Yet another Pitbull attack, this time pregnant woman dies.

[Brigandier]

:wub: What were we talking about?

 

[Drako]

Pretty damn sad.

The husband is probably going to have a pretty fucked up life now, but life lessons can sometimes be very brutal :'(

 

[NeoV]

so here we have a pit bull - owned by someone who belonged in one of these 'we love pit bulls' clubs - and it kills her - and she was pregnant no less

no we have to tolerate the people that will still defend the breed, blah blah blah

it's a terrible tragedy, but anyone who owns one of these monsters needs to understand they aren't safe, period

 

[Brigandier]

so here we have a pit bull - owned by someone who belonged in one of these 'we love pit bulls' clubs - and it kills her - and she was pregnant no less

no we have to tolerate the people that will still defend the breed, blah blah blah

it's a terrible tragedy, but anyone who owns one of these monsters needs to understand they aren't safe, period

Anyone that owns a medium to large sized dog should realize, that if improperly trained, they can maim or kill.

Those with small dogs, know it's not a baby, and that it can still maim.

 

[Paladin3]

The pro-pit bull crowd is circulating a story that the woman fell off a ladder and the nice dog was just trying to wake her up. Talk about grasping at straws.

http://www.examiner.com/american-pit-bull-in-national/pacifica-dog-mauling-what-really-happened-1

I really love the Internet, but giving every idiot a voice to spread their own wacky version of the news is a slight drawback.

 

[moshquerade]

this breed of dog scares me. my neighbor has a good sized pitbull. sometimes i will meet her walking the dog when i'm out for a run. luckily she has it on a leash, but as i go by the dog always growls/barks and lunges at me. : /

 

[Brigandier]

this breed of dog scares me. my neighbor has a good sized pitbull. sometimes i will meet her walking the dog when i'm out for a run. luckily she has it on a leash, but as i go by the dog always growls/barks and lunges at me. : /

You should tell her to learn how to control a dog.

The problem isn't bad dogs, it's humans that think they know how to take care of dogs.

 

[moshquerade]

You should tell her to learn how to control a dog.

The problem isn't bad dogs, it's humans that think they know how to take care of dogs.

yes, that's something i'm going to do. :\

she was controlling her dog. she scolds it and pulls back on it when it lunges. it does scare me that the leash could break or she could lose hold and the dog would attack me.

what should she do different to control the dog?

i doubt anything that is said will make some people realize that "good pitbulls" go bad and attack. how many times do we hear in these stories that the dog was gentle, never bit anyone, etc, and yet it just mortally wounded someone out of the blue? must be it's that the owners are bad... every single time.

 

[Brigandier]

yes, that's something i'm going to do. :\

she was controlling her dog. she scolds it and pulls back on it when it lunges. it does scare me that the leash could break or she could lose hold and the dog would attack me.

what should she do different to control the dog?

Stop it and have it meet you would be the best, but since it's in control I cannot really fault her. I've been growled at by many different types of dogs. If she lets it go in front of her, that's the first problem, the dog feels like it needs to deal with things first then.

I'm equally against all dogs, and treat any unknown dog to me with the same wariness. I've noticed pit-bull owners tend to be more energetic, and that helps to feed the dog's high-energy side. As a good owner of such a breed, you both have to be high-energy and high-discipline, sometimes a yank on the chain isn't enough to get the dog to realize it's being a shit, and you need to do more. It is up to the owner to realize this and take measures against it.

I'm wary of any medium to large dog, regardless of breed. I'm not wary with small dogs, because, well, I could kick them once and stop the fight if they chose to attack.

 

[moshquerade]

Stop it and have it meet you would be the best, but since it's in control I cannot really fault her. I've been growled at by many different types of dogs. If she lets it go in front of her, that's the first problem, the dog feels like it needs to deal with things first then.

I'm equally against all dogs, and treat any unknown dog to me with the same wariness. I've noticed pit-bull owners tend to be more energetic, and that helps to feed the dog's high-energy side. As a good owner of such a breed, you both have to be high-energy and high-discipline, sometimes a yank on the chain isn't enough to get the dog to realize it's being a shit, and you need to do more. It is up to the owner to realize this and take measures against it.

what more? what else should she do?

I'm wary of any medium to large dog, regardless of breed. I'm not wary with small dogs, because, well, I could kick them once and stop the fight if they chose to attack.

that's flat out b.s.

 

[Brigandier]

what more? what else should she do?

Stop the walk and show that you were granted a higher pack status than the dog, that takes cooperation from her and you though, so I don't think it's likely to happen.

Another thing more she could do is spend money on a dog trainer that will make sure the dog understands how it fits in the pack in the wider world. The problem is, dogs a territory creatures, and if the owner doesn't show the dog that this territory is not just the packs, the dog won't respect it. The owner needs to understand its dog wants to own everywhere it goes, and stop it, to show that the owner is the top, and the dog cannot make decisions on anything like that.

 

[BudAshes]

Unlike any other dog breed, aggressiveness towards humans was specifically bred out of them for many, many generations.

yes, they were bred to be companions, guard dogs, and fighting dogs, of course. but especially for those bred for fighting--human aggressiveness was the least desirable trait. Simply because ghetto trash has pushed the bell curve in an odd direction in recent years, it hasn't had such an influencing effect on the history of the breed.

it's how these dogs are being raised, now--not what is in their blood.

Problem is put bulls are terriers. If you ever had a terrier you would know they are fucking crazy, now imagine if your terrier weighed 80+ lbs and could bite through concrete? You might be ok 99% of the time but it only takes once for that dog to lose it's mind and for you to lose everything.

 

[moshquerade]

Stop the walk and show that you were granted a higher pack status than the dog, that takes cooperation from her and you though, so I don't think it's likely to happen.

Another thing more she could do is spend money on a dog trainer that will make sure the dog understands how it fits in the pack in the wider world. The problem is, dogs a territory creatures, and if the owner doesn't show the dog that this territory is not just the packs, the dog won't respect it. The owner needs to understand its dog wants to own everywhere it goes, and stop it, to show that the owner is the top, and the dog cannot make decisions on anything like that.

i never had to do this with my dog. must be this training only has to be done with certain breeds of dog.

 

[Brigandier]

i never had to do this with my dog. must be this training only has to be done with certain breeds of dog.

Some breeds seem to default to alpha faster than others, so I'd agree with you. I've always had good luck with bassets, and the other dog's I've owned have been mixed-breed. I've had several friends with pit/boxers and some of those dogs were ill-behaved, but I never feared for myself.

Maybe you should just take the stance of dominance, Mosh.

 

[Newbian]

Maybe you should just take the stance of dominance, Mosh.

When in doubt pee on it to show it who the master is.

 

[Loop2kil]

This was a 'related' story on that same page:

Holy WTF http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-newborn-pit-bull-attack,0,7316314.story

 

[moshquerade]

This was a 'related' story on that same page:

Holy WTF http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-newborn-pit-bull-attack,0,7316314.story

once again.... :\

The father said the family raised the pit bull since it was a puppy and that the dog never showed any signs of aggression toward anyone in their family.

 

[Newbian]

This was a 'related' story on that same page:

Holy WTF http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-newborn-pit-bull-attack,0,7316314.story

I preferred this one that was on the original link:

http://www.ktla.com/entertainment/photos/ktla-teachers-behaving-badly-pg,0,1463000.photogallery

Some of the female teachers are nice.

 

[Brigandier]

once again.... :\

That sucks, you don't let dogs around newborns without supervision.

So the ma was in the shower, the 4 day on the bed, and the dad, where? Smoking some pcp or what? The dog killed a kid, but it never should have been left alone with it, not to mention the 4 day old shouldn't have been left alone either.

Oh ya, it's in florida too, so take whatever those whackos say with a grain of salt

 

[BabaBooey]

A lady was chewed up pretty good from saving her 5 yr. old from being attacked and the owners were not charged........why....because their kid who is autistic or "special needs" let the dog out the door.....

 

[preCRT]

Not all breeds of dog should be pets just as not all breeds of felines should be pets.

Most folks wouldn't consider keeping a cougar or bobcat as a house pet, sure some may be tamed, but at heart they are killers. The same is true of canines like pitbulls.

 

[Brigandier]

Not all breeds of dog should be pets just as not all breeds of felines should be pets.

Most folks wouldn't consider keeping a cougar or bobcat as a house pet, sure some may be tamed, but at heart they are killers. The same is true of canines like pitbulls.

Not even close. Comparing a cougar or even a bobcat to a housecat is like comparing coyotes and wolves to normal dogs. Nice try though, what you should have said is "Most folks wouldn't consider keeping an animal, so most people shouldn't keep pets."

Frogs and hamsters exist for those that want pets but wouldn't keep an animal.

 

[Nintendesert]

It's time to ban all pit bulls and their mixes. Euthanize them all and make owning one a felony.

 

[preslove]

No they weren't.

For several hundreds of years American Bull Terriers were bred to not exhibit violence to humans. Only in recent decades were handfuls of them picked out for such aggressive traits. It's not really endemic to them at all. .

Has anybody know anything about the history of American dog fighting? Is it really a recent African American phenomenon, or do its roots extend before it? Did slave owners ever have dog fights?

 

[Brigandier]

Has anybody know anything about the history of American dog fighting? Is it really a recent African American phenomenon, or do its roots extend before it? Did slave owners ever have dog fights?

Animal fighting has always existed. It reached it's culmination with gladiators and has been on a slight decline since.

It's the excitement of fights, plus the allure of betting that will make it exist forevermore.