Yeah, so I went through Phoenix today...

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CraKaJaX

Lifer
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I live in a decent area - I have 1825sqft, 3br 2ba on .23 acres with a diving pool and 2 car garage, remodeled in 2011. I paid $140k in early 2013.

Fuck sake. I need to move to said decent area. $140k -might- get you a mailbox here.
 

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Housing in Phoenix was/is really bizzare. It went through one of the strangest boom/bust cycles I've seen in a market. Pricing was decent, then exploded. Collapsed. Investors came crawling back and propped it upgain. Then it fell apart some more. Generally speaking though, it is very reasonably priced for housing. Taxes are also low. Your dollar goes a long way there.
 

jlee

Lifer
Sep 12, 2001
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Housing in Phoenix was/is really bizzare. It went through one of the strangest boom/bust cycles I've seen in a market. Pricing was decent, then exploded. Collapsed. Investors came crawling back and propped it upgain. Then it fell apart some more. Generally speaking though, it is very reasonably priced for housing. Taxes are also low. Your dollar goes a long way there.

Yup. I came from NH, where you could pay $3-6k/yr for property taxes. Mine are about $700/yr.
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Yup. I came from NH, where you could pay $3-6k/yr for property taxes. Mine are about $700/yr.

Ehh, as much as I like to badmouth AZ, I could actually see myself being quite happy/content in Flagstaff, safe from the heat.
 

feralkid

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Jan 28, 2002
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Did you just snap judge an entire metropolitan area based on a random encounter with three rude (ok, and one armed) teenagers?

But yes, the main thought that I have when I'm out there is why the hell did whoever stopped and built a city in that place decide to stop and build a goddamn city in that place? It was not that much further to California.

Well there's the reason; they figured it's better to stop here, any further and they risk being in California.

:p
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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I could actually see myself being quite happy/content in Flagstaff, safe from the heat.

wat the fuck weather is this. it was so promising until...

Flagstaff has a rather dry semi-continental climate (Köppen Dsb/Csb).[22] Flagstaff has five distinct seasons: a cold and snowy winter, with extended dry periods punctuated with deep snows about once every 3-4 weeks; a dry and windy spring with occasional snows; a very dry and hot early summer from May to early July; a wet and humid monsoon season from July to early September; and a dry and pleasant fall which lasts until the first snows in November.

The combination of high elevation and low humidity provide mild weather conditions throughout most of the year. The predominantly clear air and high elevation radiates daytime heating effectively resulting in overnight temperatures generally much lower than the daytime temperature. This means a 55 degree day in January can drop to 15 at night. Winter nights in fact can be very cold, with temperatures sometimes dropping far below zero.[23]

Winter weather patterns in Flagstaff are cyclonic and frontal in nature, originating in the eastern Pacific Ocean. These deliver periodic, widespread snowfall followed by extended periods of fair weather. The area's generally stable weather pattern is broken by brief, but often intense, afternoon downpours and dramatic thunderstorms common during the monsoon of July and August. Summer temperatures are moderate and high temperatures average around 82 °F (27.8 °C).[8] Extreme temperatures range from −30 °F (−34 °C) on January 22, 1937, and up to 97 °F (36 °C) on July 5, 1973, respectively.[24] The weather in Flagstaff is generally sunny. In fact Flagstaff gets more sunshine than snow cities such as New York City, Chicago, Boston and Denver. Flagstaff is only the only city in Arizona to have not reported temperatures of 100 °F (38 °C) or higher.[24]

The annual snowfall averages 100.3 inches (255 cm), placing Flagstaff among the snowiest incorporated cities in the United States.[25] Overall, the city features an average of 276 days without measurable precipitation each year. Despite snow storms often being spread weeks apart, snow often covers the ground for weeks after major winter storms due to the low night temperatures refreezing the snowpack, even when daytime temperatures are above freezing. However, due to the infrequent and scattered nature of the snowstorms, persistent snow pack into spring is rare.[8] One notable exception occurred during the severe winter of 1915–16, when successive Pacific storms buried the city under over 70 inches (178 cm) of snow, and some residents were snowbound in their homes for several days
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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wat the fuck weather is this. it was so promising until...

Yes, sounds pretty nice except for 80+ degrees in summer is too hot.

I would love getting more snow, we average like 3-4 feet only of snow annually.. but 100 inches would be awesome. My snow fort would be king size!