Yep, Cheney lied on Meet the Press, even Bush says so!

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Gaard

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Do any of the other flag icon folk in this thread question the claims of Morbius? I heard someone say something about partisan screeching earlier; does ignoring what other prowar folk claim while questioning the claims made by antiwar people qualify as being partisan?

 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Gaard
Do any of the other flag icon folk in this thread question the claims of Morbius? I heard someone say something about partisan screeching earlier; does ignoring what other prowar folk claim while questioning the claims made by antiwar people qualify as being partisan?

Nah, couldn't be. You are obviously a partisan! ;) :)
 

DealMonkey

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Nope. "Partisan screeching" is a distinctly right-wing conservative term. I'm sure Rush Limbaugh or some dittohead moron tells 'em to say it. Most importantly, they'd never use it against one of their own.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Nope. "Partisan screeching" is a distinctly right-wing conservative term. I'm sure Rush Limbaugh or some dittohead moron tells 'em to say it. Most importantly, they'd never use it against one of their own.

Or we just ignore it because you guys seem to knock yourselves over trying to refute things and dream up new ways of spinning statements;)

CkG
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Gaard
Do any of the other flag icon folk in this thread question the claims of Morbius? I heard someone say something about partisan screeching earlier; does ignoring what other prowar folk claim while questioning the claims made by antiwar people qualify as being partisan?

I'd just like the original thread to be "proven" first before I start questioning the next one in line.

Besides, saying "I have proof that Iraq lied" is less controversial to me than "I have proof the Vice President of the US" lied. So honestly, I don't really care about Morbius's post. It was off topic.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Nope. "Partisan screeching" is a distinctly right-wing conservative term. I'm sure Rush Limbaugh or some dittohead moron tells 'em to say it. Most importantly, they'd never use it against one of their own.

What a fine example of partisan screeching! Congrats DealMonkey for making my point crystal clear!

"The other side always does this! The other side would never do that! They don't think for themselves"
 

Gaard

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alchemize - I don't care about Morbius's claims.
Galt - I don't care if they ever find WMDs.
Nitemare (and others) - I don't care what reasons Bush gave.

 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Nope. "Partisan screeching" is a distinctly right-wing conservative term. I'm sure Rush Limbaugh or some dittohead moron tells 'em to say it. Most importantly, they'd never use it against one of their own.

What a fine example of partisan screeching! Congrats DealMonkey for making my point crystal clear!

"The other side always does this! The other side would never do that! They don't think for themselves"

No problem, I'm here to help. :p

 

ElFenix

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bush is a liar. cheney is a liar. i really don't have a problem with it.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: alchemize
"We've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with September the 11th." Bush

Direct from the transcript:
MR. RUSSERT: But is there a connection?
VICE PRES. CHENEY: We don?t know.

Maybe clear to someone wearing the new 2003 version of Bush-hating tinted sunglasses (I call em Bush-blinders).

Still waiting.
 

BOBDN

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: alchemize
"We've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with September the 11th." Bush

Direct from the transcript:
MR. RUSSERT: But is there a connection?
VICE PRES. CHENEY: We don?t know.

Maybe clear to someone wearing the new 2003 version of Bush-hating tinted sunglasses (I call em Bush-blinders).

Still waiting.

And still selectively quoting the liar.

Quote the rest of his statement.

"Now, is there a connection between the Iraqi government and the original World Trade Center bombing in ?93? We know, as I say, that one of the perpetrators of that act did, in fact, receive support from the Iraqi government after the fact. With respect to 9/11, of course, we?ve had the story that?s been public out there. The Czechs alleged that Mohamed Atta, the lead attacker, met in Prague with a senior Iraqi intelligence official five months before the attack, but we?ve never been able to develop anymore of that yet either in terms of confirming it or discrediting it. We just don?t know."

Lies. All disproved. But Cheney still spouts them and you people still say he isn't lying.

Lying for the liar.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: BOBDN
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: alchemize
"We've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with September the 11th." Bush

Direct from the transcript:
MR. RUSSERT: But is there a connection?
VICE PRES. CHENEY: We don?t know.

Maybe clear to someone wearing the new 2003 version of Bush-hating tinted sunglasses (I call em Bush-blinders).

Still waiting.

And still selectively quoting the liar.

Quote the rest of his statement.

"Now, is there a connection between the Iraqi government and the original World Trade Center bombing in ?93? We know, as I say, that one of the perpetrators of that act did, in fact, receive support from the Iraqi government after the fact. With respect to 9/11, of course, we?ve had the story that?s been public out there. The Czechs alleged that Mohamed Atta, the lead attacker, met in Prague with a senior Iraqi intelligence official five months before the attack, but we?ve never been able to develop anymore of that yet either in terms of confirming it or discrediting it. We just don?t know."

Lies. All disproved. But Cheney still spouts them and you people still say he isn't lying.

Lying for the liar.


Why do you keep quoting and selectively ignoring this: but we?ve never been able to develop anymore of that yet either in terms of confirming it or discrediting it. We just don?t know.
 

Morbius

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Actually, there is plenty of proof for all three. You probably choose to ignore it, disbelieve it, or discount it - that doesn't change its existence and relevance.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Morbius
Actually, there is plenty of proof for all three. You probably choose to ignore it, disbelieve it, or discount it - that doesn't change its existence and relevance.
And you and BOBDN probably chose not to post it and prove it. Which doesn't change it's irrelevance or non-existance. Fair enough, we're at a mexican standoff.

Let me help you along. We're looking for validation of the thread topic. "Cheney lied on Meet the Press, even Bush says so".

Bush says: "We've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with September the 11th."
So a lie would be (if you assume Bush's statement to be the standard against what you judge the logic):
Cheney: "We've found oodles and oodles of evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with September the 11th."
heck even "We've found some evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with September the 11th." in his statement on Meet the Press.

So if anything, the only lie stated so far has been:
"Yep, Cheney lied on Meet the Press, even Bush says so". and I've proved it with my quotes from both sides.



 

Morbius

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Originally posted by: Gaard
alchemize - I don't care about Morbius's claims.
Galt - I don't care if they ever find WMDs.
Nitemare (and others) - I don't care what reasons Bush gave.

To summarize: you just don't care !
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: Morbius
Originally posted by: Gaard
alchemize - I don't care about Morbius's claims.
Galt - I don't care if they ever find WMDs.
Nitemare (and others) - I don't care what reasons Bush gave.

To summarize: you just don't care !

To summarize: War good. Bombs are cool. People dying is just Dawinism in practice. They can barely contain the blood-lust welling up in their throats. They're practically begging for more shock 'n awe. More tactical nukes. More republicans landing on the flight deck grabbing their package and declaring the world black or white. Huzzah! We don't need no stinkin' reasons...
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Morbius
Originally posted by: Gaard
alchemize - I don't care about Morbius's claims.
Galt - I don't care if they ever find WMDs.
Nitemare (and others) - I don't care what reasons Bush gave.

To summarize: you just don't care !

To summarize: You can't prove it was a lie, so you go off on ranting tangents.