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"Yeah, we rocked the vote all right. Those little bastards betrayed us again."

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11/4/04
Election with Hunter
By Troy Hooper/Aspen Daily News Staff Writer

WOODY CREEK ? It was Bailey's Irish Cream and Royal Salute Scotch Whiskey at the Thompson household on Election Night. A bottle of Cristal intended for a John Kerry victory remained uncorked, chilling on ice in a backroom.

A hungry smell of anticipation hung in the kitchen at Owl Farm, which morphed into a makeshift Democratic headquarters as Hunter S. Thompson hunkered down with a small group of friends and manned what seemed like a global switchboard as calls came pouring in from some of the biggest names in modern American lore.

Even a few pollsters dialed up The Good Doctor in search of the most up-to-minute score. Whether they were calling to ascertain Thompson's classified political knowledge or gauge his gambler's instinct was unclear. But without question, his phone was chiming more often than the Liberty Bell.

"I don't mean to pop the bad news on you Bubba but John Kerry is getting beat just like George McGovern did in 1972 ? or worse," Thompson proclaimed to his nephew well before the news networks gave any hint that Bush Nation was marching toward a second term. "The tide turned so quickly it was difficult to breathe."

Actor Sean Penn, presidential historian Douglas Brinkley, Kerry press secretary David Wade and others checked in with Thompson who sat on a chair inhaling cigarettes and stiff drinks in between bites of breakfast, which wasn't served to the late-awakening writer until after the sun went down.

Asked for a candid assessment of the election, Thompson put it plainly to Penn.

"I've got the worst possible news. Colorado has gone to hell like all the other states," Thompson said into the speakerphone. "They must have all voted the same way they prayed."

The way Thompson's neighbors voted was far removed from the national outcome. Bush mustered just 2,750 of Pitkin County's electorate while Kerry received 6,275.

Nationally, Bush garnered the highest total number of votes ever, winning 51 percent of the record voter turnout, which preliminary estimates have put at roughly 117 million. He is the first president to win a majority of the vote since 1988 when his father beat another Democrat from Massachusetts: Michael Dukakis.

"The news is getting logarithmically more horrible," Thompson told another caller as the night wore on. "They're all committing suicide up in Boston."

Thompson has always had a keen eye for politics. His best-known work on the subject is "Fear and Loathing: On the Campaign Trail '72" ? an up-close study of South Dakota Senator George McGovern's effort to unseat President Richard Nixon.

Over the weekend, McGovern and Thompson discussed the election: The two old friends suggested Bush might be more dangerous than Nixon. Kerry would make a fine president, they both agreed, as they noted the similarities between the two eras.

This year's Democratic presidential candidate must have seen some similarities between now and then, too.

When Kerry visited Aspen last June for a fund-raiser, he brought three hardcover copies of "Fear and Loathing: On the Campaign Trail '72" to have them autographed. Thompson obliged and struck a friendship with Kerry, serving as his unofficial Aspen tour guide, meeting the candidate on a rain-soaked tarmac at Sardy Field and riding in a Secret Service procession up Red Mountain, showing Kerry the sights and conferring with him on national affairs.

Now, five months later, Kerry has met the same fate as McGovern.

"I feel like somebody's died," Thompson lamented as the sun was preparing to rise early Wednesday morning. "I'm just not sure who it was."

He deemed the election "another failure of the youth vote."

"Yeah, we rocked the vote all right. Those little bastards betrayed us again."

But despite his disappointment, Thompson remained remarkably upbeat.

"Their army is how much bigger than mine? Three percent? Well shucks, Bubba. Now is the time to establish a network and an attitude," he said. "You make friends in moments of defeat. People in defeat tend to bond because they need each other. We can't take the attitude that it's over and we give up. We're still here."

Thompson added: "I'm proud to have known John Kerry."
 
"Those little bastards betrayed us again"

ROFL! 😀 It's true, though. They were all too busy pWNiNG the nOOB5 on counter strike. Youth really is wasted on the young.
 
Originally posted by: jjzelinski
"Those little bastards betrayed us again"

ROFL! 😀 It's true, though. They were all too busy pWNiNG the nOOB5 on counter strike. Youth really is wasted on the young.

Yeah, I'm disappointed in my generation and our lack of turnout (yet AGAIN). I guess it's true of all generations when they were our age though. I was just hoping the importance of this election would make a big difference, guess not.
 
This is the second youth-bash and the latest in-your-face post by the OP.

THE YOUTH DID COME OUT. Get it through your heads. Many more voted than in 2000. The only reason it didn't make a difference were more religious nuts came out too.
 
Sorry can't hang with you on this one Infohawk, this was our chance to put the brakes on this bullet train to hell and we pissed it away.
 
Nixon's win over McGovern in '72 was a landslide, one of the biggest even (Nixon won 60% of the popular and the electoral 520-17). This Tuesday's election was the 6th closest in US History and, with the exception of 2000 (the 4th closest), was the closest since 1916 (the 5th closest).
The closest, in order, are 1800 (a tie in the electorals led to a decision by the House), 1824 (the loser was actually appointed by the House because a majority of the electorals was not recieved by any candidate), 1876 (similar to 1824), 2000, 1916, and 2004. While 1960 was extremely close in the popular vote, Kennedy won the electorals by a large spread.
Anyone who thinks this election was a landslide was not paying attention.

But yeah, Thompson is right about one thing. If the Dems want to win, they need to stop depending on the youth vote. The Democratic Senator from my state, Ron Wyden, champions himself as a "defender of the elderly" and he just won re-election to his 3rd 6-year term in a landslide.
 
Originally posted by: Infohawk
This is the second youth-bash and the latest in-your-face post by the OP.

THE YOUTH DID COME OUT. Get it through your heads. Many more voted than in 2000. The only reason it didn't make a difference were more religious nuts came out too.


Um, I just posted a Hunter S. Thompson rant, just because I don't agree with him politically doesn't mean I don't enjoy his stuff, I've actually read his books and taken many of the same drugs, in the same quantities. (PSA, don't do drugs, I had no judgment in my youth)

And if you look @ the demographics of the voters Infohawk, the % of younger voters stayed virtually the same as in previous elections.

Higher turnout all around, %'s stayed the same.
 
Someone needs to tell us why these 20 somethings won't vote.

Have we raised another generation of narcissistic and indolent blood suckers?

Did we give them too much? Or, have we distracted them too much?

-Robert
 
I don't think there's any profound decision that was made by the twenty-somethings, I think it was just a combination of laziness, distraction, and a hint of apathy despite the cricialness of this election that I garauntee most of them realized.
 
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
and since they are little bastards...perhaps they will vote for bush next time 😉
As long as they don't get involved in deviant practices like Evangelical Christianity.
 
I think the reason they don't vote is because of you, the older generation. They look at what's going on in the world and at home, and say to themselves "How can people be so ignorant and hateful". Voter apathy. There's more to life than just politics.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
and since they are little bastards...perhaps they will vote for bush next time 😉
As long as they don't get involved in deviant practices like Evangelical Christianity.

so tell me how you really feel about Jesus?
 
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
and since they are little bastards...perhaps they will vote for bush next time 😉
As long as they don't get involved in deviant practices like Evangelical Christianity.

so tell me how you really feel about Jesus?
Jesus is fine, it's those who practice deviant behavior in his name that bother me.
 
Originally posted by: chess9
Someone needs to tell us why these 20 somethings won't vote.

Have we raised another generation of narcissistic and indolent blood suckers?

Did we give them too much? Or, have we distracted them too much?

-Robert

I didn't vote because I don't live in swing state.
 
ROFLMAO damn that chump is wrong.

What beat the Democrats was "God, Guns, and Gay."

Most Americans believe in God the more liberal Christian bashing Democrats turned them off.

Most Americans believe in the right to keep and bear arms, once again the more liberal anti-gun Democrats turned them off.

Most Americans believe that marriage is between a man and a women, and the more liberal pro-gay marriage democrats turned them off again.

Bashing the "youth vote" wont help you guys, you need to solve you real problems.

That being said the "youth" was the only age group that the majority voted for Kerry, 54% for.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20.../US/P/00/epolls.0.html
 
Originally posted by: OFFascist
ROFLMAO damn that chump is wrong.

What beat the Democrats was "God, Guns, and Gay."

Most Americans believe in God the more liberal Christian bashing Democrats turned them off.

Most Americans believe in the right to keep and bear arms, once again the more liberal anti-gun Democrats turned them off.

Most Americans believe that marriage is between a man and a women, and the more liberal pro-gay marriage democrats turned them off again.

Bashing the "youth vote" wont help you guys, you need to solve you real problems.

That being said the "youth" was the only age group that the majority voted for Kerry, 54% for.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20.../US/P/00/epolls.0.html


Yep, they were a huge voting block.

I remember more than one election headed out to vote & got stoned instead😉
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
and since they are little bastards...perhaps they will vote for bush next time 😉
As long as they don't get involved in deviant practices like Evangelical Christianity.

so tell me how you really feel about Jesus?
Jesus is fine, it's those who practice deviant behavior in his name that bother me.
the deviant practice threatening the nation is holding a sosciopathic mind set that says that morality only comes form within your own philosophy and that society has no right to enforce it's own views or right and wrong on those that disagree.
 
Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
and since they are little bastards...perhaps they will vote for bush next time 😉
As long as they don't get involved in deviant practices like Evangelical Christianity.

so tell me how you really feel about Jesus?
Jesus is fine, it's those who practice deviant behavior in his name that bother me.

the deviant mental disorder is the sociopathic mindset that says that morality only coms form within your own philosphy and society has no right to enforce it's own views
What if society is dominated by Evangelical Deviants like you? Is it Deviant to reject your Deviant views?
 
Originally posted by: OFFascist
ROFLMAO damn that chump is wrong.

What beat the Democrats was "God, Guns, and Gay."

Most Americans believe in God the more liberal Christian bashing Democrats turned them off.

Most Americans believe in the right to keep and bear arms, once again the more liberal anti-gun Democrats turned them off.

Most Americans believe that marriage is between a man and a women, and the more liberal pro-gay marriage democrats turned them off again.

Bashing the "youth vote" wont help you guys, you need to solve you real problems.

That being said the "youth" was the only age group that the majority voted for Kerry, 54% for.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20.../US/P/00/epolls.0.html

Actually I bash my generation because they know better, whereas I'm more then willing to remain politically spepparated from people like you.
 
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