yet another suicide bomb blast.

[ThePresence]

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This is the Palestinian idea of peace talks.

 

[burnedout]

Here is another link

 

[ThePresence]

Here's a pic of the Hotel exterior. I've stayed there myself. Bastards.

 

[Nitemare]

Now we know why the dude left the Arab summit prematurely..He had to fit the guy with the bomb..it makes perfect sense now and here it was I thought it was something that somebody said...

 

[LukFilm]

This is happening so often that soon we'll be just using YASBB as an abbreviation for these events...

 

[ThePresence]

<< This is happening so often that soon we'll be just using YASBB as an abbreviation for these events... >>


hope not, but it IS starting to seem that way...

 

[Tripleshot]

It is obvious the end to this dispute will not come without warfare and much bloodshed. The cowardlly way the Palistenians go about blowing themselves up in hotels and restauraunts, killing innocent, defenseless, un suspecting women, children, and other non combatents who where gathered to partake of the beginnning of Passover, a major releigous function in Isreal, speaks volumes about the evil of the PLO and hamas, theAl quada, taliban and all the scum islamic mofos who think this behavior is honorable and acceptable.

I think we shoud nuke that pile a sand into the stoneage and pave it over.:|

 

[SaltBoy]

Yawn. Seriously -- yawn. Isn't that sad?

 

[ThePresence]

<< Yawn. Seriously -- yawn. Isn't that sad? >>



Yes. The loss of life is becoming so commonplace that we are losing our sensitivity to death.

 

[Stifko]

I will most likey get flamed for this, but the Isrealis have made their bed and now they are sleeping in it. Sharon's hardline approach is obviously not working and not the right tact to take. They don't wanna give up any real estate, and yet they claim to want peace. This makes no kind of sense to me. I feel badly for all the innocent victims that are being blown up on a regular, but why did they build perment settlements on occupied lands? They have no intention of handing those territories back over to the Arabs, and I feel that the blood will keep flowing because of this. They are at a terrible stalemate and have been for years. Now even if there is an effort to soften the line and make concessions, hardliners and rightwingers on both sides will try to sabotage the peace process. Its a real mess over there.

 

[aphex]

<< but why did they build perment settlements on occupied lands? They have no intention of handing those territories back over to the Arabs, and I feel that the blood will keep flowing because of this. >>



Didnt we do the same to the indians?

 

[Stifko]

Didnt we do the same to the indians?

yeah, but does that make it right?

 

[ThePresence]

<< I will most likey get flamed for this, but the Isrealis have made their bed and now they are sleeping in it. Sharon's hardline approach is obviously not working and not the right tact to take. They don't wanna give up any real estate, and yet they claim to want peace. This makes no kind of sense to me. I feel badly for all the innocent victims that are being blown up on a regular, but why did they build perment settlements on occupied lands? They have no intention of handing those territories back over to the Arabs, and I feel that the blood will keep flowing because of this. They are at a terrible stalemate and have been for years. Now even if there is an effort to soften the line and make concessions, hardliners and rightwingers on both sides will try to sabotage the peace process. Its a real mess over there. >>



I'm sure you're right. It's the Israelis that really dont want peace. That's why the Israeli's are blowing up Palestinian women and children with suicide bombers. thats why the Israelis indocrinate their children that the noblest thing they can do is to kill Palestinian children. Thats why the Israeli government agreed to sit down and talk peace TWICE after suicide bombings and held off retaliation. Yes, I'm sure the Israelis really dont want peace. Jeeez.

 

[Random Variable]

The death toll is at 15, and they expect it to go up.

 

[Amused]

What people refuse to understand is there IS no peace for the Arabs without the total annihilation of the state of Israel. This has been their ultimate goal all along, and why the whole thing started in the first place.

Contrary to popular PC opinions, there IS a good guy and a bad guy in this conflict.

The bad guy's ultimate goal is the complete destruction of the other guy, but they don't have the means or strength to do it ... it's not for repeated lack of trying, though, with the help of all the surrounding nations even.

The good guy's ultimate goal is just to be left the f'ck alone ... and they haven't destroyed the other guy, even though they have more than enough ability to do so. Not to mention they have soundly stomped all aggressors in three major wars, and countless smaller conflicts, yet have not destroyed a single country.

Yes, it really is that simple, folks.

 

[aphex]

<< What people refuse to understand is there IS no peace for the Arabs without the total annihilation of the state of Israel. This has been their ultimate goal all along, and why the whole thing started in the first place.

Contrary to popular PC opinions, there IS a good guy and a bad guy in this conflict.

The bad guy's ultimate goal is the complete destruction of the other guy, but they don't have the means or strength to do it ... it's not for repeated lack of trying, though, with the help of all the surrounding nations even.

The good guy's ultimate goal is just to be left the f'ck alone ... and they haven't destroyed the other guy, even though they have more than enough ability to do so. Not to mention they have soundly stomped all aggressors in three major wars, and countless smaller conflicts, yet have not destroyed a single country.

Yes, it really is that simple, folks. >>



Very well stated, i agree with you 100%

 

[ThePresence]

<< What people refuse to understand is there IS no peace for the Arabs without the total annihilation of the state of Israel. This has been their ultimate goal all along, and why the whole thing started in the first place.

Contrary to popular PC opinions, there IS a good guy and a bad guy in this conflict.

The bad guy's ultimate goal is the complete destruction of the other guy, but they don't have the means or strength to do it ... it's not for repeated lack of trying, though, with the help of all the surrounding nations even.

The good guy's ultimate goal is just to be left the f'ck alone ... and they haven't destroyed the other guy, even though they have more than enough ability to do so. Not to mention they have soundly stomped all aggressors in three major wars, and countless smaller conflicts, yet have not destroyed a single country.

Yes, it really is that simple, folks >>



Damn right.

 

[Stifko]

ThePresence, I don't wanna get into a major agruement w/you. Talking politics is like walking on eggshells and I am not too delicate. You sound like you are just listening to one side of the story anyway. Just a few weeks ago, the Isrealis blew up a car that they belived was being driven by a high ranking Palestinian military officer, only to kill his wife and children. The Isrealis just pulled back from a major offensive in Arab lands. Please don't make them out to be innocent, peace wanting ppl, b/c thats not the reality. War is very dirty and this is a particulary dirty war. You have to read between the lines and seek out a more objective news source if you even care to have a somewhat objective perspective, IMHO.

 

[ThePresence]

<< ThePresence, I don't wanna get into a major agruement w/you. Talking politics is like walking on eggshells and I am not too delicate. You sound like you are just listening to one side of the story anyway. Just a few weeks ago, the Isrealis blew up a car that they belived was being driven by a high ranking Palestinian military officer, only to kill his wife and children. The Isrealis just pulled back from a major offensive in Arab lands. Please don't make them out to be innocent, peace wanting ppl, b/c thats not the reality. War is very dirty and this is a particulary dirty war. You have to read between the lines and seek out a more objective news source if you even care to have a somewhat objective perspective, IMHO. >>



OK, I understand why you feel the way you do, and I do agree that I'm one sided. However, I am one sided because I've lived there and experienced what Israelis are going through, and I believe the only side is that side. When the Israelis blew up that car, they were trying to kill a mass murdering terrorist, don't make him out to be an honorable officer. Tragically, it went wrong and innocents died. But thats not what they were TRYING to do. The palestinians are TRYING to kill innocent Israeli civillians. Thats a HUGE difference, and I dont see how you can miss it.

 

[Nitemare]

<< ThePresence, I don't wanna get into a major agruement w/you. Talking politics is like walking on eggshells and I am not too delicate. You sound like you are just listening to one side of the story anyway. Just a few weeks ago, the Isrealis blew up a car that they belived was being driven by a high ranking Palestinian military officer, only to kill his wife and children. The Isrealis just pulled back from a major offensive in Arab lands. Please don't make them out to be innocent, peace wanting ppl, b/c thats not the reality. War is very dirty and this is a particulary dirty war. You have to read between the lines and seek out a more objective news source if you even care to have a somewhat objective perspective, IMHO. >>



that is the difference, the Israeli's thought that it was a bad guy so they tried to take out the vehicle and mistakingly killed the dudes family. A Palestinian would kill his wife, children and any other person that they guy cared about because they are heartless snakes.

Israeli's kill civilians by accident
Palestinians kill civilians because that is all they are capable of.

 

[Stifko]

Israeli's kill civilians by accident
Palestinians kill civilians because that is all they are capable of.

Thats a HUGE difference, and I dont see how you can miss it.

It is a tremendous difference and I do acknowledge it. I am not as well informed about the guy they were gunning for either.

I am also glad that my opinion didn't piss you off, ThePresence. What do you think is a vaible solution to the situation ?

 

[ThePresence]

<< Israeli's kill civilians by accident
Palestinians kill civilians because that is all they are capable of.

Thats a HUGE difference, and I dont see how you can miss it.

It is a tremendous difference and I do acknowledge it. I am not as well informed about the guy they were gunning for either.

I am also glad that my opinion didn't piss you off, ThePresence. What do you think is a vaible solution to the situation ? >>



I'm not the answer man. I have no idea what the solution to this problem is. I fear that solution is more violence, I fear that the Israelis have to go in and re-occupy the land that they gave away. The Palestinian Authority is a joke of a government, all it is is a terror support network, and a nice side effect is that Arafat makes millions off it, and it made him a legit statesman. This is one of the biggest terrorists in history, lets not forget that.

 

[ThePresence]

UPDATE:
21:00 IT: Reports of 15 Fatalities, 131 Casualties,
27 Critical, in Palestinian Suicide Attack on Passover Seder at Park Hotel in Netanya

Terrorist Entered Hotel with Large Suitcase Packed with Explosives, Nails, Spikes
Hotel Desk Thought He Was Tourist

Police Evacuating Thousands Visitors from Hotels in and Around Mediterranean Resort Town of Netanya

Hamas claims responsiblity in a phone call to Al-Jazeera.

 

[wolf550e]

Thank you AmusedOne. I'm afraid you're right.

 

[Amused]

<< Very well stated, i agree with you 100% >>



Thank you. BTW...

I'm coveting your Passat, aphexII. Wanna trade bodies with my 1999 Passat?