Yikes - Fox News' Jeanine Pirro goes on rant against BLM

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Moonbeam

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Moonbeam: Your psychobabble has gotten really old. Occasionally you add something halfway interesting to a conversation, but when you're in full on whiteguilt leftloon mode you're as boring as any other idiot lefty.

My dear Zaap, my psychobabble is old only in the sense it is an eternal truth that calls from you out of a darkness you are terrified to face. But you have nothing to fear. You live behind walls that keep you strong and safe and if they ever begin to fail, you can always run or thump your chest and hoot into the wind. Run far and fast from the terrible monster that is only my hand. Yes, run far and run fast; you may be the first person in history who can outrun the monster within himself.

Hehe, you tickle me deeply, you and your "psychobabble". Next thing you know and I'll be on drugs, a lefty wanker, a progy, we monsters, we do love our names.

So tell me, dear Zaap, what does my white guilt consist of?
 

Moonbeam

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Protecting the American people from police brutality should be an all inclusive message. That they tie themselves to criminal wannabe cop killers under the lies of "Hands up, Don't shoot" only makes it worse.

Clinton tied herself to them with their direct inclusion on stage at the DNC.

When you can transcend the innate property of the human mind to anticipate danger based on past experiences, you will have something to offer police who come in contact on a daily basis with the worst the human race has to offer, and in areas predominately Black that will be Black people. Until that time, you may be expecting of others what you yourself could never deliver.

The human brain is Profiling Central in my opinion.
 

Zaap

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So tell me, dear Zaap, what does my white guilt consist of?
It consists of you thinking you speak for any race or group of people. The typical leftloon 'white-knight' syndrome when it comes to black people and other minorities.

It actually reveals you think of most minorities as inferior and in need of your protection.

I don't think there's any minority that requires the 'protection' of wussy white liberals. Most actually AREN'T inferior to you in any way.

And another irony? There's GOOD number that would actually beat you senseless if you actually ever tread anywhere outside your basement in whatever lilly white suburb you dwell in and spouted half your psychobabble anywhere near them. But don't get me wrong, I'm glad you actually would never do that, I wouldn't actually want that much reality to visit you in an unpleasant way.
 
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Racism is wrong. And we ought to listen to what racists have to say for what is valid from their experience. If you reject a racist out of turn, and fear identifying with them strongly enough, you end up just as bigoted.

You can replace "racism" in that paragraph with any other heuristic method for determining the motives of others.

And racism is only worse than any other profiling because society has agreed that it is worse.

I agree with moonbeam that the human brain is Profiling Central.

Which leaves us only one solution to this mess. Identify with each other and get to know them for who they are instead of what you see.
 

MrA79

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She said the entire thing was based on a lie.
While it's true what she said about the two big cases that brought the whole thing to a boil - Trayvon & Brown - she seems completely oblivious that the movement is about the unequal treatment of blacks in our criminal justice system. And, she's doubling down by tying the whole thing to Hillary. Egads. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1WnfrfFMVI Even when another commentator tried to bring up the case of Kinsey - the unarmed caregiver laying on the ground with his hands above his head, she talked over him. Looks like Fox is going all in on hateful division.

The movement is absolutely NOT about unequal treatment. It's about blacks not being treated 'more equally' than everyone else.
 

Moonbeam

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Zaap: It (White guilt) consists of you thinking you speak for any race or group of people. The typical leftloon 'white-knight' syndrome when it comes to black people and other minorities.

M: Hehe, you have a fascinating capacity to project. Your incapacity to identify with racists makes me the White-Knight? Don't you mean I speak for all people because we are all the same and he who knows the truth about himself knows the truth about everybody. I see the racism in you because I don't deny the racism in me. I told you I see you out of a darkness into which you fear to look. You have too little humility. You are the White Knight whose armor gleams to prevent you from seeing your inner reality. I am the racist pig who can see himself and therefore has no need of guilt. It is the blind to themselves who are imprisoned, not those who deny their guilt. You are lily white in your denial and I'm a racist pig. You inhabit a world of your own creation that is upside down. You live in denial of your guilt while I serve sentence. There is a reason the church offers confession. Do you know that joy in your soul.

You are the great and wonderful Zaap, and I'm a nobody.

Z: It actually reveals you think of most minorities as inferior and in need of your protection.

M: Boy you can say that again. You have not the faintest idea how inferior you feel. Nor can you begin to imagine how the protection I can offer you were you to be a nobody like me. Where can you fall when you're laying flat on the ground.

Z: I don't think there's any minority that requires the 'protection' of wussy white liberals. Most actually AREN'T inferior to you in any way.

M: You mean to tell me that the love that lies hidden within us is there for everybody. You don't sound anything at all like a believer to me. Why else would you struggle to put me down for you to be up? You see you do this, do you not? Where's that big strong man who isn't too bothered by psychobabble. Oh man. You tickle me.

Z: And another irony? There's GOOD number that would actually beat you senseless if you actually ever tread anywhere outside your basement in whatever lilly white suburb you dwell in and spouted half your psychobabble anywhere near them. But don't get me wrong, I'm glad you actually would never do that, I wouldn't actually want that much reality to visit you in an unpleasant way.

M: Good grief Zaap.... How do you think you could possibly know that if you didn't feel in in yourself. I know who you are because I know me. If I hate you back I would hate myself for hating myself. That's just not a great idea.

Know then Zaap, the violence you project on me from yourself and others is nothing at all to the violence I feel for myself. I have felt such rage in my fists that they've left bruises on my flesh.

Your rage, my dear Zaap, is nothing but a mask for your pain. You waste your time beating a dead horse. But if you want to learn more about who we are grab a wheelbarrow for my psychobabble and gird up your loins and prepare for Mr. Toad's wild ride.
 

Moonbeam

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Wouldn't it be so much better if we could challenge ourselves to interact as individuals without validating our preconceptions based on race? Well, how about if we do that and avoid denying that our preconceptions exist and why. Maybe we'd then validate both and choose which is more useful.

I believe that when one deals with paradox one nears a truth, the integration of opposites at a higher level of understanding. The merit of your suggestion, I believe, is that you are asking that both ends of the stick be held up for conscious attention. It is in that state, I think, that some psychological shock can occur that produces some insight that causes the seeming opposites to be seen as different aspects of the same thing. In this way I think, truth has a lot in common with humor, the moment the joke is seen there is a kind of pleasure and a release. At least that is what my buddy Mulla Nasrudin seems to tell me.
 

BurnItDwn

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I heard that some people are so stupid they think BLM stands for "Only Black Lives Matter."
 

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I believe that when one deals with paradox one nears a truth, the integration of opposites at a higher level of understanding. The merit of your suggestion, I believe, is that you are asking that both ends of the stick be held up for conscious attention. It is in that state, I think, that some psychological shock can occur that produces some insight that causes the seeming opposites to be seen as different aspects of the same thing. In this way I think, truth has a lot in common with humor, the moment the joke is seen there is a kind of pleasure and a release. At least that is what my buddy Mulla Nasrudin seems to tell me.

All conflicts need a defense. Humor is a damned sight better one than splitting, projective identification, denial, etc.
 

Zaap

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Yeah, what does Morgan Freeman know? :D

Fact: If he posted those very same words in this forum he'd be called a racist by wussy white liberals who think they're white-knighting for black people, because of course they need wussy white libs for that.

Side note: there are a select few wussy liberals I wouldn't mind seeing Morgan kick the living shit out of at the idea he needs them 'protecting' him from anything. Even at his age I bet he could do it. Not that he would of course, he's a gentleman. I'm just saying... something that I'd kind of like to see!
 

Jaskalas

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The racist willful blind are strong in this thread.

A smear to hide behind while supporting a movement based on lies, criminals, and wannabe cop killers.
Saying BLM is wholesome is like voting for Trump's America First policy, while ignoring the vile character of the man behind it.

There are better and more inclusive ways of addressing police violence and abuse. Look to the leadership of the Dallas police chief. Rally behind honorable and respectable men like him, and you would live in a nation where no one need shout the obvious.
 

MrA79

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Zaap: It (White guilt) consists of you thinking you speak for any race or group of people. The typical leftloon 'white-knight' syndrome when it comes to black people and other minorities.

M: Hehe, you have a fascinating capacity to project. Your incapacity to identify with racists makes me the White-Knight? Don't you mean I speak for all people because we are all the same and he who knows the truth about himself knows the truth about everybody. I see the racism in you because I don't deny the racism in me. I told you I see you out of a darkness into which you fear to look. You have too little humility. You are the White Knight whose armor gleams to prevent you from seeing your inner reality. I am the racist pig who can see himself and therefore has no need of guilt. It is the blind to themselves who are imprisoned, not those who deny their guilt. You are lily white in your denial and I'm a racist pig. You inhabit a world of your own creation that is upside down. You live in denial of your guilt while I serve sentence. There is a reason the church offers confession. Do you know that joy in your soul.

You are the great and wonderful Zaap, and I'm a nobody.

Z: It actually reveals you think of most minorities as inferior and in need of your protection.

M: Boy you can say that again. You have not the faintest idea how inferior you feel. Nor can you begin to imagine how the protection I can offer you were you to be a nobody like me. Where can you fall when you're laying flat on the ground.

Z: I don't think there's any minority that requires the 'protection' of wussy white liberals. Most actually AREN'T inferior to you in any way.

M: You mean to tell me that the love that lies hidden within us is there for everybody. You don't sound anything at all like a believer to me. Why else would you struggle to put me down for you to be up? You see you do this, do you not? Where's that big strong man who isn't too bothered by psychobabble. Oh man. You tickle me.

Z: And another irony? There's GOOD number that would actually beat you senseless if you actually ever tread anywhere outside your basement in whatever lilly white suburb you dwell in and spouted half your psychobabble anywhere near them. But don't get me wrong, I'm glad you actually would never do that, I wouldn't actually want that much reality to visit you in an unpleasant way.

M: Good grief Zaap.... How do you think you could possibly know that if you didn't feel in in yourself. I know who you are because I know me. If I hate you back I would hate myself for hating myself. That's just not a great idea.

Know then Zaap, the violence you project on me from yourself and others is nothing at all to the violence I feel for myself. I have felt such rage in my fists that they've left bruises on my flesh.

Your rage, my dear Zaap, is nothing but a mask for your pain. You waste your time beating a dead horse. But if you want to learn more about who we are grab a wheelbarrow for my psychobabble and gird up your loins and prepare for Mr. Toad's wild ride.

Do you just like... not have anything better to do? Is that it?
 

Moonbeam

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Do you just like... not have anything better to do? Is that it?

Wouldn't it be best that you ask yourself.

I saw this exchange:

Originally Posted by BurnItDwn:

"I heard that some people are so stupid they think BLM stands for "Only Black Lives Matter."

Originally posted by MrA79:

"Funny - I heard some people are so stupid they think it doesn't."

Did you just have nothing better to do than to contend that he and not you is the stupid one, and based on what, that you had nothing in your empty head to contradict him but your counterclaim? Where's the beef, man? I can see why having nothing better to do might have been on your mind. You didn't just have nothing better to do, you had nothing at all.

So tell me in your great wisdom why it is that Black Lives Matter actually means Only Black Lives Matter. Don't be shy. Convince me with your gift of reason. Or do you have something better to do?
 

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A smear to hide behind while supporting a movement based on lies, criminals, and wannabe cop killers.
Saying BLM is wholesome is like voting for Trump's America First policy, while ignoring the vile character of the man behind it.

Perhaps I am reading more into this than I should. It sounds as though you might be somewhat angry at being expected to support a particular set of beliefs based on characteristics you have no choice but to possess, and that you are discriminated against, hated, and called names for striving to possess an individual opinion and identity that does not conform to particular expectations set by others.
 

dank69

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Yelling racism is so ingrained in many leftloons they do it as kneejerk reaction whenever their ideas (usually political hack bullshit) is challenged. It's both a defense mechanism similar to assuming a fetal position and pissing themselves, as well as a ping to the totalitarian mindset that says "Shut down all non-approved WrongSpeak!"

It used to work better than it does now, as more and more people are on to it and not cowed by false charges of racism thrown up literally ALWAYS, EVERY TIME, EVERY DEBATE, EVERY ARGUMENT, EVERY ISSUE.

Don't mistake leftloons for people that would ever realize when something is so worn out and tired that it's become a joke to most people, cause they still think it's effective.

He says to the conservative calling people racists...
 

Moonbeam

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He says to the conservative calling people racists...

It seems that Zaap, having see a valid criticism of extremist authoritarianism on the left goes bat shit crazy himself as a reaction. The think I notice about real understanding, in my opinion, is that it is just understanding and not insane reaction. Facts are facts and the donkey braying in the yard doesn't really have anything to do with anything other than the fact that donkeys like to kick. It's the way of donkeys, try not to get upset.