Yes U.S. tax-payers are Israel's b1tch !

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Zebo

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WMD'S are almost a 100% deterrence to wars.

Correction: ICBM'S are almost a 100% deterrence to conventional wars. There's always low level stuff like violent terror by certain *groups* and economic terror. The only other choice is a full blown escalation and finally total meltdown into WMD area. The main idea is you must be able to hit the enemy in his population centers. Hitlers WMD's did him no good, so he did'nt use them since it would have been killing half his troops along with allied forces..then the payback would be hell for all germans with no loses on american soil...always remember troops are expendable..the elite who plan and finance the wars are not. In some repects Kennedy was the most dangerous president ever with the cuban missle crisis..his bet paid off..but if it had'nt good bye world.
 

MisterMe

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Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch
Those figures are warped to represent a point of view, the reality is we don't know how much the alternative would cost.. The actual aid provided to Israel over a 30 year period amounts to $50 per person, per year, how much is it worth to have a staunch ally in a volatile part of the world ? It would be volatile whether Israel was there or not, look at the Iran-Iraq war or Lebanon, as examples.

Isn't the main reason it's volatile the mere fact that Israel exists? We wouldn't need this "ally" if the time machine just got rewound by 50 years or so - about the time the jews took over in former Palestine. Land grab wars will happen, it's exacerbated when one party is jew and the other arab. What if at that time we had allied with the arabs? One of the main reasons the middle east hates us is because we support the jews. If there were no support for the jews then I can only imagine things like 911 wouldn't happen...
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Drift3r

Other US help includes:

? US Jewish charities and organizations have remitted grants or bought Israel bonds worth $50 billion to $60 billion. Though private in origin, the money is "a net drain" on the United States economy, says Stauffer.
WTF? Private people can give money wherever the hell they want to.
? The US has already guaranteed $10 billion in commercial loans to Israel, and $600 million in "housing loans." (See editor's note below.) Stauffer expects the US Treasury to cover these.
Israel has never defaulted on their loan guarantees.
? The US has given $2.5 billion to support Israel's Lavi fighter and Arrow missile projects.
Again, more misinformation. Those were joint projects between the US and Israel. Not like the US donated money for Israel's private projects.
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? Israel buys discounted, serviceable "excess" US military equipment. Stauffer says these discounts amount to "several billion dollars" over recent years.
Yeah, so does half the world.
? Israel uses roughly 40 percent of its $1.8 billion per year in military aid, ostensibly earmarked for purchase of US weapons, to buy Israeli-made hardware. It also has won the right to require the Defense Department or US defense contractors to buy Israeli-made equipment or subsystems, paying 50 to 60 cents on every defense dollar the US gives to Israel.
The US wants to buy The Israeli systems, because they are the best in the world. Do you really think the US would restrict itself like that unless they wanted to?
US help, financial and technical, has enabled Israel to become a major weapons supplier. Weapons make up almost half of Israel's manufactured exports. US defense contractors often resent the buy-Israel requirements and the extra competition subsidized by US taxpayers.
That may be the first legit point he made. But what he overlooks is the REASON why people prefer the Israeli-made arms. In many cases, they are better. So they don't like the competition? Make better weapons, and people will buy yours. It's called capitalism.
? US policy and trade sanctions reduce US exports to the Middle East about $5 billion a year, costing 70,000 or so American jobs, Stauffer estimates. Not requiring Israel to use its US aid to buy American goods, as is usual in foreign aid, costs another 125,000 jobs.
Dumbest point yet. Israel has a population of about the size of NYC. Do you really think that it would make the slightest dent?
? Israel has blocked some major US arms sales, such as F-15 fighter aircraft to Saudi Arabia in the mid-1980s. That cost $40 billion over 10 years, says Stauffer.
Yeah, maybe the Saudis could have driven their F-15's into the towers instead of hijacking airliners. I'm sure the US does not regret not selling the fighters to Bin Lad- ooops, I mean the Saudis.

As far as I'm concerned, Stauffer can stauff it where the sun don't shine.
 
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Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Zebo
If it's any consolation I think American Jews pay more taxes per capita than any other demographic. So look at it that way.


Are you HIGH?

So, America charges more taxes BASED ON RACE? :disgust:

no, on income, and since the jews control the world, they are in a damn high tax bracket..donchya know?

maybe you should complain about the US paying egypt nearly as much as israel. a payment of billions a year to keep them from starting wars.....nice huh?

Dahems an R little slow ya know?

Thats right.. Average income for american jew is above 78K while american is 38K thus more paid in taxes.

That's very intersting. Got a link for that? Would be interesting to read about all of the demographics. I've actually heard that Indians (from India) were the highest earning demographic. Perhaps they didn't count Jewish as one of the demographics though.
 

UCSDHappyAsian

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yep yep the US is just too generous to help them... at least one terriost attack every month, and everytime when our government is asking them to do something, Israel just love to say no to it. when help them? it has to do with the fact that politicians need businessmen, rich man can donate some money to some policitians and pass the act and guess wut, taxpayers are responsible for them...
worst part is, a few million to a few billion..
in order for those politicians to obtain a few more millions, Americans taxpayers may have to spend a few billions.

it happens to often and i dont evev care now