Orignal Earl
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Did my typing come off as worried? I was trying to come off as interested.
Incor is an interesting character to me.
Maybe he won't read it the same way as you did.
Did my typing come off as worried? I was trying to come off as interested.
Incor is an interesting character to me.
Maybe he won't read it the same way as you did.
CrackRabbit
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Considering his posts came from a Canadian IP, and he had not stated his nationality, I thought it was fairly safe to assume he was Canadian.
Turns out I was "wrong".
None of that exactly states where our foremost 'Constitutional Scholar' is from and if he is in Canada legally, or why he is there.
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Fanatical Meat
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um, no. actually it's much more like saying that if you fly a *nazi flag,* there's a very good chance that you are anti-semitic. the confederate flag, despite the sustained protestations to the contrary that one hears in [e.g.] south carolina, is historically an infamous symbol of racism and the slavery of black people. if you don't think it's profoundly offensive to the descendants of those antebellum slaves, try asking one of them about it -- and *really listen* when they answer you.
moreover, it's also the symbol of the CONFEDERATE STATES OF AMERICA. the attempt to set up a nation *in secession from* the USA. that's why there was a civil war. the formation of the 'confederate states of america' was an act of aggression against the USA. that makes it, by definition, anti-american [insofar as 'american' = USA as a nation and as a political ideal].
for these two reasons, to fly the confederate flag in 2013 is a pretty sketchy thing to do. regardless of what a person's washington redskins apparel may mean to him/her, the flying of the confederate flag is an overtly political act. and people who fly it know that, and they typically do so in that spirit. and you yourself must realize this perfectly well.
Here's the real story,and how NBC edited the real story.Notice all the black veterans,right there with the guy with the Confederate flag.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iQubNVeGPNc
I'm starting to feel publishing falsities as news should be prosecuted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iQubNVeGPNc
I'm starting to feel publishing falsities as news should be prosecuted.
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News organizations are under no legal obligation to tell the truth. There was actually a court case against Fox News in that respect, and Fox News won.
There has been a fairly consistent campaign in America to whitewash what the Confederate flag and the Confederacy stood for, and I'm not surprised that quite a few people don't understand it.
As I think I said in the beginning it is entirely possible that the person waving the Confederate flag is not racist, but that makes it a pretty safe bet that they are ignorant.
Jaskalas
Lifer
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There has been a fairly consistent campaign in America to demonize secession. Yet with our firm divisions there will be no stopping it next time, Confederate flag or not.
This is about freedom, liberty, and "That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government". You conflate us dissolving the Union with the reason behind it dissolving, but that attack on our right of secession will only carry you so far. It isn't slavery we hold onto, it is freedom.
Look to the Southwest, when they balkanize that will be our opportunity as well.
How's socialism working in NY? I might go buy a 44-oz Slurpee just because I can today.
Probably not,but at least I have the choice to.How's socialism working in NY? I might go buy a 44-oz Slurpee just because I can today.
I think this post makes it pretty clear that you don't know what socialism is.
While I could go buy a 44-oz Slurpee today if I chose to do so, I can't imagine any situation under which I would want that. I hope you enjoy yours!
In case you were wondering, I also define freedom by the size of my drink containers at 7-11.
Trying to bring the question of freedom into a discussion about the Confederate flag is pretty hilarious though. I guess the right to enslave other people is a freedom of sorts.
Hey, good luck with that!
I actually see no particular problem with letting the South secede again. If they genuinely wish to live under a radically different system of government than the northeast and the west, I welcome them to it. I think they will be singing a different tune after the wealth transfers from the northeast and west coast states dry up, but that's their choice.
The main problem with that however is that our country isn't really divided that way. It is much more of an urban/rural divide than a red state/blue state divide. Cutting up a country that way wouldn't really work.
Must be your Mayor didn't get his way
NY is a mess.2 forms of welfare,more people living off the system than can support it,EPA squeezing the businesses,State AND Federal Income tax (to support the welfare),sue-happy people everywhere,filth,crime,cold,rude people;Who wouldn't want to live there? LOL NY IS a Socialist state.
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Must be your Mayor didn't get his way
NY is a mess.2 forms of welfare,more people living off the system than can support it,EPA squeezing the businesses,State AND Federal Income tax (to support the welfare),sue-happy people everywhere,filth,crime,cold,rude people;Who wouldn't want to live there? LOL
lol. The reason why NYC has some of the highest real estate prices in the country is due to the overwhelming excess demand for living here as compared to the supply of housing available, despite the fact that NYC is already the most densely populated area in the US. So apparently lots and lots of people want to live here. And god, the tourists. The city is simply bursting with people who want to visit as well.
If the city isn't for you, that's fine! It certainly isn't for everyone, but you're missing out.
I have no idea what NYC has to do with the fact that the Confederate flag is a symbol of race based oppression, however.
I think you missed the point about the Confederate flag.That was one Marine out of hundreds (black and white)that participated that day.The slanted media focused on only him (convenient) and also bald-faced lied when they said the police weren't getting paid.Now I don't know about you,but once someone lies to me;I don't take them at their word ever,ever again.
You're surprised that the media focused on sensational actions as opposed to more pedestrian ones? How long have you owned a television for? Regardless, it sounds like you buy into the right wing myth about being persecuted by the media. Sad.
I can't watch a youtube video here as I don't have sound, but capitol (federal) police were not being paid during the shutdown.
Hey..I think the horde of veterans carrying barricades to deposit them @ the White House looks more sensational than Joe Redneck from Texas waving a flag.It's not like the event wasn't sensational in and of itself.The leftist spin that was put on it is bad.I'm not sure of the age demographic here,but I still remember real reporting.
You actually think that a picture of veterans carrying barricades will get more page views than a guy protesting by waving a 150 year old symbol of racial oppression in front of the first black president's house?
Good thing you aren't working in the media.
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