You ain't 'Texas' enough . . .

CaptnKirk

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You done been gone to Iraq too long . . .

Going to college after being in the service shouldn't have to be this hard:

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AUSTIN - Carl Basham was born in Beeville, registered to vote in Travis County in 1998, holds a Texas driver's license and does his banking in Austin.

So he was shocked when Austin Community College told him a few weeks ago that he didn't qualify as a Texas resident "for tuition purposes." Basham, a former Marine corporal, said he was even more shocked when officials told him why: After two tours of duty in Iraq, he's been out of the state too long to qualify.

"They told me that I have to physically live in the state of Texas for at least a year," Basham said in an interview Tuesday. "It kind of hurts." Austin Community College officials were unable to specify why Basham isn't considered a Texas resident, only that he didn't meet state requirements as determined by the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board. A spokeswoman said privacy laws prevent a discussion of Basham's case.

An official at another college said the fact that he entered the military in another state nearly a decade ago, despite his deep Texas ties, might be the reason.

Either way, two state officials said bureaucratic technicalities should not prevent the decorated veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom from being considered a Texas resident -- and paying about $500 a semester in tuition instead of around $2,600.

"Mr. Basham has gone to war for us, and I intend to go to war for him!" said state Comptroller Carole Keeton Strayhorn, in a letter to the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board. "We owe it to our returning service men and women to make it as easy and uncomplicated as possible for them to resume their normal lives."

Likewise, state Rep. Suzanna Hupp, R-Lampasas, who represents many veterans serving at Fort Hood, said she wants to investigate the matter.

"I think we need to look into it further. It doesn't make sense that people who have bullets flying over their head aren't treated properly when they get back," she said.

The higher education board is investigating the case, an official there said.

Basham, 27, said he has to come up with about $3,000 now to pay for tuition and books as he works toward a degree in emergency medical care. Although he expects to get his college paid for eventually by the federal government, he said those GI benefits won't kick in for several more months, so he's stuck with high out-of-pocket expenses for now.

Basham's wife, Jolie, said an admissions officer at the college kept asking for documents proving his Texas residency. He brought in his driver's license, car registration papers, voter registration card, bank records and tax returns -- all sporting a Texas address.

"She said, 'It's really your military service that's holding you back.' I couldn't believe that those words came out of her mouth," Jolie Basham, a California native, recalled.

She said it stung her husband badly to be told he was not a Texan.

"He's always Texas this and Texas that," she said. "It's always been his home."
 

sandorski

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That'd suck. Though being called "not Texas enough" is probably a good thing! ;)
 

BushBasha

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Basham, a former Marine corporal, said he was even more shocked when officials told him why: After two tours of duty in Iraq, he's been out of the state too long to qualify.

"She said, 'It's really your military service that's holding you back.' I couldn't believe that those words came out of her mouth," Jolie Basham, a California native, recalled


Wow is all I can say...wow.

 

RichPLS

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WTF, I thought the military would pay for college anyway.
Regardless, bum deal.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
You done been gone to Iraq too long . . .

Going to college after being in the service shouldn't have to be this hard:

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Basham's wife, Jolie, said an admissions officer at the college kept asking for documents proving his Texas residency. He brought in his driver's license, car registration papers, voter registration card, bank records and tax returns -- all sporting a Texas address.

"She said, 'It's really your military service that's holding you back.' I couldn't believe that those words came out of her mouth," Jolie Basham, a California native, recalled.

:cool: Hopefully more Sheeple will wake up :thumbsup:
 

EagleKeeper

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He enlisted from another state, and apparently the admin officer has a burr up their tail.

However, it should have been able to be cleared up easily by going up the chain instead of the media.
 

BushBasha

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Originally posted by: RichPLS
WTF, I thought the military would pay for college anyway.
Regardless, bum deal.

I am sure he can draw his GI BIll, but by the sounds of it, would still have to pay out of state rates...crazy. When I was stationed at Fort Hood, I set that up as my place of domicile, for State-Tax purposes (originally from the great tax state of NY)...and even after 5-6 years overseas, I was still considered a resident, I thought...doesn't make sense to me. I am sure, though, that this will be overturned...at least I hope.
 

PatboyX

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Originally posted by: BushBasha
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Basham, a former Marine corporal, said he was even more shocked when officials told him why: After two tours of duty in Iraq, he's been out of the state too long to qualify.

"She said, 'It's really your military service that's holding you back.' I couldn't believe that those words came out of her mouth," Jolie Basham, a California native, recalled


Wow is all I can say...wow.

yeah, howd you like to wake up one morning and realize that youd said that to someone?
you know she was probably just trying to say "the reason is because you were out of the state due to military service..." but just slopped it together in a daze over the phone.
 

bamacre

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Either way, two state officials said bureaucratic technicalities should not prevent the decorated veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom from being considered a Texas resident -- and paying about $500 a semester in tuition instead of around $2,600.

"Mr. Basham has gone to war for us, and I intend to go to war for him!" said state Comptroller Carole Keeton Strayhorn, in a letter to the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board. "We owe it to our returning service men and women to make it as easy and uncomplicated as possible for them to resume their normal lives."


Looks like he has some help.
 

piasabird

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When you initially enlist generally where ever you put on the form as home of record has to be used as your home of record. Often if you are a serviceman that is where they pay you to return to when you are discharged. If it says Texas he is probably considered Texan.
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: catnap1972
More proof of what the government thinks of "the troops" :roll:

WTF? The a school admission officer didn't want to consider him a local resident for tuition purposes, but both the Comptroller and a state Representative (R) are going to bat for him.

Take your off-base, useless rhetoric and shove it, you worthless troll.
 

TheGameIs21

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Fact is that he was living in another state when he signed up for the military. At that point, the other state became his legal home of record. Since that state was not Texas, he didn't qualify to recieve in state tuition. Just like any other person that moves to a state, he was required to live there for a year before he qualified.

I don't see what's wrong with this. By joining the military and claiming another state of residence (If he really lived in Tx at the time), he did this to himself. I do have issue with the twit that stated "It's really your military service that's holdign you back". I doubt those were the exact words but if they were... Stupid stupid stupid.

In regards to his GI Benefits (Montgomery GI Bill) not kicking in for several more months, I was entitled to my GI Bill after my first year of Active Duty and they have been available to me and will be for 10 years after I seperated with an Honorable Discharge. Unless they have come out with a new GI Bill (99% sure they haven't), he has been misinformed about his benefits and needs to read the documentation provided to him or online.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: nutxo
Originally posted by: sandorski
That'd suck. Though being called "not Texas enough" is probably a good thing! ;)


Text I dunno, this is how I think of canadians ;)

Hehehe, what's wrong with that? At lteast we know how to use Duct Tape! ;)
 

charrison

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Same thing happened to my wife when she started college. Her father was serving in Germany at the time, while being a Texas land owner and property tax payer. She got dinged for out of state tuition for the first year.
 

PatboyX

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: nutxo
Originally posted by: sandorski
That'd suck. Though being called "not Texas enough" is probably a good thing! ;)


Text I dunno, this is how I think of canadians ;)

Hehehe, what's wrong with that? At lteast we know how to use Duct Tape! ;)

didnt know that was from canada.
makes it even more exciting.
 

Genesys

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
You done been gone to Iraq too long . . .

Going to college after being in the service shouldn't have to be this hard:

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Basham's wife, Jolie, said an admissions officer at the college kept asking for documents proving his Texas residency. He brought in his driver's license, car registration papers, voter registration card, bank records and tax returns -- all sporting a Texas address.

"She said, 'It's really your military service that's holding you back.' I couldn't believe that those words came out of her mouth," Jolie Basham, a California native, recalled.

:cool: Hopefully more Sheeple will wake up :thumbsup:


That has got to be one of the worst things I have ever seen you post.
 

imported_Condor

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You can always beat this. Requirements in most states for college focus on a year in residence. Where you get them is that most states require only 180 days residency for tax purposes. I've beat this in a couple of states.
 

DaveSimmons

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To people trolling for left or right, this isn't partisan action or partisan consequences, it's one paper-pusher blindly obeying rules.

Can't we all just get along and blame the "bureaucratic" party on this one?