Yet Another Origin Sucks Thread

[nitromullet]

Origin as a client it fine IMO, but it needs to allow you to install games in multiple locations (i.e. BF4 on SSD, other games on HD) without making me manually create symlinks.

As for Uplay... I believe that once you've added a game to your Uplay account and you download it with Uplay the game no longer needs Steam even if you bought it through Steam.

As far as sales/pricing go, lately I have noticed that I almost always find the best price on greenmangaming.com. I just buy the game through GMG and activate it on Steam or Origin.

 

[Canbacon]

Origin as a client it fine IMO, but it needs to allow you to install games in multiple locations (i.e. BF4 on SSD, other games on HD) without making me manually create symlinks.

You can do that since before Steam implemented it; go to Origin -> Application settings -> Advanced

Change the "Downloaded Games" folder to the SSD folder of your choice then change it back to the HDD after the install.

The game will live there permanently and will update in that folder. However, if you uninstall you will need to change the setting back to the SSD folder when you want to install again.

If you have installed the game already, you can move/copy the folder from the HDD to the SSD then do a uninstall/install after changing the "Downloaded Games" link. It will stay it is downloading all the data again, but it should just do a file integrity check.

 

[nitromullet]

You can do that since before Steam implemented it; go to Origin -> Application settings -> Advanced

Change the "Downloaded Games" folder to the SSD folder of your choice then change it back to the HDD after the install.

The game will live there permanently and will update in that folder. However, if you uninstall you will need to change the setting back to the SSD folder when you want to install again.

If you have installed the game already, you can move/copy the folder from the HDD to the SSD then do a uninstall/install after changing the "Downloaded Games" link. It will stay it is downloading all the data again, but it should just do a file integrity check.

Ya know, I think this is actually how I ended up with BF4 on my SSD this time. I installed Origin on my SSD along with BF4, and then changed that setting to my HD.

 

[IVIX1]

+1 to the "won't bother, can't do it, know better-than to give even 1 penny to EA" crowd.

For why? "reasons"

There are more reasons for not bothering(touching an EA product) than there are for attempting a serious argument about how EA isnt the downfall of quality. Yet there still are so many opinions....:whiste:

 

[Lil Frier]

I'm not sure I get your statement.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

My issue is more about not supporting the vanity of every big developer needing to install their garbage software on my computer just so I can play their stupid game. I have pretty much gone into a soft boycott of the gaming world in general because of all the bullshit they are pulling on people year after year. I try to just buy used games now and avoid supporting any of these game companies until they pull their collective heads out of their asses.

Stop releasing the same game year after year, stop dumbing down all games, stop trying to milk me for hundreds of dollars for your game, stop forcing me to install your shit bloatware on my personally hand built PC just so you can advertise to me constantly.

Honestly, the more I think about it the more I feel like I should just stop buying new games, period. Origin is just a symptom of the problem.

If you work in this industry you are part of the problem, too.

 

[davie jambo]

My issue is more about not supporting the vanity of every big developer needing to install their garbage software on my computer just so I can play their stupid game. I have pretty much gone into a soft boycott of the gaming world in general because of all the bullshit they are pulling on people year after year. I try to just buy used games now and avoid supporting any of these game companies until they pull their collective heads out of their asses.

Stop releasing the same game year after year, stop dumbing down all games, stop trying to milk me for hundreds of dollars for your game, stop forcing me to install your shit bloatware on my personally hand built PC just so you can advertise to me constantly.

Honestly, the more I think about it the more I feel like I should just stop buying new games, period. Origin is just a symptom of the problem.

If you work in this industry you are part of the problem, too.

Well if you want to play games on your PC then your going to have to have a number of clients installed , so either give up or deal with it

Not sure where you are getting "bloatware" from as none of them could be considered that

 

[Anteaus]

There are two simple truths that need to be observed. First, digital distribution is the future and there is no avoiding it. If a gamer wants access to all of the latest games, then juggling multiple clients is required. A gamer can choose to only use one client (i.e. Steam), but the opportunity cost is that they won't get access to every game. Second, developers are now and have always been about making money. The bottom line is that the developer behavior described in this thread only exists because the gaming community as a whole supports it. I don't, but I'm not going to pretend that it's somehow all the developer's fault. They are dealing with the realities of the market, and the reality is that, at least for now, gamers spend billions of dollars on the very games being complained about.

The problem I've had with gaming in the last 10 years is a shift from being a hobby to an entitlement. Participation is completely optional, yet many people whine about it constantly. The fanbase has become increasingly volatile and opinionated on the most trivial things. I don't believe everyone feels that way, but for many it has devolved into fetish and obsession, with fans as polorized as political parties.

For example, mention EA to some people and they show signs of PTSD, as if EA sent someone to their house and beat their dog. For these people, EA has lost the right to exist and as such nothing they do will ever be ok. In this case, these are the people whose opinions should be valued the least because they are biased to the point of OCD. There are numerous examples of this mentality littered through these forums over numerous topics.

It's to those people that I offer my last bit of advice. If you are a gamer who feels measurable rage or negative emotion toward anything related to gaming, whether it be a developer or gamers, then I would suggest that you have lost the whole point. Gaming is no different a hobby than flying model airplanes or painting. The point is to spend time doing something fun, yet not be an impediment on life.

Basically, just take it as it is or don't take it at all.

 

[clok1966]

the Origin defenders, or the "gabe does no wrong people, who just skip the threads with ACTUAL reasons why EA is bad and just say its video game hate.. lets go to facts.

BBB:
EA: 2441 complaints closed with BBB in last 3 years | 770 closed in last 12 months (this does not include SWOnline which has its own set, and was one of the first games to start ORIGIN)

VALVE:650 complaints closed with BBB in last 3 years | 256 closed in last 12 months

now please take this in perspective, Valve (steam) has 2,890 some (in july of this year) EA has quite a few less, as i cant find a number on the net, but some looking it seems to be quite an order less.. yet more complaints?

How many times has EA been voted worst company in america by FORBES? 2X
How many has VALVE: ZERO, its never be nominated or even in the running. in fact I dont think any video game company has been.

People don't hate for years just for the fun of it.. most are so fickle they hate EA today, hate Valve tomorrow, hate Activision the next day.. face it hating popular is trendy right now.. But those people are so stupid and silly , they dont stick with one thing.. the hate for EA is not subsiding, but growing (if you take new threads like this, the most hated companies vote numbers (it went up for EA over the last time).

Honestly do i think its blow out of proportion, some, no doubt.. but as i said earlier. 100's of games on Valve, 3-4 problems.. 4 on Origin.. 2 problems.. that PURE numbers there.. But that doesn't even bother me much. again as stated earlier

SIM CITY- proven it needs no permanent online to play, yet EA still sticks to "has to be" when any reasonable company would have went to a weekly check or something like that.. especially with the bad publicity it was generating.. EVEN Microsoft has the good sense to back up and re-evaluate when the public says no more. But they just said, even after you proved we are lieing, f-U its staying.

Dead Space 3- full price game with enough microtransaction built in to buy 3 more full priced games.. that one can go either way.. me Im for the good old days when I paid Full price I got the whole game (40-60 hours) not 10-12 with the option to play another 2-3 for $100 bucks more. this last one can go into opinion area..

and for those who say "just dont buy" I dont, but I did try it, yes, with bad attitude going in (westwood, bullfrog, all gone because of EA).. but the problems, and micro transactions did the rest.

 

[Red Storm]

Gaming is no different a hobby than flying model airplanes or painting. The point is to spend time doing something fun, yet not be an impediment on life.

Well, that's the problem. Origin turned my hobby into something not fun. I've never run into an issue with Steam that I wasn't able to fix myself, not once, and I have a large library of games. In contrast, I only have 3 games on Origin.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

juggling multiple clients is required.

Patently false. I can live just fine without having every game if it means I don't have to install your garbage adware, which is all these things really are, on my computer.

Well if you want to play games on your PC then your going to have to have a number of clients installed , so either give up or deal with it

Not sure where you are getting "bloatware" from as none of them could be considered that

I will just not buy games from these companies that require additional bloatware.

Extra, useless software on your computer is bloatware. That description fits a number of these softwares.

 

[Anteaus]

Patently false. I can live just fine without having every game if it means I don't have to install your garbage adware, which is all these things really are, on my computer.

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"If a gamer wants access to all of the latest games, then juggling multiple clients is required."

The least you can do is use the whole quote. What I said is patently truth. If someone wants access to every game being released today, then multiple clients are required. In your case you don't need access to every game, therefore you do not need to use multiple clients. We both have the exact same opinion, yet you made me look the opposite. You'd make a great politician.

 

[Raduque]

SIM CITY- proven it needs no permanent online to play, yet EA still sticks to "has to be" when any reasonable company would have went to a weekly check or something like that.. especially with the bad publicity it was generating.. EVEN Microsoft has the good sense to back up and re-evaluate when the public says no more. But they just said, even after you proved we are lieing, f-U its staying.

You do know the "always connected" requirements for Sim City are being patched out, right?

 

[Fire&Blood]

Tried to buy FIFA 14 last week, but Origin couldn't validate any of my 4 payment methods, including Paypal.

At least you won't have to worry about payment issues for the World Cup DLC since it's not coming to PC anyway, the 2 last gen consoles get it. EA strikes again.

 

[sxr7171]

I've got Crysis, Warhead and Crysis 2 Maximum Edition on Steam. Crysis 3 on Origin.

Here's something weird. I've got Alice: Madness Returns on Steam (bought it there on sale) and when I log into origin, it's there. I can install and play it through Origin, or I can install and play it through Steam. I don't know how they pulled that info from Steam, cause I never put my EA login into A:MR at any time.

I don't mind Origin. I'm even alright with only being able to get EA games through it.

The one that really baffles me on why it exists is UPlay. Their games are available in Steam, so why do they need a storefront? Furthermore, why do I need to login to UPlay to play the games, considering when I launch the game from Uplay, it launches Steam to run the game! Just baffling. Same with R* Social club, and GFWL which thankfully is gone.

I bought A:MR on steam. It does ask you to enter your EA info on first launch.

 

[sxr7171]

I have steam origin and uplay. Steam is my primary. I use origin for those games that are exclusive to it. Like Crysis 3. I've never bought a game on uplay. It simply loads up for AC4. Total waste of resources.

EA sucks in many ways. However origin itself has been fixed. The log in info stays in memory. It's been trouble free and not a problem to worry about. Now the BF4 browser launch thing is dumb but it applies only to that game and is not an origin issue it's an EA issue.

I think many have transferred their hate of EA to origin. Would I prefer a world where all EA games are on steam? Of course. But EA does as it wants. And honestly its client could be far worse.

If you want to see something that totally sucks look at GFWL - typical MS garbage. And rockstar social club is another abomination.

 

[Red Storm]

Just wanted to update this thread and say that to this day I cannot use any payment methods with anything tied to EA. I can't buy games from Origin, I can't subscribe to any MMOs like The Old Republic, nothing. Customer Support blames it on my bank, but there are no holds/restrictions on anything and I have no problems with Steam, Amazon, iTunes, etc. Just Origin/EA.

On the bright side, of all the companies/services I would prefer this to happen to, it would be EA.