Yet another negative from illegal crimmigrants

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http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me...5645224.story?coll=la-default-underdog
A little-known but potentially deadly parasite from Latin America has become one of the latest threats to the blood and organ supplies in the United States, especially in Los Angeles, where many donors have traveled to affected countries, health officials say.

Last year, two heart transplant patients at different Los Angeles hospitals contracted the parasitic disease, called Chagas, causing health authorities to issue a national bulletin. Within months, both patients subsequently died, although not directly from Chagas, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The parasite, which is generally passed to humans from a blood-sucking insect that looks like a striped cockroach, can feed over years on tissues of the heart and gastrointestinal tract. After decades, tissues can be eroded so much that the organs fail.

Insect transmission of the parasite in the United States is rare, but public health and blood bank officials have been concerned about its increasing prevalence in the blood supply.

In 1996, using an experimental test, the American Red Cross found that one in 9,850 blood donors in the L.A. area tested positive for the parasite, Trypanosoma cruzi. Two years later, it was one in every 5,400. By 2006, a more refined test detected the parasite in one in 3,800 donors. About 10% to 30% of infected people develop symptoms of chronic disease, experts say.

By contrast, HIV, which blood banks screen for, shows up in one of every 30,000 donors, said Susan Stramer, executive scientific officer for the Red Cross.

If caught early, strong anti-protozoal drugs such as nifurtimox can bring the parasite to undetectable levels or, in some cases, eliminate it entirely.

If the parasite is given the chance to multiply over years or decades, however, those infected may have to be treated with heart-regulating drugs or get a pacemaker or heart transplant.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved a test suitable for widespread screening in December. Blood banks have now begun systematically checking their supplies for the Chagas parasite.

By late January, the American Red Cross and Phoenix-based Blood Systems, which collect about 65% of the U.S. blood supply, had started screening blood for T. cruzi. Other banks, including the Blood Bank of San Bernardino and Riverside Counties, have no immediate plans for screening but are monitoring test results from banks that are using the test. In late February, the CDC reported that the "FDA is expected to recommend implementation of the test by all blood-collection establishments."

No organ donors in the United States are now being screened for the parasite, although the organ procurement agency that covers much of Southern California plans to begin testing some donors in mid-April. At first, the screening will be focused on people who have lived in or traveled to rural parts of Latin America, said Thomas Mone, chief executive of the agency, OneLegacy.

In Latin America, about 10 million to 12 million people are believed to be infected with the Chagas parasite. As many as 1 million of them are expected to die from the disease unless there are advances in treatment, according to Dr. James Maguire, a University of Maryland expert on the disease.

"Chagas is very, very prevalent in South and Central America," said Marek Nowicki, a USC blood-disease expert who studied the effect of Chagas on the Southern California organ supply with the National Institute of Transplantation.

"The number of [immigrant] Latinos in Southern California, Texas and other parts of the United States are growing, but especially in L.A., a large proportion of organ donors are Latino," Nowicki said. "They're basically bringing with them the disease prevalence in the area they used to live."

The problem is not limited to immigrants. Tourists, too, can be carriers. The heart transplant cases in Los Angeles last year illustrate the problem.

One donor was a native of El Salvador living in Los Angeles, and the other was born in the U.S. but had traveled to Guadalajara, Mexico, where T. cruzi is endemic.

Richard Edward Russo, then 73, received the heart from the Salvadoran native. The Burbank retiree appeared to be recovering nicely last year when, several weeks after his transplant at St. Vincent Medical Center in Los Angeles, he developed a fever and a rash. He complained of being tired and couldn't eat or walk.

About the same time, a 64-year-old man developed similar symptoms after receiving a transplant at UCLA Medical Center. He had received the heart from the American tourist.

At both hospitals, doctors submitted the patients to a battery of tests, concluding separately that they had Chagas.

The CDC sent anti-parasitic medication out from Atlanta. The drug reduced the parasite in the blood of both men to undetectable levels. But Russo never got better, his wife, Carolyn, said. He suffered from other hospital-acquired infections and had pneumonia at least twice.

"It just went downhill," she said. Russo died in June 2006.

As a result of the cases, the CDC last summer warned doctors that the prevalence of infection might be higher than previously thought, especially in areas like Los Angeles County.

Chagas is a clear reminder that "diseases don't have geographic borders anymore," said Dr. Suman Radhakrishna, an infectious diseases expert in Los Angeles who helped treat Russo. Doctors need to be "cognizant that diseases happening elsewhere in the world can happen in our backyard too."

Another disease, cysticercosis, caused by tapeworm larvae, is believed to cause as many as 10% of the seizures reported to large urban emergency rooms in California and New Mexico. Dr. Ashok Jain, a USC emergency room doctor, said the figure may be as high as 20% at Los Angeles County USC Medical Center.

It is spread through ingestion, not the blood or organ supply.

"When I was in Cook County in Chicago, I didn't even know it existed," said Jain, an associate professor of clinical emergency medicine at USC. "Then I came to L.A. County ? and oh, God, there were so many cases."

Diseases like Chagas and cysticercosis have emerged as an issue for some opponents of illegal immigration, who argue that exotic diseases are often spread by illegal immigrants.

"Curbing illegal entry will diminish the problem of exposure to such diseases because legal immigrants are medically screened to protect the U.S. public," said Jack Martin, special projects director for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, an immigration control group..

Public health officials say the migration of diseases has always been an issue ? and is especially so today, in an increasingly mobile world with a global economy. Many urge caution, not alarm.

"I don't want people to overreact, but I don't want people to ignore it," said Victor Tsang, chief of the immunochemistry lab at the CDC's Division of Parasitic Diseases. "The more we pay attention to it, the better off we are."

Damn if it isn't one thing it's another!
 

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Originally posted by: George P Burdell
So if legal immigrants pass the parasite onto others, you have no problems, right?

I can see the bias in the OP's post, but do are you just racking on him or do you not care about illegal immigration? Just asking; it's hard to tell your tone.
 

Wheezer

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
They also bring TB and other communicable diseases to the country...and spread it around...

http://www.businessword.com/index.php/weblog/comments/1598/
http://www.theamericanresistance.com/articles/art2005spring.html
http://www.americandaily.com/article/7751
http://www.newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frosty65.htm

But hey...American Business needs the cheap labor, and since they don't pay the health care costs of these people, (or the ones they infect) it's all good...

that last statement has always perplexed me. It makes no sense.

So lets say that all businesses in the US stop hiring illegals. There are absolutely no company anywhere in the US that will hire an illegal immigrant.

do you really think that it will stifle the flow of illegals into this country?


I don't think so...because even if they have no job when they get here...their life is a considerable upgrade from where they are in Mexico.

Nothing in this country is better than nothing in Mexico. That is why we need a wall the length of our southern border.

Damming the flow is the only way to stop it.

I would rather pay $5.00 for a head of lettuce rather than foot the bill of some illegal Mexican getting into this country and getting ill going to the hospital, having a baby, or getting injured in the commission of a crime and before he or she is carted off to jail they get medical attention. All on my dime. At least that $5.00 head of lettuce is going for something I feel worthwhile...me and my family.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: Wheezer
I would rather pay $5.00 for a head of lettuce rather than foot the bill of some illegal Mexican getting into this country and getting ill going to the hospital, having a baby, or getting injured in the commission of a crime and before he or she is carted off to jail they get medical attention.

I agree completely.

I honestly don't think that there's any way to stop them without shooting. I mean, I think we should have been doing that all along, but I haven't heard of a peaceful solution that I can see working.
 

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simple fact is the republicans usually support big business. The democrats support the immigrants for an unknown reason.

simple fact is illegal immigration is illegal. It should not be allowed or tolerated. If america wishes to provide cheap labor by flooding the market then increasing the quota of working immigrants is fine however the law is made to be enforced. An unenforced law only shows the weakness of the goverment. It is find however to repeal or change any existing quota.

The immigrants DO take jobs from american citizens. People say that nobody will work these crappy jobs. that is untrue. If dishwashers made $100,000 people would flock to the job. Simple face is people won't work as a dishwasher for $2 an hour. People won't work that job AT THAT PRICE! There is in fact a large difference.

Immigrants who immigrate illegally also don't have to go through the battery of backround checks and tests that legal ones do.

Illegal Immigrants are in fact illegal and in my opinion because they are not citizens they do not deserve the same rights that american citizens enjoy. We enjoy them for a price as in taxes etc.

EX. In one county close to mine there was a flood and 1/3 of the kindergartdeners in the schools dissapeared. Guess what the people who weren't illegal were getting aid from the goverment and the illegals did not so therefore they left when their property was destroyed. The school now asks people to prove their citizenship but they got sued for it because of privacy etc and now they cannot, they simply must accept them. Honestly, that is bullshit. Schools are not to aid illegals, they are to aid the citizens. Illegals have no right to enjoy anything that proper citizens do. Proof of american citizenship is not a denial of your rights or an invasion of privacy because of the prevalence of this problem.

Simply we must find a way to eliminate the immigrants, I think people will be surprised how many their are. After school hours I bet atleast 3/4 of the people working as janitors at our school are illegal.

edit: if the military and national guard need to be sent in to patrol the border and kill onsite then it is not unreasonable given the current situation.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: Praxis1452
Simply we must find a way to eliminate the immigrants, I think people will be surprised how many their are. After school hours I bet atleast 3/4 of the people working as janitors at our school are illegal.

edit: if the military and national guard need to be sent in to patrol the border and kill onsite then it is not unreasonable given the current situation.

Defending America is not PC. We should just hand the country over to them and the lazy-asses who just take free rides. The government needs to do something. Now.
 

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Originally posted by: Wheezer
Originally posted by: BoomerD
They also bring TB and other communicable diseases to the country...and spread it around...

http://www.businessword.com/index.php/weblog/comments/1598/
http://www.theamericanresistance.com/articles/art2005spring.html
http://www.americandaily.com/article/7751
http://www.newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frosty65.htm

But hey...American Business needs the cheap labor, and since they don't pay the health care costs of these people, (or the ones they infect) it's all good...

that last statement has always perplexed me. It makes no sense.

So lets say that all businesses in the US stop hiring illegals. There are absolutely no company anywhere in the US that will hire an illegal immigrant.

do you really think that it will stifle the flow of illegals into this country?


I don't think so...because even if they have no job when they get here...their life is a considerable upgrade from where they are in Mexico.

Nothing in this country is better than nothing in Mexico. That is why we need a wall the length of our southern border.

Damming the flow is the only way to stop it.

I would rather pay $5.00 for a head of lettuce rather than foot the bill of some illegal Mexican getting into this country and getting ill going to the hospital, having a baby, or getting injured in the commission of a crime and before he or she is carted off to jail they get medical attention. All on my dime. At least that $5.00 head of lettuce is going for something I feel worthwhile...me and my family.



Whizzer, check the batteries in your sarcasm meter...
Personally, I'd support rounding them ALL up and sending them back...
 

Goosemaster

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*emotes in an unintellectual manner*

The country needs cheap labor.
Poor immigrants from our south need money.
The US puts up with lax security, letting so many sneak in and then proceeds to bitch about "them."
Then lawmakers proceed to bitch even more, and then proceed to start chasing them around inside, having "raids" and such.
Then they proceed to try to lock some of them out, even those who are legit.

Kind of sad really how screwed up everything is sometimes.
If only we had a good system in place:

where people could come to work here legally, many of which in fact DO NOT want to make this place their home, face a battery of rules and tests on their way in, and be forced to agree to pay taxes...


..all the while proudly protecting our tradition of welcoming immigration to those who wish to live here.

Instead we have this mess, where people like my parents had to sneak in to escape a war that we kind of maybe instigated, lumped in together with ciminals and those who want to take advantage of our nation.

Illegal immigration isn't the problem.
It's the fact that the people running the show are idiots that's the problem.


My sarcasm meter is on the fritz by the way...



P.s.

<--pissed off that apples are $1/each right now
 

michaels

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I will. Why are you so defensive over ILLEGAL immigration? Ahh nevermind, I see you must be Hispanic. My problem isn't the fact that they are Hispanic, my step-sisters are 1/2 Mexican, it's the fact they are illegally here. I would not care if 6 foot, built like a ****** house Blondes were illegally crossing..I would want it stopped and in check.
 

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
*emotes in an unintellectual manner*

The country needs cheap labor.
Poor immigrants from our south need money.
The US puts up with lax security, letting so many sneak in and then proceeds to bitch about "them."
Then lawmakers proceed to bitch even more, and then proceed to start chasing them around inside, having "raids" and such.
Then they proceed to try to lock some of them out, even those who are legit.

Kind of sad really how screwed up everything is sometimes.
If only we had a good system in place:

where people could come to work here legally, many of which in fact DO NOT want to make this place their home, face a battery of rules and tests on their way in, and be forced to agree to pay taxes...


..all the while proudly protecting our tradition of welcoming immigration to those who wish to live here.

Instead we have this mess, where people like my parents had to sneak in to escape a war that we kind of maybe instigated, lumped in together with ciminals and those who want to take advantage of our nation.

Illegal immigration isn't the problem.
It's the fact that the people running the show are idiots that's the problem.


My sarcasm meter is on the fritz by the way...



P.s.

<--pissed off that apples are $1/each right now
The country should not need labor cheaper than minimum wage. Hell minimum wage isn't even a living wage for most areas and you know it. If companies can't survive without paying people cheaper than minimum wage than they need to die(bankrupt). If you can't compete then they should not be allowed to exist. Why are we support such weak companies? BEcause they aren't even weak. They are the mega-corporations ie. walmart, who have the market power to influence our politicians along with the bleeding hearts who love people no matter what.

The US does have lax security so it's something we need to fix. Letting so many sneak in is right. However that's why we need to change it.

The goverment isn't doing enough because it's a 2 party system and things always get done slower. Things get deadlocked. Not that I'm advocating a 1 party system but youy have to realize it all comes with a representative democracy. It comes with bureacracy and it's why bueracracy needs to change.

it's easy to blame the politicians when in fact it can be the flawed system itself.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
It's the fact that the people running the show are idiots that's the problem.

That's the truth. We need a well-defended border. I don't care who is trying to cross it, we should have the ability to stop them.

 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: sierrita
Originally posted by: michaels
It's the truth.

Tell that to a Native American.

I have LOTS of relatives on Sioux reservations in the mid-west...they think EVERYONE is an illegal immigrant!
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: Praxis1452
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
*emotes in an unintellectual manner*

The country needs cheap labor.
Poor immigrants from our south need money.
The US puts up with lax security, letting so many sneak in and then proceeds to bitch about "them."
Then lawmakers proceed to bitch even more, and then proceed to start chasing them around inside, having "raids" and such.
Then they proceed to try to lock some of them out, even those who are legit.

Kind of sad really how screwed up everything is sometimes.
If only we had a good system in place:

where people could come to work here legally, many of which in fact DO NOT want to make this place their home, face a battery of rules and tests on their way in, and be forced to agree to pay taxes...


..all the while proudly protecting our tradition of welcoming immigration to those who wish to live here.

Instead we have this mess, where people like my parents had to sneak in to escape a war that we kind of maybe instigated, lumped in together with ciminals and those who want to take advantage of our nation.

Illegal immigration isn't the problem.
It's the fact that the people running the show are idiots that's the problem.


My sarcasm meter is on the fritz by the way...



P.s.

<--pissed off that apples are $1/each right now
The country should not need labor cheaper than minimum wage. Hell minimum wage isn't even a living wage for most areas and you know it. If companies can't survive without paying people cheaper than minimum wage than they need to die(bankrupt). If you can't compete then they should not be allowed to exist. Why are we support such weak companies? BEcause they aren't even weak. They are the mega-corporations ie. walmart, who have the market power to influence our politicians along with the bleeding hearts who love people no matter what.

The US does have lax security so it's something we need to fix. Letting so many sneak in is right. However that's why we need to change it.

The goverment isn't doing enough because it's a 2 party system and things always get done slower. Things get deadlocked. Not that I'm advocating a 1 party system but youy have to realize it all comes with a representative democracy. It comes with bureacracy and it's why bueracracy needs to change.

it's easy to blame the politicians when in fact it can be the flawed system itself.

true.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
It's the fact that the people running the show are idiots that's the problem.

That's the truth. We need a well-defended border. I don't care who is trying to cross it, we should have the ability to stop them.

I would word it differently.

We should have the ability to welcome them in on a red carpet if they agree to help make this country better or jsut want to work here, along as they follow the rules.
 

Ronstang

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
btw calling them illegal crimmigrants and posting articles like that is is just petty.

It is not petty at all. It is the truth. They are ILLEGAL. The first thing they did when they stepped on the ground in this country is break it's laws and they continue to break it's laws on a daily basis. Your just pissed at all the talk because your dad stole his way into this country and citizenship.