Yet another what to do

biostud

Lifer
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Current rig:
2100+@2083Mhz
9800pro
2x512Mb PC3200 Corsair Value
1 80gb 7200rpm
Seasonic Silent Tornado 400W


My first intentions were:
DFI Lanparty NF4 SLI-D
G70/r520
X2 4400
Asetek watercooling
2x1Gb ram (which would should be able to o/c)
73 Raptor II

Now after doing some thoughts about it several thing speak very much against this über rig. Cost, availability and lack of software that utilize these parts.

So instead I thought:
DFI Lanparty NF4 SLI-D
6800GT
a Venice or San Diego core A64
Thermalright XP-120 or 90
Old 2x512Mb Corsair Value
73 Gb Raptor II

Now the obvious reasons for choosing this is that it "fixes" what speak against the other system. And I could wait and see if the new sockets+DDR-II benefits dualcore, and wait to go really über until software that benefits dualcores actually are wide availible.

So my questions are:
Using value ram for o/c will probably be a limit, but could I choose the ram to run at a 4:3 divider, and thereby increasing my possibilites to reach a higher clock? or is there another multiplier better suited? or should I just drop any thoughts of o/c with value ram?

Which CPU to choose? (danish prices)
Venice 3000+ $196
Venice 3200+ $247
Venice 3500+ $345
San Diego 3700+ $422
Venice 3800+ $500
San Diego 4000+ $620

Mostly it concerns the multipliers on the Venice cores. The 3200+ seems to be the best deal, if I could run with 4:3 I should be able to get ~2700Mhz.
The 3000+ would give ~2400 and the 3500+ ~2900 (but that might be pushing my luck, even with water cooling)

Thoughts?
(I have a 250Gb external drive so I don't need extra space on my hdd, so therefor the Raptor)
 

biostud

Lifer
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Just went over to CPU section, Zebo's o/c guide helped answering my concerns to o/c. I'll probably stick with a Thermalright XP-120 or 90, instead of the watercooling. I think I'll aim for the San Diego 3700+ or the venice 3200+ depending on how much money I'm willing to burn.
 

Chosonman

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Overclocking is really for those who cannot afford higher performance and don't mind a cheap thrill. Why would you want to risk it with those nice parts?
Expect a 10% overall improvement at best.

Personally, I think the RMA's and hassle of returning broken parts costs us more than the money you save for the extra performance.
 

biostud

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Originally posted by: Chosonman
Overclocking is really for those who cannot afford higher performance and don't mind a cheap thrill. Why would you want to risk it with those nice parts?
Expect a 10% overall improvement at best.

Personally, I think the RMA's and hassle of returning broken parts costs us more than the money you save for the extra performance.

I don't return parts I've broken because I o/c. I'm not one who need to have the highest 3DM2K5 score, but if the chip is capable of running the extra Mhz, why don't do it?

I just feel better if I've tweaked my system ;)
 
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Originally posted by: biostud
Originally posted by: Chosonman
Overclocking is really for those who cannot afford higher performance and don't mind a cheap thrill. Why would you want to risk it with those nice parts?
Expect a 10% overall improvement at best.

Personally, I think the RMA's and hassle of returning broken parts costs us more than the money you save for the extra performance.

I don't return parts I've broken because I o/c. I'm not one who need to have the highest 3DM2K5 score, but if the chip is capable of running the extra Mhz, why don't do it?

I just feel better if I've tweaked my system ;)
:thumbsup:

I am personally waiting for X2's and R520/G70 to become somewhat affordable, but then again, my current system isn't that slow (AXP @ 2.4GHz w/ 6800GT)...