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Yep, teachers should be carrying guns in school...

JulesMaximus

JulesMaximus

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/11/teacher-accidentally-shoots-herself_n_5805080.html

Teacher Accidentally Shoots Herself At Westbrook Elementary School In Utah

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Officials say a Utah elementary school teacher who was carrying a concealed firearm at school accidentally shot herself in the leg when the weapon discharged in a faculty bathroom.

Granite School District spokesman Ben Horsley says the gun went off shortly before class started Thursday at Westbrook Elementary School, in the Salt Lake City suburb of Taylorsville. He says the teacher was severely injured when the bullet entered and exited her leg, and she was rushed to the hospital.

No other faculty or students were in the area.

Officials are still investigating how the gun discharged.

Horsley wouldn't release details about the woman or what she taught, but he says she was carrying the weapon legally with a concealed firearm permit.

Utah law allows teachers and anyone else licensed to carry concealed weapons to wear a gun in a public school.
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Oh I didn't know Utah allowed that. Good, this will spread the word, deter dimwits from getting ideas in that state...
 
So the rule you want to apply here is "if someone does something stupid with something nobody else should be allowed to have that something"?

-KeithP
 
JEDI said:
who the heck puts the safety on while ccw?
might as well not chamber a round as well.
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as far as i know, guns only go off in the bathroom if you pull the trigger. Either carelessness if you try to unholster it while pee peeing or you drop it, and pull the trigger as you instinctively try to grab it before it hits the ground.

I was taught that if the gun drops, just let it drop and don't reach for it. Unless it's a piece of shit gun or crazy modded trigger, it shouldn't go off (even if it's a cocked 1911)

I try to be extremely careful if I drop my pants to take a dump, otherwise I just pee through the flap and never take my belt off. BEST case scenario, I have a locked container I can put my gun in before I go use the bathroom.
 
KeithP said:
So the rule you want to apply here is "if someone does something stupid with something nobody else should be allowed to have that something"?

-KeithP
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😵 Do you ever get tired of trying to twist something I post into something it isn't? Maybe I just thought it was ironic and wanted to see what other people thought of this story.

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JEDI said:
who the heck puts the safety on while ccw?
might as well not chamber a round as well.
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Depends on the gun but a cocked 1911 I would definitely have the safety on while carrying concealed. Only a fool would carry that gun cocked with the safety off.
 
JulesMaximus said:
😵 Do you ever get tired of trying to twist something I post into something it isn't? Maybe I just thought it was ironic and wanted to see what other people thought of this story.
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I just had an epiphany.

Standardized tests for teachers wishing to pack heat.

"No Gun Toting Teacher Left Behind".

How could that possibly *not* work?
 
JEDI said:
who the heck puts the safety on while ccw?
might as well not chamber a round as well.
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I would assume everyone would. As I understand it you should always have the safety on until the time comes for you to use it. Clicking off the safety as you draw should be second nature to anyone who carries IMO.
 
SlitheryDee said:
I would assume everyone would. As I understand it you should always have the safety on until the time comes for you to use it. Clicking off the safety as you draw should be second nature to anyone who carries IMO.
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Typical CC guns have little bullshit 'chiclet' safeties that were only put there because some shitty state required them to. They are not the kind of thing you should plan on manipulating in that kind of situation.

Very few guns can go off without the trigger being pulled. A hammer on a worn sear could drop, but unless there's no firing pin block, nothing is gonna happen. No FPB is rare; I only have one gun that lacks one. Slide-mounted safety where the firing pin is retracted with the safety on. It's not a carry gun.

The safest guns are those that will have a double action first shot (or are just DAO). Safety not required. Hell, look at a company like Sig- totally built around safetyless guns. And you never hear anything about how 'dangerous' they are- because it works. Decocked DA/SA guns do not go off on 'accident.'
 
JulesMaximus said:
😵 Do you ever get tired of trying to twist something I post into something it isn't? Maybe I just thought it was ironic and wanted to see what other people thought of this story.

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Well it looked like that's what you meant, judging by the thread title. Seems a little disingenuous to otherwise.
 
KeithP said:
So the rule you want to apply here is "if someone does something stupid with something nobody else should be allowed to have that something"?

-KeithP
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How do you think 99% of laws get made in this country. One person does something stupid so politicians think they need to save everyone else.
 
phucheneh said:
Typical CC guns have little bullshit 'chiclet' safeties that were only put there because some shitty state required them to. They are not the kind of thing you should plan on manipulating in that kind of situation.

Very few guns can go off without the trigger being pulled. A hammer on a worn sear could drop, but unless there's no firing pin block, nothing is gonna happen. No FPB is rare; I only have one gun that lacks one. Slide-mounted safety where the firing pin is retracted with the safety on. It's not a carry gun.

The safest guns are those that will have a double action first shot (or are just DAO). Safety not required. Hell, look at a company like Sig- totally built around safetyless guns. And you never hear anything about how 'dangerous' they are- because it works. Decocked DA/SA guns do not go off on 'accident.'
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And that is fine for guns that are DAO and for revolvers but not for guns like the 1911. No way would I carry one cocked with the safety off.
 
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