yes!!! p4EE for $1000... :|

[jjyiz28]

xbitlabs

thats just insane. not competetivily priced at all against fx51

 

[bgeh]

not competetivily priced at all against fx51

umm, isn't that what intel does all the time?
amd always prices them lower than intel's offerings until recently

 

[snyderjw]

This is only part of my issue with the EE, and intel in general of late. The point was not to sell processors. Please quote me on this and rub it in my face if i'm wrong, but I'll put 5 to 1 that two years from now, the EE is in the top 10 hardest to find Intel processors ever (steppings included). Yes I know about the itanium and I remember the pentium pro... BUT:

1.) This chip is not designed to sell, the price is high, and at $1000, it's even higher than the price point at which they're selling the same chip as a Xeon (granted, there's a higher bus speed on the EE, but that's just a matter of reducing the multiplier.)

2.) This chip DOES NOT EXIST and was given a paper launch and shipped to major entusiast sites for benchmarking coveniently on the same day as the Athlon 64.

The EE is not meant to sell, it is meant to keep Athlon 64 chips from selling. Of course it's priced high, why take a loss on what you could sell as a Xeon when an imaginary chip could still accomplish the same goal?

Whoever had this idea deserves a HUGE raise, because it did keep most sites from saying TOO many good things about the Athlon 64 on it's launch day, but in reality the EE has been nothing more than a FUD campaign from the beginning.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: snyderjw
This is only part of my issue with the EE, and intel in general of late. The point was not to sell processors. Please quote me on this and rub it in my face if i'm wrong, but I'll put 5 to 1 that two years from now, the EE is in the top 10 hardest to find Intel processors ever (steppings included). Yes I know about the itanium and I remember the pentium pro... BUT:

1.) This chip is not designed to sell, the price is high, and at $1000, it's even higher than the price point at which they're selling the same chip as a Xeon (granted, there's a higher bus speed on the EE, but that's just a matter of reducing the multiplier.)

2.) This chip DOES NOT EXIST and was given a paper launch and shipped to major entusiast sites for benchmarking coveniently on the same day as the Athlon 64.

The EE is not meant to sell, it is meant to keep Athlon 64 chips from selling. Of course it's priced high, why take a loss on what you could sell as a Xeon when an imaginary chip could still accomplish the same goal?

Whoever had this idea deserves a HUGE raise, because it did keep most sites from saying TOO many good things about the Athlon 64 on it's launch day, but in reality the EE has been nothing more than a FUD campaign from the beginning.

I couldn't agree more and have been saying this since the reviews...

 

[BLHealthy4life]

Makes perfect sense. Never looked at it that way but I believe you are on to something.

 

[Soulkeeper]

yeah i think intel just figured it would be about the same price for people to buy a P4ee than an athlon fx and a motherboard

maybe they'll keep some of their current P4 fan base

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: snyderjw
This is only part of my issue with the EE, and intel in general of late. The point was not to sell processors. Please quote me on this and rub it in my face if i'm wrong, but I'll put 5 to 1 that two years from now, the EE is in the top 10 hardest to find Intel processors ever (steppings included). Yes I know about the itanium and I remember the pentium pro... BUT:

1.) This chip is not designed to sell, the price is high, and at $1000, it's even higher than the price point at which they're selling the same chip as a Xeon (granted, there's a higher bus speed on the EE, but that's just a matter of reducing the multiplier.)

2.) This chip DOES NOT EXIST and was given a paper launch and shipped to major entusiast sites for benchmarking coveniently on the same day as the Athlon 64.

The EE is not meant to sell, it is meant to keep Athlon 64 chips from selling. Of course it's priced high, why take a loss on what you could sell as a Xeon when an imaginary chip could still accomplish the same goal?

Whoever had this idea deserves a HUGE raise, because it did keep most sites from saying TOO many good things about the Athlon 64 on it's launch day, but in reality the EE has been nothing more than a FUD campaign from the beginning.

^ That's what I think is the biggest piss-off also. It's accepted practise to do this kind of BS in the hardware industry now, and that's sad. It's 10X worse in the video card market too with the nonsense they're pulling over there.

 

[VSOP]

I'm just hoping that in two months I can find one for around 300-400..

 

[MadRat]

The chips will be as rare as they come. Don't expect to ever see them for $400 or less. The P4EE's will be collector items for sure!

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Don't forget to add in a point about the Prescotts. I'd only expect to see P4EEs "widely" introduced if Prescott was seeing some major delays. But the fact that (from what I've heard at least) the P4EE is only going to be released in a 3.2GHz flavor, that it's only meant to squeeze out a maximum performance from the P4 line without any major work behind developing it. In reality it seems as though Intel is only trying to show off that they have a current flagship with so many more guns and shields in an attempt to scare off the enemy but have don't nothing to their fighters, the 2.4s and 2.6s... (as well as nothing to the 2.8 and 3.0). Had intel made a P4EE out of their current C line... perhaps a 2.4D-3.2D or 2.4EE-3.2EE or what ever, then maybe I'd think we'd see some of these chips actually find their way to the market...it seems that the P4EE @ 3.2GHz is really just bridging the gap between now and Prescott, nothing more.

 

[MrC4]

My bet is you will have an easier time buying a Voodoo 5 6000 than an P4EE!

 

[0roo0roo]

well you hear it all the time at stores from uninformed consumers... "i want intel, its better and faster" i'm sure some uninformed wealthy people will buy it, like over priced designer clothing

 

[touchmyichi]

Originally posted by: MrC4
My bet is you will have an easier time buying a Voodoo 5 6000 than an P4EE!

I doubt that. This will probably be included in many systems. It just won't be the most popular processor intel has made.

 

[Tbirdkid]

If I was amds ceo... i would pack up a turd and mail it to intels ceo. just so he has some idea of what I think of him for doing something like that. LOLZ

 

[stevennoland]

VSOP, I hope your right. I'm a big Intel fan. If history is right, the initial release of the EE @ 3.2 will follow with 2.4, 2.6, 2.8, and 3.0 Extreme Editions priced accordingly (guessing here). Why would Intel stop @ the 3.2EE? If the demand is there, then supply will follow.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: stevennoland
VSOP, I hope your right. I'm a big Intel fan. If history is right, the initial release of the EE @ 3.2 will follow with 2.4, 2.6, 2.8, and 3.0 Extreme Editions priced accordingly (guessing here). Why would Intel stop @ the 3.2EE? If the demand is there, then supply will follow.

Cost. The die is huge and Prescott is due in 1-2 Qtrs.

I doubt you will see anything other than 3.2Ghz P4-EE's.

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: stevennoland
VSOP, I hope your right. I'm a big Intel fan. If history is right, the initial release of the EE @ 3.2 will follow with 2.4, 2.6, 2.8, and 3.0 Extreme Editions priced accordingly (guessing here). Why would Intel stop @ the 3.2EE? If the demand is there, then supply will follow.

Cost. The die is huge and Prescott is due in 1-2 Qtrs.

I doubt you will see anything other than 3.2Ghz P4-EE's.

Exactly. There will be no other P4 EE's, and the P4 3.2 EE will most definately be impossibly hard to find. It requires TRIPLE the transistors of the regular 512K P4. This is not a cheap chip to make. Up until recently this exact chip in Xeon form (2MB L3) was going for >$2000 US!

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: bgeh

not competetivily priced at all against fx51

umm, isn't that what intel does all the time?
amd always prices them lower than intel's offerings until recently

Until recently?

They still were even compared to the 3.2C @ like $637...