in Iraq would have done a lot fighting the real enemy (in case you forgot: The Terrorists).

Finally someone not attacking and making an argument; bravo, Pedro.

So what you are saying is that the people we are killing in Iraq, the people who target our military and civilian Iraqis, the people who strap bombs to themselves or their vehicles and destroy innocent lives are not, in fact, terrorists? What are they? Freedom Fighters who, like the liberalcons, simply hate Bush? What would call the people who flood into Iraq taking innocent lives, Muslim lives or not...they do not care. They are not terrorists?

Then let's get out now! Why are we there again?