Yet another retarded Speeding Ticket on the LIE. NICE!

[isaacmacdonald]

Monday evening I was busy breaking the law, risking the lives of myself and the surrounding motorists on the LIE as I decided to move approx ~2mph under the predominante speed of traffic (me ~ 74mph). Thankfully a highway policeman swerved into the hov lane at approx 87mph to save me from my otherwise certain fate as roadkill. After pulling me over the officer informed me that I was going 80mph, and no he didn't have a radar reading but he was fairly good at estimation.

As the officer checked my registration and so forth, I found myself wondering about the actual purpose of pulling over a random and certainly miniscule fraction of those that exceed the posted limit of 55mph on this (at times) 8 Lane expressway. Why not pull over 1500% more people? Safety is the issue, so why not get serious about the presently grave situation?

 

[dafatha00]

Its impossible to pull over everyone. Just bad luck is all.

 

[isaacmacdonald]

Originally posted by: dafatha00
Its impossible to pull over everyone. Just bad luck is all.

*BZZZ*

 

[ElFenix]

if the gov't can't enforce the laws they're doing something wrong

 

[DainBramaged]

Sucks to be you. Better luck next time!

 

[Lithium381]

they just need to set up a FAT camara system and just start snaping photos and sendin' 'em in the mail.....instant budget!

 

[PlatinumGold]

guy goes before the judge regarding his speeding ticket.

he says to the judge, "judge, EVERYONE was speeding. many people were even going faster than me. but the officer only pulled ME over".

Judges says to the officer "is this true".

Officer replies "yes your honor. I did everything i was supposed to, turned on my lights, turned on my siren and this guy is the only person that stopped."

 

[pyonir]

a lot of times they aren't pulling you over for speeding (though that is the probable cause) they are pulling you over to see if you have anything on you....(warrants, suspended license, no insurance, visible bazookas, etc).

 

[GroundZero]

don't do the crime if you can't do the time, or in this case the fine

 

[isaacmacdonald]

Originally posted by: Lithium381
they just need to set up a FAT camara system and just start snaping photos and sendin' 'em in the mail.....instant budget!

I wonder if they've ever thought about that?

 

[GroundZero]

Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald

Originally posted by: Lithium381
they just need to set up a FAT camara system and just start snaping photos and sendin' 'em in the mail.....instant budget!

I wonder if they've ever thought about that?

they do it in oregon and some cities in washington have redlight cameras that catch people running red lights and issue tickets in the mail.

 

[Indolent]

Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald

Originally posted by: Lithium381
they just need to set up a FAT camara system and just start snaping photos and sendin' 'em in the mail.....instant budget!

I wonder if they've ever thought about that?

People get tickets, not cars. A lot of those types of cameras wouldn't be able to prove who was driving. Easy to say it was someone else driving your car.

 

[glugglug]

they just need to set up a FAT camara system and just start snaping photos and sendin' 'em in the mail.....instant budget!

They have those in EZ-pass lanes in central FL (speed limit while going through the EZ pass thing is 25). If you are going 30-50 you will likely get a ticket in the mail. At 51+, however, the camera is not rated to produce a reliable/readable picture of your license plate.

 

[eakers]

do you have a sports car? a friend of mine will get nailed for like 5 over because of the damn thing haha

 

[dafatha00]

Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald

Originally posted by: dafatha00
Its impossible to pull over everyone. Just bad luck is all.

*BZZZ*

*BZZZ*

 

[Angrymarshmello]

If he doesn't have a radar reading it'd be pretty easy to get it thrown out in court.

 

[YellowRose]

Originally posted by: Lithium381
they just need to set up a FAT camara system and just start snaping photos and sendin' 'em in the mail.....instant budget!

Yea they tried that here but so many people complained the city decided not ot go with the cameras.


Now do the cameras work. Yep. I was in Germany from 1983-1985 and a lot of our people ended up geting flashed. The cameras took a nice picture of your lic plate and your face. The local police would move the cameras around. You would find them on telephone poles and trees. Kinda of sneaky if you ask me.

 

Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello
If he doesn't have a radar reading it'd be pretty easy to get it thrown out in court.

No doubt.
Did he say he didnt have a radar? Thats pretty stupid of him.....

 

[isaacmacdonald]

Originally posted by: dafatha00

Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald

Originally posted by: dafatha00
Its impossible to pull over everyone. Just bad luck is all.

*BZZZ*

*BZZZ*

roll away.

the truth is, it would be quite feasable to pull over 15 times more people than they do now. The money generated by the tickets would more than pay for the extra police presense, and if speeding of this order posed a signifigant traffic hazard, extra police presense would be a rather obvious response to the flagrant violations. while the local leadership is not especially known for masterfull implementation, I don't think they're so stupid as to have overlooked this. the only real conclusion that can be gleaned from this pattern of random selective enforcement, is that full enforcement would ultimately be less usefull to the police/local township/state than the current incarnation.

for the record, I fully support automated ticketing devices primarilly because I believe usage of such devices would result in far more utilitarian traffic laws whose purpose would be motorist safety rather than an instrument for a defacto random, lottery like, regressive taxation policy.

and no, the ticket isn't going to make or break my month, week, or morning trip to starbucks. the truth is that I'm mostly disconcerted by the inconvienent form this tax takes. even now, I have a fair chance of getting out of the ticket (a speed estimate at rush hour), but to do so I'm going to have to show up at a court 20 miles from my house during the middle of a day (I have to take time off from work just to contest the ticket). *bah*

 

[rh71]

What time of day and what stretch of the LIE ? I got pulled over around exit 55 at midnight going 77, but that was because I was pretty much the only car on the road. Typically 75mph is avg... so that's why I ask when. Even this afternoon as I headed to exit 49 from 41 I was going 75 like the rest of traffic.

 

[isaacmacdonald]

Originally posted by: rh71
What time of day and what stretch of the LIE ? I got pulled over around exit 55 at midnight going 77, but that was because I was pretty much the only car on the road. Typically 75mph is avg... so that's why I ask when. Even this afternoon as I headed to exit 49 from 41 I was going 75 like the rest of traffic.

I was around exit 53 @ 6:00pm (west-bound, and fairly busy). I was actually a straggler in the left lane from the last grouping of cars, so the cars behind me were just catching up. The cop just pulled into the hov lane and pulled over the person at the front (me, though 30 seconds later and I would have been passed on the right by a black escalade).

I'm fairly certain the cop didn't have a line of sight. I think he was just assuming the leader of the pack would be going a bit faster than the guy he was cruising behind.

 

[Squisher]

Did you ever watch Jacques Clouseau with all the baby turtles trying to return to the sea and being picked apart at random first by seagulls and then by all the other predators?

This image typifies the daily drive of the typical commuter.

 

[Yossarian]

I always enjoy reading whiny "why me" speeder posts.

 

[Yossarian]

Originally posted by: Phocas

Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello
If he doesn't have a radar reading it'd be pretty easy to get it thrown out in court.

No doubt.
Did he say he didnt have a radar? Thats pretty stupid of him.....

Cop does not need radar to get you for speeding.

 

[isaacmacdonald]

Originally posted by: Indolent

Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald

Originally posted by: Lithium381
they just need to set up a FAT camara system and just start snaping photos and sendin' 'em in the mail.....instant budget!

I wonder if they've ever thought about that?

People get tickets, not cars. A lot of those types of cameras wouldn't be able to prove who was driving. Easy to say it was someone else driving your car.

not that easy. I mean parking tickets presume that the owner of the car is at fault, so I don't think catching actual drivers would be that much of an issue. as stated above, automated solutions have been used in the us and abroad (most noteably brazil where the draconian speed limit in conjuntion with automated ticketing has brought highway traffic down to an excessively slow pace).