"You can't force your opinion on me"...strange argument, isn't it.

[jlee]

According to arguments common-place here at ATOT, individuals do not have the 'right' to 'force' their opinions on others. This thought is very strong to some people, but I would like to pose a question.

What is an opinion?

\O*pin"ion\, n. [F., from L. opinio. See Opine.] 1. That which is opined; a notion or conviction founded on probable evidence; belief stronger than impression, less strong than positive knowledge; settled judgment in regard to any point of knowledge or action.

Many would probably say my stance against gun control is my 'opinion'...some people say expressing religious beliefs is "forcing" it upon them. From what I understand, forcing one's "opinion" on others takes various forms..expressing pro-gun sentiment, pro-life..etc...that's considered "forcing your opinion on me".

Believing that one has the right to avoid being "forced" to listen to the opinions of others is, by definition, an opinion..correct?

So...if the "forcing opinion" argument is actually someone's opinion, are they not violating their opinion by forcing it on others?

Just a thought..
-Cadet

 

[Kev]

Oh my god I've gone cross-eyed.

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: maladroit
Oh my god I've gone cross-eyed.

Mine has been corrected!

 

[Ryan]

New
You're so new
you
you're new
And I've never had this taste in my past
you
you're so new

My opinion has been forced upon you - have anice day

 

[Fausto]

It's been my experience that when someone starts crowing about having opinions "forced" on them it's because they have an essentially indefensable position on something and don't know what else to say. Kinda like "I'm just right, so shut up with your damn logic and reason already!!"

 

[smp]

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: maladroit Oh my god I've gone cross-eyed.

Mine has been corrected!

hahahaha ..



no seriously though .. forcing your opinion on people is what HItler was doing .. it's what Stalin was doing.
Some peope would argue that the 'free' world is forcing it's economic 'opinions' on the rest of the world.

 

[smp]

Originally posted by: Fausto1
It's been my experience that when someone starts crowing about having opinions "forced" on them it's because they have an essentially indefensable position on something and don't know what else to say. Kinda like "I'm just right, so shut up with your damn logic and reason already!!"

Yes .. that too

 

[Spamela]

Originally posted by: CadetLee
According to arguments common-place here at ATOT, individuals do not have the 'right' to 'force' their opinions on others. This thought is very strong to some people, but I would like to pose a question.

What is an opinion?

\O*pin"ion\, n. [F., from L. opinio. See Opine.] 1. That which is opined; a notion or conviction founded on probable evidence; belief stronger than impression, less strong than positive knowledge; settled judgment in regard to any point of knowledge or action.

Many would probably say my stance against gun control is my 'opinion'...some people say expressing religious beliefs is "forcing" it upon them. From what I understand, forcing one's "opinion" on others takes various forms..expressing pro-gun sentiment, pro-life..etc...that's considered "forcing your opinion on me".

Believing that one has the right to avoid being "forced" to listen to the opinions of others is, by definition, an opinion..correct?

So...if the "forcing opinion" argument is actually someone's opinion, are they not violating their opinion by forcing it on others?

Just a thought..
-Cadet

that's Your opinion.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: rbloedow
New
You're so new
you
you're new
And I've never had this taste in my past
you
you're so new

My opinion has been forced upon you - have anice day

Did you at least have the courtesy to lube up your opinion before the forcing, Mr Rbloedow?

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: rbloedow New You're so new you you're new And I've never had this taste in my past you you're so new My opinion has been forced upon you - have anice day

Did you at least have the courtesy to lube up your opinion before the forcing, Mr Rbloedow?

LMAO - I think I'm going to have to edit my post - you're looking at it from a dirty perspective!!!!!!!!!! They're lyrics from No Doubt's song "New" for God's sake! I was so dumbfounded that I didn't know what to say - so I typed the lyrics to the song since i was listening to it!

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: Spamela

Originally posted by: CadetLee
According to arguments common-place here at ATOT, individuals do not have the 'right' to 'force' their opinions on others. This thought is very strong to some people, but I would like to pose a question.

What is an opinion?

\O*pin"ion\, n. [F., from L. opinio. See Opine.] 1. That which is opined; a notion or conviction founded on probable evidence; belief stronger than impression, less strong than positive knowledge; settled judgment in regard to any point of knowledge or action.

Many would probably say my stance against gun control is my 'opinion'...some people say expressing religious beliefs is "forcing" it upon them. From what I understand, forcing one's "opinion" on others takes various forms..expressing pro-gun sentiment, pro-life..etc...that's considered "forcing your opinion on me".

Believing that one has the right to avoid being "forced" to listen to the opinions of others is, by definition, an opinion..correct?

So...if the "forcing opinion" argument is actually someone's opinion, are they not violating their opinion by forcing it on others?

Just a thought..
-Cadet

that's Your opinion.

I never said it wasn't...

It's more logical than some, though.

 

[BigJohnKC]

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: Spamela

Originally posted by: CadetLee
According to arguments common-place here at ATOT, individuals do not have the 'right' to 'force' their opinions on others. This thought is very strong to some people, but I would like to pose a question.

What is an opinion?

\O*pin"ion\, n. [F., from L. opinio. See Opine.] 1. That which is opined; a notion or conviction founded on probable evidence; belief stronger than impression, less strong than positive knowledge; settled judgment in regard to any point of knowledge or action.

Many would probably say my stance against gun control is my 'opinion'...some people say expressing religious beliefs is "forcing" it upon them. From what I understand, forcing one's "opinion" on others takes various forms..expressing pro-gun sentiment, pro-life..etc...that's considered "forcing your opinion on me".

Believing that one has the right to avoid being "forced" to listen to the opinions of others is, by definition, an opinion..correct?

So...if the "forcing opinion" argument is actually someone's opinion, are they not violating their opinion by forcing it on others?

Just a thought..
-Cadet

that's Your opinion.

I never said it wasn't...

It's more logical than some, though.

that's Your opinion.

 

[StageLeft]

Yes that's right.

Opinions are overrated. People love to call something their opinion because they simply don't know all of the facts or enough to get to the truth, and so they call it an opinion. Does God exist? Does He not? It's not an opinion. It's a fact: either he does or he doesn't. Two people may have differing opinions but one of them is wrong.

Opinions are a shortcut to approaching truth and fact. Even things like "That sweater looks better than this one" is not really grounds for an opinion. With enough data - which of course is often not available - the truth behind something can be seen.

Should the US attack Iraq or should they not? One person says yes, another says no. One of them is wrong.

 

[BigJohnKC]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Yes that's right.

Opinions are overrated. People love to call something their opinion because they simply don't know all of the facts or enough to get to the truth, and so they call it an opinion. Does God exist? Does He not? It's not an opinion. It's a fact: either he does or he doesn't. Two people may have differing opinions but one of them is wrong.

Opinions are a shortcut to approaching truth and fact. Even things like "That sweater looks better than this one" is not really grounds for an opinion. With enough data - which of course is often not available - the truth behind something can be seen.

Should the US attack Iraq or should they not? One person says yes, another says no. One of them is wrong.

And yet somehow, everyone that frequents ATOT thinks that only their own opinion is right. I seem to remember from high school science class that something cannot be an opinion if it can be proven either right or wrong. But some proofs are not accepted - i.e. people have the opinion that the proof is incorrect, which in itself is a fact. It's a vicious circle.

The thing that really annoys me is when someone says something, states an opinion, then another person states that they disagree and posts a differing, opposite opinion, then the first person says something like, "no, you're wrong, and damn you for forcing your opinion on me." It's asinine to think that if someone says they disagree with you they are forcing their opinion on you. It's simply sharing, perhaps with a persuasiveness, but impossible to force, unless some threat is applied, like, "agree with me or I'll kick your ass," and then actually following through with that typically empty promise.

But that's just my opinion