Yes, Plasma is superior

[JackBurton]

I have a big room. When I talk about noise, I'm talking about 70-80" displays.

So what 70"-80" plasma did you have that made fan noise?

I have a 60" plasma with ZERO fan noise.

 

[soulcougher73]

You'll have to pry my KRP-500M calibrated by D-Nice from my cold dead hands

 

[Anubis]

So what 70"-80" plasma did you have that made fan noise?

I have a 60" plasma with ZERO fan noise.

the only plasmas larger then 70 inches that i know of are made by panasonic pro line. the TH-85PF12U and the TH-85VX200U, they both had a few models preceding them but they are rare and stupidly expensive.

 

[JackBurton]

the only plasmas larger then 70 inches that i know of are made by panasonic pro line. the TH-85PF12U and the TH-85VX200U, they both had a few models preceding them but they are rare and stupidly expensive.

Exactly, that is why I asked the question. Fan noise is complete BS, and I know he didn't have a 70"+ plasma to begin with. Just more plasma FUD. If you are hearing fan noise, you either have a bad plasma or your plasma doesn't have enough ventilation as a result the fans spin at high speeds to get rid of the heat.

As far as heat, yes they do generate quite a bit of heat and the bigger you go, the more heat will be produced. The new plasmas though do a better job and don't produce as much heat. However, I'm sure the 85" Panasonic plasma generates a large amount of heat and their 150" plasma must be like a freakin' wall of fire. Whatever room that plasma is installed in, it better have it's own thermostat to control the temperature.

 

[KentState]

I'm still amazed at how great the VT30 I have is compared to my prior tv. Haven't seen anything else in person that looks better since it's been calibrated. I'm also a fan of 3D and have been watching everything including kids movies.

 

[exdeath]

To each his own. For a dedicated viewing room, a projector is great. In a living room setup, I'd take a flat panel over a projector any day of the week.

And I normally have the opposite reaction. When I go to the theaters (which is RARE), I'm like "meh, I have better PQ at home." Quality over quantity for me.

You have not seen quality if you haven't seen a properly set up and calibrated modern home theater projector in a light controlled room. And I'm talking being picky, such as dropping the projector down with a mount extension to minimize lens shift and prevent chroma aberration, etc. Most think projectors as a crappy conference room projector on a bookshelf pointed at a bare painted wall.

Its not just the size. Wall-E on a AE4000 will floor your jaw and slice your eyeballs open with candy coated razor blades and leave you pissing rainbows.

 

[JackBurton]

You have not seen quality if you haven't seen a properly set up and calibrated modern home theater projector in a light controlled room. And I'm talking being picky, such as dropping the projector down with a mount extension to minimize lens shift and prevent chroma aberration, etc. Most think projectors as a crappy conference room projector on a bookshelf pointed at a bare painted wall.

Its not just the size. Wall-E on a AE4000 will floor your jaw and slice your eyeballs open with candy coated razor blades and leave you pissing rainbows.

You haven't seen quality until you've seen a Pioneer Elite 09FD BD player playing the Avatar BD on a ISF calibrated Pioneer Elite 141FD. You can go bigger, but you ain't getting better.

 

[The-Noid]

You haven't seen quality until you've seen a Pioneer Elite 09FD BD player playing the Avatar BD on a ISF calibrated Pioneer Elite 141FD. You can go bigger, but you ain't getting better.

I still have two last model kuros. One in my wife's tv room 60" and our bedroom 50". No better TV yet .

 

[JackBurton]

I still have two last model kuros. One in my wife's tv room 60" and our bedroom 50". No better TV yet .

Yep. I have the 141FD in the living room and the 111FD in my other room. Love both of them and wouldn't trade them for anything out there. And I bought them in 2008 and early 2009. Hell of a future proof investment.

 

[Sephire]

Too bad I missed out on the Kuro's. Plasma sets definitely got a leg up on overall PQ but I think only home theater nerds make a big deal out of it.

 

[beginner99]

Too bad I missed out on the Kuro's. Plasma sets definitely got a leg up on overall PQ but I think only home theater nerds make a big deal out of it.

Very true. I'm fine with my lcd. You just have to turn off all that "image enhancing" stuff that actually makes the image look like a cheap soap opera. Don't know a better way to describe it.

 

[BurnItDwn]

I still think CRT looks the best, but I couldn't justify the size of a good CRT projector... nor did I want to deal with the costs/electricity usage.

1080p DLP projector works well for my use... (I'm not sensitive enough to notice any rainbow effect with my Mitsu 3800.) I do wish projectors with an auto-iris were a lot cheaper or proper LED projectors were available and affordable (as in, each individual pixel is isolated to have it's own light source .... meaning true 0 black levels and multimillion contrast ratios)

 

[JackBurton]

Too bad I missed out on the Kuro's. Plasma sets definitely got a leg up on overall PQ but I think only home theater nerds make a big deal out of it.

You're right, the experts\enthusiast make a big deal about the Pioneer Kuro's since it is THE reference flat panel all others are measure against. The average Joe on the other hand would be impressed with a big Vizio TV and a sweet Bose system. But that doesn't really say much. Ignorance is bliss for most consumers.

As for plasma vs LCD, the Sharp Elite LCD has taken the top spot...well, almost. Once Sharp issues a firmware update to fix the cyan issue (should be here in a couple of weeks), it should solidify it's ranking of top flat panel. You gotta pay to play though. Cutting edge technology doesn't come cheap.

 

[Exterous]

You're right, the experts\enthusiast make a big deal about the Pioneer Kuro's since it is THE reference flat panel all others are measure against. The average Joe on the other hand would be impressed with a big Vizio TV and a sweet Bose system. But that doesn't really say much. Ignorance is bliss for most consumers.

I think its more than just ignorance - I think theres also an issue of 'good enough'. That 50" TV might not be the best but its good enough because its larger than the 42" I am replacing. The $500 TV is good enough because its $500

Of course it doesn't help when manufacturers play marketing games - TVs with 2trillion:1 contrast ratios etc